Fascism/Nazism vrs Democratic/Captiolism

[Guest Supreme Gamesmaster]

But the fact is that one person can't do everything. The trouble with fascism is that people can't be great at absolutely everything, so fascist countries are guaranteed to hit bumps in the road. In democracies, many people lead, including specialists in certain fields that maybe the central leader doesn't know much about. Democracies are much more secure than fascisms in that sense.

[Static]

Elie Wiesel was wrong, Indifference is the closest thing to perfection we will ever achieve.

 

Perfection is the goal of the Human Race, and we are to evolve until we can achieve this. This debate is quite sad, because Cyberdude has no idea what Communism is, and people are generally turned off by Fascism because Hitler decided it was cool to kill off the most genetically advanced race on the planet.

 

Fascism is a Dictatorship with weak market control.

Republic = Half-Ass Democracy with weak market control.

True Democracy (theoretical) = Everything is determined by everyone. Does not function if any minority or majority of the members are uneducated.\

Theocracy = If one were to have complete market control, or the lack of a complex economy, it would be the BEST possible government. Unfortunately, all the current ones are based on fallacy (Islam and the like)

Socialism = In Essence, it is the will of the working man. It is the idea of either a Democratic (theoretical) or Communism, that is dubed Socialistic because it is formed of people who were lower members of "Free Market" economies feel that all members should work fairly and be treated as equals.

Communism = Socialism to the point in which Class is eliminated. A government in which Tight Market Control is held for the sake of the working man, the people are to live as close to equal lives as they can do, or be forced to, and the people share one common overlying creed. (the latter only in a truly ascended state) Stalin's Communism was not proper because he kept himself too highly above his people, and kept the "Ruling Class".

 

Free Market Economy is the flaw, it is not the government type. Capitalism and Fascism both have loosely regulated markets (Despite Fascism having a lot of control over manufacturing), so both are failures of political systems.

 

Communism is truly the best type of government. Sure, argue it only works on paper, but it can exist in perfection on our planet IF fascism comes before it and has a holocaust of the people who make it unable to function, or if we educate people. People remove, fix, and replace parts of machines that do not work, why can't we remove people from society that do not allow for us to function at our absolute best? Remove or fix (Genetically) those who must live above others, and let the ascended, educated elite live in true equality. Either separation or a proper genocide must occur before Communism will work properly, but if this occurs, then it will work.

 

This world is mine for the taking' date=' make me king[/quote']

[VladAshram]

Facism because i want to be the one with all the power and possible dictatorship.

Heil Ashram!!!

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It's HEIL! not Heir.

 

n00b.

[HORUS]

It's HEIL! not Heir.

 

n00b.

 

engrish perhapz???!?!?!11/!?

 

 

Nice Eminem quote by the way. Good song.

[Static]

To Kid who negged me: Your Cool.

[Guest Supreme Gamesmaster]

Elie Wiesel was wrong' date=' Indifference is the closest thing to perfection we will ever achieve.

 

Perfection is the goal of the Human Race, and we are to evolve until we can achieve this. This debate is quite sad, because Cyberdude has no idea what Communism is, and people are generally turned off by Fascism because Hitler decided it was cool to kill off the most genetically advanced race on the planet.

 

Fascism is a Dictatorship with weak market control.

Republic = Half-Ass Democracy with weak market control.

True Democracy (theoretical) = Everything is determined by everyone. Does not function if any minority or majority of the members are uneducated.\

Theocracy = If one were to have complete market control, or the lack of a complex economy, it would be the BEST possible government. Unfortunately, all the current ones are based on fallacy (Islam and the like)

Socialism = In Essence, it is the will of the working man. It is the idea of either a Democratic (theoretical) or Communism, that is dubed Socialistic because it is formed of people who were lower members of "Free Market" economies feel that all members should work fairly and be treated as equals.

Communism = Socialism to the point in which Class is eliminated. A government in which Tight Market Control is held for the sake of the working man, the people are to live as close to equal lives as they can do, or be forced to, and the people share one common overlying creed. (the latter only in a truly ascended state) Stalin's Communism was not proper because he kept himself too highly above his people, and kept the "Ruling Class".

 

Free Market Economy is the flaw, it is not the government type. Capitalism and Fascism both have loosely regulated markets (Despite Fascism having a lot of control over manufacturing), so both are failures of political systems.

 

Communism is truly the best type of government. Sure, argue it only works on paper, but it can exist in perfection on our planet IF fascism comes before it and has a holocaust of the people who make it unable to function, or if we educate people. People remove, fix, and replace parts of machines that do not work, why can't we remove people from society that do not allow for us to function at our absolute best? Remove or fix (Genetically) those who must live above others, and let the ascended, educated elite live in true equality. Either separation or a proper genocide must occur before Communism will work properly, but if this occurs, then it will work.

 

This world is mine for the taking, make me king

 

The flaw in your argument is assuming that the uneducated cannot fend for themselves. My guess is that about 65% and probably more of all people on this planet are uneducated. The "educated elite" comprise 35% and probably less. The outnumbering is supreme - 1,860,000,000 people is a huge difference, and that's optimistic for supporters of your proposed genocide. There is no real way a genocide at such enormous scale could occur without destroying the planet, unless you had the support of the massacred.

 

People remove' date=' fix, and replace parts of machines that do not work, why can't we remove people from society that do not allow for us to function at our absolute best?[/quote']

 

You remove ethics and ability from the equation. Parts of machines cannot rebel against being removed, fixed, and replaced. Sentient beings can, and most often do. Armed revolt is certainly possible; the lack of education does not always equate to the lack of intelligence, cunning, and ingenuity, and weapons, which are usually manufactured by the uneducated, can be stolen. Also, what sane sentient being would support and enact such a tremendous massacre? Well over four billion deaths don't exactly work wonders on your conscience.

 

The fact is, the plan is doomed to failure. The uneducated are also the underestimated, and they far outnumber the "educated elite." If communism only works under impossible circumstances, then it fails as a governmental system. Also, the "educated elite" aren't necessarily charitable. You still won't have any work incentive available, and the economy will shrivel and die because no one has any reason to work more than they absolutely have to.