Neutrality Man Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 3 Level 9 Monsters Can also be Xyz Summoned using 2 or more face-up Dragon-type Synchro Monsters with any Level on the Field as the Xyz Materials. During each of your opponent's End Phases, detach 1 Xyz Material from this card. This card gains effects based on the number of Xyz Material attached to it: 1+: Once per turn, you can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card: Discard any number of cards to target the same number of cards on the field; return those targets to the hand. 2+: If this card would be destroyed, you can detach 1 Xyz Material instead. 3+: Cannot be targeted by card effects. 4+: Once per turn, you can pay 700 Life points to target 1 card on the Field; destroy that target. 5+: Once per turn, during your Main Phase 1: Special Summon one Dragon-type Monster from your Extra Deck, then, if the Summoned monster was an Xyz Monster, attach the top 2 cards of your Deck to it as Xyz Material. You cannot Special Summon other monsters the turn you activate this effect, except Dragon-type monsters. [spoiler='Don't do drugs, kids.'] 3 Level 9 Monsters This card can also be Xyz Summoned using 2 or more face-up Dragon-type Synchro Monsters on the Field as the Xyz Materials. During each of your opponent's End Phases, detach 1 Xyz Material from this card. This card gains effects based on the number of Xyz Material attached to it: 1+: Once per turn, you can discard any number of cards from your hand to the Graveyard; return cards your opponent controls to the owner's hand, equal to the number of cards discarded. 2+: This card cannot be destroyed by card effects. 3+: This card cannot be targeted by your opponent's card effects. 4+ Once per turn, destroy any number of cards on the Field, then you lose 700 Life Points for each card destroyed. 5+: Once per turn, during either player's turn; Special Summon one Dragon-type Monster from your Extra Deck, then, if the Summoned monster was an Xyz Monster, attach the top 2 cards of your Deck to it as Xyz Material. You cannot Special Summon any other monsters the turn you activate this effect. [spoiler='Don't do drugs, kids.'] 3 Level 12 Monsters This card can also be Xyz Summoned using 4 or more face-up Dragon-type Synchro Monsters on the Field as the Xyz Materials. During each of your opponent's End Phases, detach 1 Xyz Material from this card. If you cannot, banish this card. This card gains effects based on the number of Xyz Material attached to it: 1+: Once per turn, you can discard any number of cards from your hand to the Graveyard; return cards your opponent controls to the owner's hand, equal to the number of cards discarded. 2+: This card cannot be destroyed by card effects. 3+: This card cannot be targeted by your opponent's card effects. 4+ This card is also treated as a Level 12 Synchro Monster. Becoming a Synchro Monster by this effect is treated as a Synchro Summon. 5+: Once per turn, during either player's turn; Special Summon one Dragon-type Monster from your Extra Deck, then, if the Summoned monster was an Xyz Monster, attach the top 2 cards of your Deck to it as Xyz Material. You cannot Special Summon any other monsters the turn you activate this effect.[/spoiler] [/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikel. Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 Well, now it's fixed. My review: 3 Level 9 Monsters [Review: 3 LEVEL 9 monsters required to summon this card; makes it slow and needy.] This card can also be Xyz Summoned using 2 or more face-up Dragon-type Synchro Monsters on the Field as the Xyz Materials. [Review: So it's your turn and they have 5 Dragon-type Synchro Monsters on the Field-wipe! Bam, now it's anti-Dragon-type Synchro card: this isn't possible to be allowed due to it's board net. Knowing the cyber card that does this is allowed, it's for the reason that it sticks to cybers only...small fish while yours is aiming the other way...no happing in Yu-Gi-Oh...needs more restitutions] During each of your opponent's End Phases, detach 1 Xyz Material from this card. [Review: to point> it's forcing you to use each reward gain for it's quick summon> this equalizes the card but does not point address that having summoned it normally it's useless] This card gains effects based on the number of Xyz Material attached to it: 1+: Once per turn, you can discard any number of cards from your hand to the Graveyard; return cards your opponent controls to the owner's hand, equal to the number of cards discarded. [Review: No, just no! It's being Op'd by adding this...the summoning altogether was overwhelming] 2+: This card cannot be destroyed by card effects.[Review: Well, now I just have to meet this and am set with a sure-full win(notice the ATK& DEF is highly unbeatable it's already more like red-dragon-archfiend-nova(something-like that) no never-mind this card has surpassed it.] 3+: This card cannot be targeted by your opponent's card effects.(Just as above and I will stop now) 4+ Once per turn, destroy any number of cards on the Field, then you lose 700 Life Points for each card destroyed.5+: Once per turn, during either player's turn; Special Summon one Dragon-type Monster from your Extra Deck, then, if the Summoned monster was an Xyz Monster, attach the top 2 cards of your Deck to it as Xyz Material. You cannot Special Summon any other monsters the turn you activate this effect. I find that this card needs more help...it's Op'ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren✧ Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 Oh lordy... These type of cards have always been difficult for me to review because they are so extreme. In many aspects, the card has the potential to be abused, and yet the idea that it will ever be allowed in such a situation makes that okay. In short, it is just a bad design, no two ways about it. There are a good number of things that need to be corrected, but I'll touch on some of the bigger things. First thing is first, the summoning conditions: I realize that there are alternative summoning methods given, but even so, the primary materials should not be so impossibly obtainable. There are only twelve level 12 monsters in the game. The majority of which are in the extra deck themselves and require a deck entirely dedicated to their summoning to even see play