Premier Alexander Romanov Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 DARK/Fiend/Level 1/100 ATK/300 DEF If this card is discarded to the Graveyard by a card effect: Special Summon this card from the Graveyard to your opponent's side of the field in face-up Defense Position. When this card is Special Summoned by the effect of a "Dark World" card: Your opponent must discard 1 card. I LOVE this card! It allows you to bring out some of the most deplorable effect combos Dark World has to offer, and can then be used as Gates fodder. ...So why isn't this card used more in Dark Worlds? Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 ...So why isn't this card used more in Dark Worlds?I could wait for Chris to answer this for you.ALTHOUGH....For the most part, 's are basically just Grapha, Snow, and Broww. The rest is stuff that lets Grapha stay on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Dead as shit and it's a -2 that basically nullifies any profit you'd make from the discarded DW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Dead as shit and it's a -2 that basically nullifies any profit you'd make from the discarded DW.Yea, basically, this^I mean, there's nothing really all that wrong with Ceruli, it's just... 's are much better off without it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted January 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Yea, basically, this^ I mean, there's nothing really all that wrong with Ceruli, it's just... 's are much better off without it. So Goldd's "destroy 2 cards when discarded by an opponent's card effect" effect won't make up for the minuses? Or Snoww's "summon a monster from either Graveyard" effect? Or Silva's "your opponent sends 2 cards from their hand to the bottom of their deck" effect? These are some really potent effects that would most likely never be used, and they are activated IN CONJUNCTION with their normal discard effects! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 So Goldd's "destroy 2 cards when discarded by an opponent's card effect" effect won't make up for the minuses? Or Snoww's "summon a monster from either Graveyard" effect? Or Silva's "your opponent sends 2 cards from their hand to the bottom of their deck" effect? These are some really potent effects that would most likely never be used, and they are activated IN CONJUNCTION with their normal discard effects! You're running Goldd and Silva? Please tell me more about how consistent your Deck is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 You're running Goldd and Silva? Please tell me more about how consistent your Deck is. Gold and Sliva are bad for the deck? Huh. Well, I should....yeah....bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted January 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 You're running Goldd and Silva? Please tell me more about how consistent your Deck is. Surprisingly consistent, actually. With Dark World Dealings and Dark World Lightnings, I can discard pretty easily, and I rarely don't have something to discard. I've dueled with my Dark World Deck in 5 matches, and I only lost 3 duels to a bad hand, so an 80% win rate is pretty good. So, if I'm allegedly not running Dark Worlds properly, how should I be running them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Surprisingly consistent, actually. With Dark World Dealings and Dark World Lightnings, I can discard pretty easily, and I rarely don't have something to discard. I've dueled with my Dark World Deck in 5 matches, and I only lost 3 duels to a bad hand, so an 80% win rate is pretty good. So, if I'm allegedly not running Dark Worlds properly, how should I be running them? I could wait for Chris to answer this for you.ALTHOUGH.... For the most part, 's are basically just Grapha, Snow, and Broww. The rest is stuff that lets Grapha stay on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted January 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 So what is this "rest"?And why don't Goldd, Silva, and Bronn make the cut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Surprisingly consistent, actually. With Dark World Dealings and Dark World Lightnings, I can discard pretty easily, and I rarely don't have something to discard. I've dueled with my Dark World Deck in 5 matches, and I only lost 3 duels to a bad hand, so an 80% win rate is pretty good. So, if I'm allegedly not running Dark Worlds properly, how should I be running them? Stopped reading at the lol part.So what is this "rest"? And why don't Goldd, Silva, and Bronn make the cut? Brron should be obvious. Beige on the other hand is usable as its regular summonable AND summons itself on discard. Unlike Goldd and Sillva who require a tribute. Though they make up for that with additional effects varying on build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Beige on the other hand is usable as its regular summonable AND summons itself on discard. Unlike Goldd and Sillva who require a tribute. Though they make up for that with additional effects varying on build. >Assuming people would EVER even see Gold and Silva as EVER being NS. Oh wait, >assuming people run Gold and Silva. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted January 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Look.This is my RL deck we're talking about.I can't afford fancy cards.I don't even HAVE an Extra Deck for this deck.I bought 3 copies of the Structure Deck for $10 each, and modified it with some cards I had in my collection.And it works.I was in a tourney the other night, with Archfiends, 2 Blue-Eyes Decks, an Atlantean Deck, and Blackwings.I came in second, the Blackwings beating me in a match.And I used Ceruli, to great effect, in every single match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 If it works for you, great. Doesnt really change the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Look. This is my RL deck we're talking about. I can't afford fancy cards. I don't even HAVE an Extra Deck for this deck. I bought 3 copies of the Structure Deck for $10 each, and modified it with some cards I had in my collection. And it works. I was in a tourney the other night, with Archfiends, 2 Blue-Eyes Decks, an Atlantean Deck, and Blackwings. I came in second, the Blackwings beating me in a match. And I used Ceruli, to great effect, in every single match. You could have started with this. Dark World isn't the same as Budget Dark World. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted January 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 You could have started with this. Dark World isn't the same as Budget Dark World.Why is it different?It's still a Dark World Deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 This is my RL deck-Just out of curiosity, but why didn't you mention this before?I don't even HAVE an Extra Deck for this deck.Considering Grapha is a 3K immortal beater(Assuming you have Gates out); They, technically don't need one. Or at least, don't need to rely on one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted January 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Just out of curiosity, but why didn't you mention this before?Because I figured it wasn't relevant.Why should it be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 I feel as though this should be moved to TCG Deck discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted January 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Let me actually make the deck and show you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Why is it different? It's still a Dark World Deck. Because the so-called fancy cards make the deck really dangerous. Like Felgrand Knight. Also you know, a lot of reactive backrow. All your deck SHOULD be doing is mowing down with Grapha/Rank 8s and stopping your opponent from doing jack. If you don't have Rank 8's, however... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted January 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Because the so-called fancy cards make the deck really dangerous. Like Felgrand Knight. Also you know, a lot of reactive backrow. All your deck SHOULD be doing is mowing down with Grapha/Rank 8s and stopping your opponent from doing jack. If you don't have Rank 8's, however...Why do you think I hold Goldd and Silva is such high regards?2600 ATK under Gates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Why do you think I hold Goldd and Silva is such high regards? 2600 ATK under Gates. That can't be Normal Summoned. So you need a lot more setup (say, use Gates for the turn) to bring out Grapha and by themselves they're inferior to the aforementioned. Also you don't have Dark Smog probably, which means one less discard outlet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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