Toffee. Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 Original thread: http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/138115-five-card-blind-looks-hilarious/It's like the regular game, except for these rule changes:1) Decks consist of exactly five cards, which start the game in the owner's hand. The deck is empty when the game begins.2) The three-per-deck rule does not exist; you may use up to five copies of the same card.3) You cannot lose due to being unable to draw; you will simply not draw in such circumstances.4) The opponent of the owner of the source of any random effect determines the outcome of that effect. (Note that if a player's deck would need to be shuffled for some reason, this means that whichever player's car didn't cause the shuffle gets to stack it.)5) The game assumes perfect information; thus, face-down cards are known to both players, and hands are face-up.6) A deck is not permitted to be capable of winning the duel or of sending more than one card from the opponent's hand to any other location (field, Graveyard, RFP, deck) during Turn 1 or Turn 2, regardless of who goes first and of what the opponent's deck contains. (Thus, Mind Crush can't ever be used, as the opponent might run multiples of something.)7) Tournaments are purely round-robin and are never single elimination. :cool: Matches consist of two duels, in which each player goes first once. Win both duels, earn six points; win one and tie one, earn four points; tie both or win one and lose one, earn two points; lose one and tie one, earn one point; lose both, earn nothing.9) The current banlist does not apply; any card that is not Illegal (note that Illegal and Forbidden are not equivalent) is legal in this format. A special banlist can be made if necessary (using 5/0 logic, naturally), but beyond that, the only rule that governs what you can and can't put in your deck is Rule 6 above.YCM, I command you to break this game as much as possible.Hypothetically, the game becomes this^Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delibirb Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 I only half understand the play of this. My Decks: (Offer Criticism/Repairs/Illegalities) [spoiler='Star Eater Deck'] 1 Exodius, the Ultimate Forbidden Lord 1 Maxx "C" 2 Effect Veiler 1 Solemn Judgement 1 Star Eater Play: Discard Maxx "C", summon Exodius, normal 1 Veiler, make Star Eater, set Solemn. [/spoiler] [spoiler='Goblin King Deck'] 2 Grinder Golem 1 Goblin King 1 Zerozerock 1 Royal Decree Play: Summon Goblin King, activate Zerozerock and set Decree. Next turn summon 2 Grinders, giving yourself a 6000 ATK Gking, who cannot win yet. [/spoiler] [spoiler='Demise Deck'] 1 Djinn Cursechanter 1 Djinn Releaser 1 Djinn Disserere 1 Demise, King of Armageddon 1 End of the World Straightforward play. [/spoiler] I kind of want to build and test these on DN... EDIT: Someone should make a test tournament for this. I dont think I have quite enough understanding of the gameplay to appropriately do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 Exodia. That is all. The opening hand isnt considered to be a turn until the actual draw. So that completely bypasses the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delibirb Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 As discussed on the original topic, Exodia is still illegal. Moreover, your logic doesnt make sense anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 The logic makes perfect sense. The opening hand is considered BEFORE Turn 1. Meaning, it bypasses the rule of "cant win turn 1 or turn 2". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 The logic makes perfect sense. The opening hand is considered BEFORE Turn 1. Meaning, it bypasses the rule of "cant win turn 1 or turn 2". 6. deck is not permitted to be capable of winning the duel or of sending more than one card from the opponent's hand to any other location (field, Graveyard, RFP, deck) during Turn 1 or Turn 2, regardless of who goes first and of what the opponent's deck contains. (Thus, Mind Crush can't ever be used, as the opponent might run multiples of something.) Logic/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delibirb Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 The logic makes perfect sense. The opening hand is considered BEFORE Turn 1. Meaning, it bypasses the rule of "cant win turn 1 or turn 2". Source for opening hand not being part of Turn 1 please? Ive never heard of that ever being a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 Source for opening hand not being part of Turn 1 please? Ive never heard of that ever being a thing. Its game mechanic. the turn doesn't start until the draw phase. Drawing the opening hand is before that. Its common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delibirb Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 Its game mechanic. the turn doesn't start until the draw phase. Drawing the opening hand is before that. Its common sense. Doesn't seem that sensical to me, I would very much like to be proven wrong with a source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 Zombyra the Dark Maryokutai Polymerization Offerings to the Doomed x 2 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted January 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 Exodia still doesn't work here.You win upon getting all 5 pieces, doesn't matter if you have to wait until [X] turns or not. Hence why you can't use Exodia.We even debated Exodia back in that 2009 thread; You literally cannot use it.Also, if you wanted to be pro, you would use something like Grand Mole + 4x Solemn Judgment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delibirb Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Exodia still doesn't work here. You win upon getting all 5 pieces, doesn't matter if you have to wait until [X] turns or not. Hence why you can't use Exodia. We even debated Exodia back in that 2009 thread; You literally cannot use it. Also, if you wanted to be pro, you would use something like Grand Mole + 4x Solemn Judgment. Thank you. :) Anyone have any advice/issues with my decks? None of them would be the meta if this had any kind of meta, probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted January 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Dodger DragonKunai with ChainJudgment x3Seems pretty amusing as a deck, now that I think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delibirb Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Dodger Dragon Kunai with Chain Judgment x3 Seems pretty amusing as a deck, now that I think about it. Seems like just a different but practically the same take on standard "decent sized monster with opp stuff negation" deck, though I suppose thats really the best kind of deck on this format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted January 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Seems like just a different but practically the same take on standard "decent sized monster with opp stuff negation" deck, though I suppose thats really the best kind of deck on this format....Never said it was the best.Just, Dodger is immune to Judgment, and your Judgments could just kill stuff like Bottomless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 BLS (Ritual) Light Hex Sealed Poly Heavy Storm Dark Hole Eeeeh, seems kinda like a RPS/Coin Flip format, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted January 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Eeeeh, seems kinda like a RPS/Coin Flip format, IMO.It is, and it isn't.It is, because everyone can spam SolemnsIt isn't, because you can basically do 5x Exchange to screw over your opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delibirb Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 It is, and it isn't. It is, because everyone can spam Solemns It isn't, because you can basically do 5x Exchange to screw over your opponent. Didnt they decide in the old thread 5 exchanges was illegal? I think they then concluded 4 was fine, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANDAA BORUTO Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Blue-eyes deck for fun: 3 BEWD Poly Dragon's Mirror 2 BEUD New Orders 12 Rank 12 Xyz if one ever gets released Just for the heck of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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