how to achieve progress

[hypebeast]

u ever noticed how you have to forget culture in order to achieve progress?

 

think about it, look at some african countries. they are still third world because of their religious beliefs, culture etc...

 

now look at america. the biggest cities would probably be new york, los angeles and miami. all of which are really liberalist and open minded cities. now look at all the lower states like texas and stuff (the "redneck" states as some people say). why do you think no tourists ever go to texas?

 

tell me when was the last time you saw a first world, developed, working country that still follows its own culture and traditions, etc...

this is also a problem in latin america where people seem to be really attached to their roots for some reason because theyre not even interesting imo lol. thats why big potential countries like venezuela and brazil are still somewhat underdeveloped.

 

do u agree?

[Cin]

Um....they're third world countries because the richer countries have continually exploited them. Not because of religion, culture, etc.

You're very closed minded. People go to certain areas because of the tourists sites that interest them, it's just the way the US has built up. Simple. Why the hate on Texas? And what about New Orleans don't alot of tourists go there?

 

I think we step more away from religion because we have alot of access to other things, so there's alot more chance for outside influences to change our mind such as Science. So not much other reason.

 

Most of it started out of human curiousity, and when they found something they were interested in they looked elsewhere sometimes with horrific consequences.

Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy reminded me of this. The Krikkit people until the spaceship crash landed on their planet were quite content not to look beyond their planet. After that they became really curious. And caused havoc.

Others are just content with their traditions because that's all they know and it works for them. Think how much stress we put on ourselves for no reason.

 

You didn't really think much before posting right?

[.Rai]

I don't know how accurate this is in the present day, but there's a point to be said. The Renaissance after all was the abandonment of old culture and religion in favour of new art, new music, new science.

[hypebeast]

Um....they're third world countries because the richer countries have continually exploited them. Not because of religion, culture, etc.

 

tinfoil hat guy over here.

 

you ever seen how ACTUALLY close minded theyre in most african and middle-eastern contries?

[LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow]

tinfoil hat guy over here.

*girl

Anyway, "tinfoil hat girl" has a point.

And you can still find a LOT of culture in 1st world countries. They're just not shown as often. Many many cities in the U.S. have a ton of culture, and plenty of other countries too. I honestly don't see how you can think this.

Heck, I've seen plenty African culture expressed in some 1st world countries. I...really don't get what you're saying here.

[hypebeast]

 

Heck, I've seen plenty African culture expressed in some 1st world countries. I...really don't get what you're saying here.

 

what 1st world countries?

[chairman ali]

u ever noticed how you have to forget culture in order to achieve progress?

 

think about it, look at some african countries. they are still third world because of their religious beliefs, culture etc...

 

what? third world because of those reasons? No, they're third world because there are people who control who lives a good life and who doesn't.

 

That's like saying people are starving because they're not progressing. No. There is enough food in the world for everyone to eat. But people still starve because that abundant source of food is controlled by certain people. And those people are merely starving because they didn't sell themselves to the materialistic corporations around the world. People have whatever the government kicks down to them and sadly the government sometimes doesn't kick down food, they kick down the plates for you to wash. And once your government is rules by greed, you can forget progress. Don't blame religion or culture. Blame the people who control everything

you ever seen how ACTUALLY close minded theyre in most african and middle-eastern contries?

 

i'm middle eastern. I've lived in the middle east for all my life and I have yet to see a close minded person over there.

 

You're thinking of Saudi. Saudi doesn't represent Islam in any way. Just because it has Mekkah doesn't mean they represent islam. Don't forget that when Mekkah already existed, there were people already prostrating to statues, cows and the sun. Don't generalise because it's making you look terrible atm.

 

and really, where are you getting this from? CNN? where if a Muslim commits a crime he's a terrorist but when a white supremacist shoots a church full of people he's mentally unstable? Oh please, get a grip will you

[Night]

think about it, look at some african countries. they are still third world because of their religious beliefs, culture etc...

 

Elaborate.

 

I guarantee you just pulled that out of your ass. 

[hypebeast]

ill agree to disagree before i get disabled again lol.

 

but somebody explain to me why theres so many countries that with leaders that keep trying to push rules and stuff into their people, NOT letting them think freely. thats the kind of country that wont progress. and im saying that a lot of those leaders are in those countries. i myself live in venezuela and were in the process of becoming the american north-korea.

 

think cuba, venezuela, north korea, libya.

 

also i dont see how terrorism fits into this discussio.

[LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow]

what 1st world countries?

I mostly mean that in 1st world countries you actually see MORE of the culture. Since they generally have more people of different cultures that are able to live decent lives and express that culture.

The places you're talking about are ones that are oppressed and aren't allowed to develop.

[Mugendramon]

ill agree to disagree before i get disabled again lol.

On a more serious note, beliefs do tend to slow down progress. This is not a rule of thumb however, more of a general trend.

 

You saying it as an absolute makes you look like a pretentious prick.

[chairman ali]

ill agree to disagree before i get disabled again lol.

 

but somebody explain to me why theres so many countries that with leaders that keep trying to push rules and stuff into their people, NOT letting them think freely. thats the kind of country that wont progress. and im saying that a lot of those leaders are in those countries. i myself live in venezuela and were in the process of becoming the american north-korea.

 

think cuba, venezuela, north korea, libya.

 

also i dont see how terrorism fits into this discussio.

 

 

why are you blaming it on religion and culture then? do you think every leader who believes in god is a scholar of that religion? unless you're a scholar you don't represent the religion. Blame the person's ethics and lack of understanding of peace, equality and purity.

 

terrorism wasn't brought into the discussion other than you're repeating what CNN and other mainstream governmental backed media are saying. Thats where 'terrorism' came in.

[Cin]

Some people are just greedy and if they can take advantage of people they will, that is human nature although in its basic form it was about getting the resources needed to survive and if we didn't have that basic instinct our ancestors wouldn't have survived long outside of Africa . It's the development Humans have done since then that makes this instinct reach just well silly levels.

It depends how strong the iron fist is against the people, or people have just learnt that protesting will just get arrested or even killed. So there's the fear element of not being able to do anything.

[Zauls]

OK, so as an Economics student who is sitting an exam in a few weeks where a question about this could come up, I suppose I should contribute...

 

A lot has already been said. Countries are still third world because rich nations have exploited them to benefit only themselves. The UK was one of the most guilty and a lot of our development is actually because of the exploitation of people as slaves in the past. America too. China is currently eating a lot of Africa's resources and taking the profits for themselves while paying the African workers terrible wages and making them work in unsafe conditions. It provides jobs in the short term, but when those resources run out and China go somewhere else, Africa won't have the resources available to even become developed.

Another large issue is obviously government corruption in third world countries. Most third world countries have such enormous inequality because those in power take everything for themselves to buy mansions made of gold etc. when there are people starving in their country. 

Culture and religion do not have much to do with poor development. The UK managed to develop perfectly fine while it was still a very religious country. As more alternatives have become available and science has found more answers, religion has declined, but the decline of religion happened because of development, not the other way round.

[Lunar Origins]

Remember that, for thousands of years, the middle east was the cultural hub of learning.