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Fyre, Archduke of Dark World (Dark World just got scary)


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You can Special Summon this card (from your Graveyard) by sending 1 of your banished "Dark World" monsters to the Graveyard, except "Fyre, Archduke of Dark World". If this card is discarded to the Graveyard by a card effect: Target 1 other "Dark World" card in your Graveyard; add that target to your hand, then, if this card was discarded from your hand to your Graveyard by an opponent's card effect, you can discard 1 card and/or Special Summon Summon level 4 or lower Fiend-Type monster from your Graveyard.

 

Based on the color sapphire

 

This is meant to be a partner card to Grapha. A tad weaker, offensively, but what it lacks in its own ATK, it makes up for by strengthening the archetype and its possible combos as well as addressing the issue Dark Worlds face when Graphas start getting banished. It can add a Dark World from grave to hand when discarded, which should drastically improve consistency and speed.

 

1 possible combo: return banished grapha to grave, then SS this guy, and then bounce it to SS grapha.

 

You can also use it to recycle snoww, broww, and the Dark World Spells. It also should allow for a bit more freedom in deck-building, as this card allows you to pull focus that was being spent on addressing dead draws to beefing up the already-noteworthy offense that dark world brings to the table.

 

TL;DR

It beefs up dark worlds while addressing 2 key weaknesses: banishing Grapha and overall consistency

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this card is huge, mostly because there are only 3 legit good darkworld cards and beiige is kinda good mostly because you can NS, the level 5s suck too much to be considered reliable or good. basically it sucks when you draw no monsters, too few engine pieces (that then get blown up), or both. this helps shore up both. plus, extra SS yo.

 

easily a Role Player. also goes for the ghetto trade-in version of darkworld (lol plz no) if people are into that.

 

however something is lacking here. your discarded by opponent effect isn't particularly impressive and somewhat bland. I suggest changing it up a bit if possible.

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I don't like this card. The DW field Spell can easily set it up, then it can either be used to revive a Grapha OR make a Rank8 along Grapha; the latter is the worst part. It also is a Trade-in target as pointed out above.

 

The discard effects are not as threatening, but its summoning condition alone should be enough for this card to be dangerous.

 

I have no idea of what to suggest to fix it. Personally, I would scrap the card. In my opinion DWs don't deserve another recurring Level8 that makes Rank8s plays much easier.

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I don't like this card. The DW field Spell can easily set it up, then it can either be used to revive a Grapha OR make a Rank8 along Grapha; the latter is the worst part. It also is a Trade-in target as pointed out above.

 

The discard effects are not as threatening, but its summoning condition alone should be enough for this card to be dangerous.

 

I have no idea of what to suggest to fix it. Personally, I would scrap the card. In my opinion DWs don't deserve another recurring Level8 that makes Rank8s plays much easier.

This card was meant to address 2 problems that DW run into on a regular basis, as pointed out in original post. The level, was actually intended for synchro plays, believe it or not. If it helps, I could ake it a level 7 instead. But truth-be-told, that really takes away from what I wanted this guy to be (however, DW does lack a level 7, so meh). I dont intend to scrap it. I'm actually quite proud of this card. Do you think a level decrease to 7 would help balance it a bit? 2500 ATK on a lvl 7 isn't unheard of.

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I think how much help DW needs is largely opinion. Many people hate DW's destructive strength (almost lucksack-y, except timmies hate playing vs it as opposed to something like LS) and thus see no reason for DW to be strong, but consistency and lack of ability to make a better dude than Grapha without investing significant resources are two glaring weaknesses. Reducing to level 7 would weaken this card quite a bit, to be sure, but I'm not quite convinced that this card would send DW into OP territory ... I mean sure Snoww searches it, but I'd playtest before passing a verdict.

 

Depends on what you use as a scale for your balance though. Personally I'd prefer a version with weaker stats but level 4 (and thus Normal Summon-able) if it's nerfed. FWIW, I thought the discard 1 card part was fine but the SS a level 4 or lower Fiend was yawn so I'm only really interested in seeing the latter part fixed.

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FWIW, I thought the discard 1 card part was fine but the SS a level 4 or lower Fiend was yawn so I'm only really interested in seeing the latter part fixed.

ok. So what about this for a possible change:

 

You can Special Summon this card (from your Graveyard) by sending 1 of your banished "Dark World" monsters to the Graveyard, except "Fyre, Archduke of Dark World". If this card is discarded to the Graveyard by a card effect: Target 1 other "Dark World" card in your Graveyard; add that target to your hand, then, if this card was discarded from your hand to your Graveyard by an opponent's card effect, you can discard 1 card and/or Special Summon Summon 1 Fiend-Type monster from your Graveyard in face-up Defense Position.

 

This way, it can get a grapha or immediately ss itself...the def pos is to avoid some abuse...might also add "a monster Summoned this way cannot be used as an Xyz or Synchro Material for a Summon this turn"

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Well, what I meant was that Special Summoning was done by something else already (although upon further review I note that both Grapha and Snoww do not summon from your own Graveyard ... so I guess the effect is legit but the following point still stands) and also somewhat boring. You could try for an effect like "you can return 1 card you control to its owner's hand, also discard 1 card", or maybe you could do something else (because reusing Gates might be too good and I thought nothing through). Basically what I'm saying is get creative with the effect, the rest of the card is good enough already that the discard by opponent effect doesn't have to be amazing.

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