Guest PikaPerson01 Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 Dark/Spellcaster/3 stars/1000/1000 When you have "Right Leg of the Forbidden One", "Left Leg of the Forbidden One", "Right Arm of the Forbidden One", and "Left Arm of the Forbidden One", in addition to this card in your hand, you win the Duel. It should be banned on any decent list. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 I'm disagreeing. Any decent list would have gotten rid of most turbo engines, therefor Exodia decks would be about as slow as any other deck. Keep it at 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harhar Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 Why banned it takes a while to draw and the chances of having it in your hand are not so great and your opponent might have a card destruction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 Why banned it takes a while to draw and the chances of having it in your hand are not so great and your opponent might have a card destruction. Your opponent "might" have Card Destruction? When you play Monster Reborn, your opponent "might" have D.D. Crow. Doesn't make it any less playable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 Yu-Gi-Oh should be a game based on skill, not on luck of the draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harhar Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 Right if we wanted luck of the draw we would play poker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 Yu-Gi-Oh should be a game based on skill' date=' not on luck of the draw.[/quote'] How would drawing Exodia correspond to a winning of the game by luck any more than having the winning hand in SixSam? Or any other deck that has such a hand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shonenhikada Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 Yu-Gi-Oh should be a game based on skill' date=' not on luck of the draw.[/quote'] The game isn't based on skill its based on luck lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 no no its not it takes skill to make a deck it takes skill to kno what to play at the right time belive me my pal was using my dragondeck (ok we wer noobs back then but it was the best deck any of us had)and i beat him using his starterdeck kaiba evo thus skill and i agree ban exodia or ban torbo engines, but there is alot mind you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 Seeing as yugioh takes no skill at all to play , no matter what the game is, just a simple understanding of all the effects in ones deck and predicting the probability that move x will be more successful than move y in the long run (logic and probability), Exodia's head should not be banned. Attacking and burn shouldn't be the only way to win. Should Destiny board be banned in a proper list, one with three MST? No, it should not, because it takes more skill (logic and ability to determine probability) to run Destiny board than it does to run Gadgets or a ratbox properly, even though the win condition is an effect rather than damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 then why play yuigoh if its totally luck based i belive it requires about 50/50 luck and skill as you have to be skillful to kno what to do with your hand as ykno you might draw all spells :S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 then why play yuigoh if its totally luck based i belive it requires about 50/50 luck and skill as you have to be skillful to kno what to do with your hand as ykno you might draw all spells :S Yugioh Skill is nothing more than 8th grade math skills (probability) and logical reasoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umbra Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 Semi-Interesting stuff: You know the chance of drawing Exodia in your opening hand (the five parts)? 1 / 658008. Not that it's relative or something. Just the fact that if you play with Exodia, you should have a way to draw all cards in your deck ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 Yu-Gi-Oh should be a game based on skill' date=' not on luck of the draw.[/quote'] How would drawing Exodia correspond to a winning of the game by luck any more than having the winning hand in SixSam? Or any other deck that has such a hand? SixSam still has to attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 Semi-Interesting stuff: You know the chance of drawing Exodia in your opening hand (the five parts)? 1 / 658008. Not that it's relative or something. Just the fact that if you play with Exodia' date=' you should have a way to draw all cards in your deck ASAP.[/quote'] Only once has that happened that I know of. My friend was playing One of the GBA games vs the CPU Yugi, and Yugi's first hand was the 5 pieces. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 Seeing as yugioh takes no skill at all to play ' date=' no matter what the game is, just a simple understanding of all the effects in ones deck and predicting the probability that move x will be more successful than move y in the long run (logic and probability), Exodia's head should not be banned. Attacking and burn shouldn't be the only way to win. Should Destiny board be banned in a proper list, one with three MST? No, it should not, because it takes more skill (logic and ability to determine probability) to run Destiny board than it does to run Gadgets or a ratbox properly, even though the win condition is an effect rather than damage.[/quote'] *Yawn* How is Destiny Board and Gadgets and Ratbox at all like Exodia? It's a 0 or 3 card. Exodia should only be allowed at zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 Yu-Gi-Oh should be a game based on skill' date=' not on luck of the draw.[/quote'] How would drawing Exodia correspond to a winning of the game by luck any more than having the winning hand in SixSam? Or any other deck that has such a hand? SixSam still has to attack. And it requires less cards than Exodia does. *Yawn* How is Destiny Board and Gadgets and Ratbox at all like Exodia? It's a 0 or 3 card. Exodia should only be allowed at zero. I was under the impression that Atem left it at 1 on his newest list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 Yu-Gi-Oh should be a game based on skill' date=' not on luck of the draw.[/quote'] How would drawing Exodia correspond to a winning of the game by luck any more than having the winning hand in SixSam? Or any other deck that has such a hand? SixSam still has to attack. And it requires less cards than Exodia does. And it could be ****ed up by any anti-swarm trap, and any trap monster removal. Your point? *Yawn* How is Destiny Board and Gadgets and Ratbox at all like Exodia? It's a 0 or 3 card. Exodia should only be allowed at zero. I was under the impression that Atem left it at 1 on his newest list. *yawn* 'Kay. So? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 Yu-Gi-Oh should be a game based on skill' date=' not on luck of the draw.[/quote'] How would drawing Exodia correspond to a winning of the game by luck any more than having the winning hand in SixSam? Or any other deck that has such a hand? SixSam still has to attack. And it requires less cards than Exodia does. And it could be ****ed up by any anti-swarm trap, and any trap monster removal. Your point? Doesn't the winning hand have Giant Trunade or something to clear the backfield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 Yu-Gi-Oh should be a game based on skill' date=' not on luck of the draw.[/quote'] How would drawing Exodia correspond to a winning of the game by luck any more than having the winning hand in SixSam? Or any other deck that has such a hand? SixSam still has to attack. And it requires less cards than Exodia does. And it could be ****ed up by any anti-swarm trap, and any trap monster removal. Your point? As could exodia..... Dustshoot and the like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 Yu-Gi-Oh should be a game based on skill' date=' not on luck of the draw.[/quote'] How would drawing Exodia correspond to a winning of the game by luck any more than having the winning hand in SixSam? Or any other deck that has such a hand? SixSam still has to attack. And it requires less cards than Exodia does. And it could be ****ed up by any anti-swarm trap, and any trap monster removal. Your point? As could exodia..... Dustshoot and the like. Moar like Dustshoot and then nothing else, amirite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 Doesn't the winning hand have Giant Trunade or something to clear the backfield? It's just about equal to Exodia then, and still needs monster removal, making it less good then Exodia. (Cyber Dragon, Samurai, Grandmaster, Shogun + S/T Removal + Monster Removal) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 Yu-Gi-Oh should be a game based on skill' date=' not on luck of the draw.[/quote'] How would drawing Exodia correspond to a winning of the game by luck any more than having the winning hand in SixSam? Or any other deck that has such a hand? SixSam still has to attack. And it requires less cards than Exodia does. And it could be ****ed up by any anti-swarm trap, and any trap monster removal. Your point? As could exodia..... Dustshoot and the like. Moar like Dustshoot and then nothing else, amirite? Your going to make me list them. Get ready to laugh Drop OffDrastic Drop OffSpiritual Water ArtThestalos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 Your going to make me list them. Get ready to laugh Drop OffDrastic Drop OffSpiritual Water ArtThestalos Dark Eruption and Factory of Mass Production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 Your going to make me list them. Get ready to laugh Drop OffDrastic Drop OffSpiritual Water ArtThestalos Dark Eruption and Factory of Mass Production. and thats a good reason to ban the head of exodia rather than limit Cyber Valley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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