time. That, in and of itself, labels this card as a bad design. The primary summoning requirement is (for the most part) impossible to achieve and therefore the rest of the card is rendered completely redundant. Moving on to the alternative way of summoning: 4 or more synchro dragons? Now, tell me, if I have the field presence of four synchro dragons, presumably they are all of some use and of significant strength, why would I sacrifice that advantage to get out this? 999 times out of 1000, I will be able to win with my four dragons in some combination in a more reliable and consistent way than with this card. So, even if we discount the idea that having four synchro dragons out is unlikely, this card is still useless because of its impossible requirements. The rest of the effects, while some are half way decent, have their own hoard of problems. Fortunately, those effects don't matter much because you would never get this card out to use them. Some suggestions for improvement, start over. I know that as a new card maker it is tempting to create super powerful monsters that will totally obliterate your opponent, but you will quickly learn that, that is not the right way to go about card making. Try something a little more subtle. Experiment with new ideas, don't just throw a bunch of effects. Please don't take these comments personally, instead use them as a learning tool. If you need further help, please visit the Welcome/Tutoring Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutrality Man Posted June 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 I'll point out that it doesn't say "Dragon-type Synchro Monsters you control", just "on the field" Reduced the Rank and slackened the Summon conditions I will edit this after you answer me one question: How long have you played Yu-Gi-Oh? From the beginning... but I was 8 at that time. I've been seriously looking at cards since... I joined here. roughly 2008. I probably came off as an incompetent because I'm still learning how to make Xyz Monsters. It also doesn't help I'm planning to get the hell out if this 2 turn game bullshit doesn't stop in the online systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikel. Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 I'll point out that it doesn't say "Dragon-type Synchro Monsters you control", just "on the field" Reduced the Rank and slackened the Summon conditions From the beginning... but I was 8 at that time. I've been seriously looking at cards since... I joined here. roughly 2008. I probably came off as an incompetent because I'm still learning how to make Xyz Monsters. It also doesn't help I'm planning to get the hell out if this 2 turn game bullshit doesn't stop in the online systems. What did you mean there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutrality Man Posted June 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 That I'm starting to just not give a shit anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikel. Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 That I'm starting to just not give a s*** anymore. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Stomper Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 This is OP - it's like Brionac mixed with Obelisk and Hardened Arm - I understand you're trying to make a no. 86, but this power level is way off the chart. We understand each other when we say that NO ONE would overlay 3 to get into this; it would just be a sort of back-up thunder charger for Dragon-type 5d's decks. 3 Level 9 Monsters Can also be Xyz Summoned using 2 or more face-up Dragon-type Synchro Monsters with any Level on the Field as the Xyz Materials. During each of your opponent's End Phases, detach 1 Xyz Material from this card. This card gains effects based on the number of Xyz Material attached to it: 1+: Once per turn, you can detach 1 Xyz material from this card: Discard any number of cards to target the same number of cards on the field; return those targets to the hand. 2+: If this card would be Destroyed, you can detach 1 Xyz material instead. 3+: Cannot be targeted by card effects. 4+: Once per turn, you can pay 700 Life points to target 1 card on the Field; destroy that target. 5+: Once per turn, during your Main Phase I: Special Summon one Dragon-type Monster from your Extra Deck, then, if the Summoned monster was an Xyz Monster, attach the top 2 cards of your Deck to it as Xyz Material. You cannot Special Summon other monsters the turn you activate this effect, except Dragon-type monsters. Also don't quit on yugioh, there's a banlist in a month - the gamestate will change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutrality Man Posted June 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 Thanks for the fixes... I should probably just stick to Synchros and Fusions. Also, the banlist is 60% of the reason I'm getting out. My favorite Deck has been unplayable since Dragons vs Prophecy Format (March '13) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikel. Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 Thanks for the fixes... I should probably just stick to Synchros and Fusions. Also, the banlist is 60% of the reason I'm getting out. My favorite Deck has been unplayable since Dragons vs Prophecy Format (March '13) When you return online and see this; I'm going to try fixing it: 3 Level 9 Monsters This card can also be Xyz Summoned using 2 or more face-up Dragon-type Synchro Monsters on the Field as the Xyz Materials, when Special Summoned by this effect: During each of your opponent's End Phases, detach 1 Xyz Material from this card. If you Special Summon this card (expect by it's card effect): This card gains effects based on the number of Xyz Material attached to it: 1+: Once per turn, you can pay 700 Life points to target 1 card on the Field; destroy that target.2+: If this card would be destroyed, you can detach 1 Xyz Material instead. 3+: Once per turn, during your Main Phase 1: Special Summon one Dragon-type Monster from your Extra Deck, then, if the Summoned monster was an Xyz Monster, attach the top 2 cards of your Deck to it as Xyz Material. You cannot Special Summon other monsters the turn you activate this effect, except Dragon-type monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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