Agro Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 The Necloth of RaginWATER / Level 5[ Spellcaster / Ritual / Effect ]You can Ritual Summon this card with any "Necloth" Ritual Spell card. Must be Ritual Summoned and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. You can discard this card: Add 1 banished "Necloth" card to your hand. Discard 1 card; draw 1 card and reveal it, and if the drawn card is a "Necloth" card, flip 1 monster your opponent controls that was Summoned from the Extra Deck into face-down Defense Position, and if you do, draw 1 additional card. Each effect of "Necloth Ragin" can only be activated once per turn.ATK / 2300 DEF / 1800 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 The card is great. The first effect is predictable and most likely an official Necloth Ritual will have it, but it has not been taken by any leaked Necloth yet so it's fine. But the second effect is what makes the card good: the flavor is strong with its own take on the "draw 2 cards" effect from Ragin, while adding a clever anti-Extra-Deck monster effect characteristic of Necloths that doesn't generate further card advantage. Just a question: The "and if one of those cards is a Necloth monster" condition checks for both the discarded and the drawn card, right? If so, I think you should drop an PSCT here because it can be misleading. Also you could add a "reveal that card", just like Zielgigas draw effect, to confirm the drawn card was a Necloth monster. Finally, you could allow the effect to trigger with "Necloth" cards (including the Ritual Spell and any other S/T support they might get) instead to make it more reliable. Suggested fix: Discard 1 card; draw 1 card and reveal it, then, if it was a "Necloth" monster or you discarded a "Necloth" monster to activate this effect, you can flip 1 monster your opponent controls that was Special Summoned from the Extra Deck into face-down Defense Position, and if you do, draw 1 additional card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted September 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 Just a question: The "and if one of those cards is a Necloth monster" condition checks for both the discarded and the drawn card, right? If so, I think you should drop an PSCT here because it can be misleading. Also you could add a "reveal that card", just like Zielgigas draw effect, to confirm the drawn card was a Necloth monster. Finally, you could allow the effect to trigger with "Necloth" cards (including the Ritual Spell and any other S/T support they might get) instead to make it more reliable. Suggested fix: Discard 1 card; draw 1 card and reveal it, then, if it was a "Necloth" monster or you discarded a "Necloth" monster to activate this effect, you can flip 1 monster your opponent controls that was Special Summoned from the Extra Deck into face-down Defense Position, and if you do, draw 1 additional card. It being a Necloth monster only applies to the drawn card. Not the discarded card. I have edited the PSCT as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 Oh, I thought it also counted the discarded card so it would be much easier to trigger the 2nd card draw and get a +1 from the effect; I don't think it would hurt if it worked that way. Or you could instead reveal any "Necloth" card in hand after drawing, to ensure you get that additional card if you already have a Necloth card at hand. Because as it stands now, a hand fixer with the chance of disabling a monster and generating a +1 doesn't look as powerful as the rest of the Necloths in my opinion. Another alternative is to make the monster-flipping effect less luck-reliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted September 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 The monster flip is just a side effect, really. I didn't want to give it a +1 draw every turn so I made the second draw more luck reliant, with the need to have an opponent's monster on the field to get that draw, but also adding in the flip as extra power for that randomness. It's not supposed to be uber powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 That makes sense. I was thinking that it should be as powerful as the other Necloths, but in retrospect Necloth Brionac and Trishula aren't that fair actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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