RjCardMaker Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 2 level 12 monsters This card's Summon Cannot be Negated You can also Xyz Summon this card by using one "Five Headed dragon" you control as the XYZ material. When this card is summoned, target any number of your banished Dragon-Type monsters, and atach them to this card as XYZ material. If this card would be removed from he field, you can Detach 2 XYZ materials from this card instead, when you do it gains 100 ATK. Now with Alternate Card Art, take your pick Now then... what makes this card balanced? well it's hard to summon without the help of a Dragon's Mirror. It is suceptable to theft, getting tributed (Volcanic Queen, Lava Golem), and can get hard by the new staple Numer 101. of course what effects could i remove to make this thing less broken, or is it fine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Don't worry, it's fine. ...... Oops, sorry, scratch that. I didn't notice the last bit. Obviously the card's first problems is summoning it, as Future Fusion is now banned, F.G.D is no longer a viable fusion for any Dragon deck. It's now a winmoar card, something you summon just so you can say you summoned it. Sure, you can use Dragon's Mirror to ease the summon (a bit), but setting up the summon for FGD is very difficult and complicated. Now comes the second question: what's the point? By the time you summon FGD, your opponent Is Already Dead, so this is just overkill that allows your opponent to win. Which is some backwards-ass logic. The card has (at least) 5 time removal immunity, but as you mentioned, it's susceptible to theft. Which means that Gustos and their Creature Swap can win what is normally an unwinnable battle. Creating something to top what it's supporting often makes it obsolete, such is the case with Dragon Master Knight and Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon. It's simply unnecessary. F.G.D is a game winner in it's own, and it doesn't need a risky winmoar version of it. If you want to make F.G.D support, how about something that eases it's summon? Or something that sets up the summon without Dragon's Mirror? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Noel- Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 also you can't make a Divine Attribute or Divine-Beast Type monster. this should be in Any Other Cards if u really want that Attribute and Type Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RjCardMaker Posted January 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Don't worry, it's fine. ...... Oops, sorry, scratch that. I didn't notice the last bit. Obviously the card's first problems is summoning it, as Future Fusion is now banned, F.G.D is no longer a viable fusion for any Dragon deck. It's now a winmoar card, something you summon just so you can say you summoned it. Sure, you can use Dragon's Mirror to ease the summon (a bit), but setting up the summon for FGD is very difficult and complicated. Now comes the second question: what's the point? By the time you summon FGD, your opponent Is Already Dead, so this is just overkill that allows your opponent to win. Which is some backwards-ass logic. The card has (at least) 5 time removal immunity, but as you mentioned, it's susceptible to theft. Which means that Gustos and their Creature Swap can win what is normally an unwinnable battle. Creating something to top what it's supporting often makes it obsolete, such is the case with Dragon Master Knight and Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon. It's simply unnecessary. F.G.D is a game winner in it's own, and it doesn't need a risky winmoar version of it. If you want to make F.G.D support, how about something that eases it's summon? Or something that sets up the summon without Dragon's Mirror? Well here is the thing, as a dragon user, i find myself often in desperate situations where afforementioned dragon is my only way out.. this gets greeted with a mirror force. as F.G.D Isnt really anything related to broken (and extremely easy to remove to boot). it;s main purpose would be to spark an interest in using the thing again, Doesn't konami want to make more money? why not? it has 5 lives and can be used against you. Does the card have a purpose? not really, but it'd be fun to see nonetheless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 If F.G.D was easier to summon, maybe. F.G.D is difficult to pull out in a consistent fashion in high-level plays. You say you want to spark interest in F.G.D, but making what is essentially a win-or-lose card isn't a way to use it. Like I said, you're better off making cards that make summoning it easier. Plus, if you are pulling out something as big as F.G.D, shouldn't you be removing backrow first before attacking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RjCardMaker Posted January 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 If F.G.D was easier to summon, maybe. F.G.D is difficult to pull out in a consistent fashion in high-level plays. You say you want to spark interest in F.G.D, but making what is essentially a win-or-lose card isn't a way to use it. Like I said, you're better off making cards that make summoning it easier. Plus, if you are pulling out something as big as F.G.D, shouldn't you be removing backrow first before attacking? like i said, sometimes its either dragon's mirror or die.... that being said, its win or lose, but its hard as shit to get over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Gustos and Creature Swap say hi. I didn't say it was bad, I only said there's no point in this existing. What's stopping you from Safe Zoning your F.G.D? Also, win or lose cards in general are looked down in RC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RjCardMaker Posted January 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Gustos