Althemia Posted December 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 Though some of the Artifacts destroy Spells/Traps.Who the hell cares? You literally just threw your hand onto the board and, in the case of the Bureido, drew cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 People are also not realizing the synergy with MalCat, since it wipes out their options beforehand.. What's this MalCat of which you speak? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted December 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 What's this MalCat of which you speak?Malevolent Catastrophe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 >Normal Summon Pachi >your opponent now has 4 set shits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 >Normal Summon Pachi>your opponent now has 4 set shitsNot sure how that is relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 Not sure how that is relevant. To the archetype that focuses on summoning itself after sitting idly in your backrow? I was speaking about the archetype this thread is about, it's at least somewhat relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 >Normal Summon Pachi>your opponent now has 4 set shitsWhat's Pachi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted December 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 What's Pachi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 What's Pachi? Oh yeah...But who honestly plays that card nowadays, anyways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 To the archetype that focuses on summoning itself after sitting idly in your backrow? I was speaking about the archetype this thread is about, it's at least somewhat relevant.Every Special Summoning deck is bad because Vanity Emptyness is a thing.Every Normal Summon-based deck is bad because Warning is a thing.Every Spell-based deck is bad because Fragrance is a thing.Every Trap-based deck is bad because Jinzo is a thing.Every deck that uses monster effects is bad because Skill Drain is a thing.etcetcPachi is irrelevant.And if you wanted to be cool, you would use Dark Simorgh, which completely outright kills everything they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 Pachi is irrelevant. And if you wanted to be cool, you would use Dark Simorgh, which completely outright kills everything they have. Dark Simorgh is borderline unusable. Pachi is a powerful level 4 that can be sided into numerous decks and mained into quite a few. Although the deck could start teching soul takers or something to counteract this if it becomes prevalent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted December 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 Oh yeah...But who honestly plays that card nowadays, anyways?Dragons have been playing it for the last 2 formats. Where have you been? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 Shining Angel does it better. He's not wrong though. This allows the Deck to go into Level 8s, and Scrap Dragon turns these into a free pop + Special Summon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 Every Special Summoning deck is bad because Vanity Emptyness is a thing.Every Normal Summon-based deck is bad because Warning is a thing. Every Spell-based deck is bad because Fragrance is a thing. Every Trap-based deck is bad because Jinzo is a thing. Every deck that uses monster effects is bad because Skill Drain is a thing. etc etc Pachi is irrelevant. And if you wanted to be cool, you would use Dark Simorgh, which completely outright kills everything they have. Now with THAT, you're just arguing for argument's sake. Well, as much as you like to defend your point... Did I ever call the deck back? Is mentioning a counter to a deck saying it's bad? No I think that's you overreacting. Dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 Now with THAT, you're just arguing for argument's sake. Well, as much as you like to defend your point... Did I ever call the deck back? Is mentioning a counter to a deck saying it's bad? No I think that's you overreacting. Dunno. He's making a point because a lot of people try and make these sorts of arguments. Even though, as many have pointed out, it's really your fault if you know a deck has a serious weakness and you do nothing about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguespreader Zombie Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Every Special Summoning deck is bad because Vanity Emptyness is a thing. Every Normal Summon-based deck is bad because Warning is a thing. Every Spell-based deck is bad because Fragrance is a thing. Every Trap-based deck is bad because Jinzo is a thing. Every deck that uses monster effects is bad because Skill Drain is a thing. etc etc Pachi is irrelevant. And if you wanted to be cool, you would use Dark Simorgh, which completely outright kills everything they have. there is a /huge/ difference between not being able to drop Bora from your hand for a turn to having 4 pretty much useless s/t zones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 there is a /huge/ difference between not being able to drop Bora from your hand for a turn to having 4 pretty much useless s/t zones This deck can run 6 MST and Double Cyclone, I think it can deal with Emptiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguespreader Zombie Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 This deck can run 6 MST and Double Cyclone, I think it can deal with Emptiness. the card in question is Fossil Dyna, though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 the card in question is Fossil Dyna, though That's part of the reason to run Chaos-End Master, since he can beat over Dyna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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