and Creature Swap say hi. I didn't say it was bad, I only said there's no point in this existing. What's stopping you from Safe Zoning your F.G.D? Also, win or lose cards in general are looked down in RC. I wonder how busted it would be if it didnt cost you a game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Wouldn't be busted at all. If you lose this, you pretty much lose anyway. Instead, change the removal to two-three Xyz Materials, because it honestly doesn't need that many destruction removals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RjCardMaker Posted January 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Wouldn't be busted at all. If you lose this, you pretty much lose anyway. Instead, change the removal to two-three Xyz Materials, because it honestly doesn't need that many destruction removals. an omnipotent monster with only 3 lives? seems good enough i suppose, but the point is a monster that annoys the hell out of non dragon players. truthfully i made a deck with Vanilla Dragons that can easily summon F.G.D and fast as hell... this card would put that thing to tier 1-1.5 the list is: Blue Eyes White Dragon x3 Alexandrite Dragon x3 red-eyes darkness metal dragon Darkstorm dragon x3 Cthonian emperor dragon (Replacable with a dragon's mirror) rescue rabbit Kodomo Dragon x2 Blue-eyed maiden x2 white elephant's gift x 2 wingbeat of the dragon (aka Heavy storm) x2 (one can be replaced with a dragon's mirror) trade-in x2 Dragon's shrine x2 XYZ reception x2 summoner's art Swing of memories super double summon unleash your powers Silver's Cry x3 Supervise x 2 call of the haunted x2 Solemn warning Dark bribe x 2 (one is replacable) Blue-eyes silver dragon x2 F.G.D (if the card were in the deck, its not but thats an example) Neo galaxy-eyes photon dragon Number 46 Number 107 Overlord Sun dragon heliopolis Thunder-End dragon Queen Dragun Djinn Daigusto Emral x2 now above is a deck that does nothing but draw cards and dump them, FAST (no seriously this thing is a fast deck, it looks inconsistent, but after doing the shuffle test i get a bad hand 1/8 times) this deck does not use dragon's mirror nor FGD. now imagine for a sec if it did and i popped that XYZ into the deck... see? there are still very fast dragon decks out there, Dragon's mirror isnt hard to get in a deck that draws over half itself in 2 turns.... but by then you'll usually have a giant beatick out.... hey, there's no kill like overkill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Noel- Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 y dont u just do some playtest, then u will find out how easy that deck can have a dead hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RjCardMaker Posted January 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 y dont u just do some playtest, then u will find out how easy that deck can have a dead hand been playtesting it for over a month.... bad hands are rare the shuffle test is a way for me to test how often i can get a bad hand, much quicker... i always use it with new decks. this thing in particular is a test spinoff of my normal dragon deck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwisatz-Haderach Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Nice Artwork, however i don't see a clear point why a player should use this card...ok it can survive 3 times but i mean, the opponent can get rid of 5-head before you can xyz this one, so i truly don't see the point. What about givin it a draw boost? "When this card is Summoned: Attach any number of banished Dragon-Type monsters to it as Xyz Materials. When a card or effect that would target this card is activated: You can detach 2 (or maybe 1) Xyz materials from this card; negate that card's effects until the End Phase. During each of your Standby Phases: Draw 1 card for each Dragon-Type monster with different Attribute attached to this card as Xyz Material." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RjCardMaker Posted January 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Nice Artwork, however i don't see a clear point why a player should use this card...ok it can survive 3 times but i mean, the opponent can get rid of 5-head before you can xyz this one, so i truly don't see the point. What about givin it a draw boost? "When this card is Summoned: Attach any number of banished Dragon-Type monsters to it as Xyz Materials. When a card or effect that would target this card is activated: You can detach 2 (or maybe 1) Xyz materials from this card; negate that card's effects until the End Phase. During each of your Standby Phases: Draw 1 card for each Dragon-Type monster with different Attribute attached to this card as Xyz Material." Guys the key-word here is balance... i want a good boss monster, i dont want an ungodly abomination, i want something of use to support an older card such as F.G.D thats why the original text had a lose condition attached to it (that and it could save itself as many times as needed) but you do understand that with decks that banish their dragons as well this thing could potentially wind up with 10 units attached to it, right? dont you think Drawing an exra god knows how many cards will make it just seem ungodly cheap? I already posted a Swarm/mass destruct deck that could abuse this thing.... for testing sake i slipped DM in there and won....... easily....... against Mermails (idk their current tier, but i believe its tier 1?) could you imagine if something like this appeared? i dont want to recreate Spellbook of Judgment, now. btw who says you need 5 headed to summon it? Phantom of Chaos + Gale Dogra (+ Sumoner monk) says hai, and surprisingly enough, its not the summon that gets stopped, it's the attack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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