razzy Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 When this card is Normal Summoned and your opponent controls more cards than you: You can Special Summon 1 Level 4 or lower Plant-Type monster from your Deck in face-up Defense Position, and if you do, you can only Special Summon 1 more monster this turn. If this card is banished: You can add 1 "Rose" Plant-Type or Warrior-Type monster from your Deck to your hand. A Dragon-Type Synchro Monster that used this card as a Synchro Material cannot be destroyed or targeted by card effects until the end of this turn. [spoiler=1st version] When this card is Normal Summoned and your opponent controls more cards than you: You can Special Summon 1 Level 4 or lower Plant-Type monster from your Deck in face-up Defense Position, and if you do, you can only Special Summon 1 more monster this turn. A Dragon-Type Synchro Monster that used this card as a Synchro Material cannot be destroyed or targeted by card effects until the end of this turn. If there are no cards on the field, you can Special Summon this card (from your Graveyard). If summoned this way, banish this card when it leaves the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saiba Aisu Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 I think you've come up with a nice card here, especially one that supports Black Rose Dragon and manages to keep it on the field to profit from its field-clearing ability. The last part of the card, which lets her revive from the Graveyard, seems a bit random though. And when you consider the fact that she has fairly high ATK for a Level 4 Tuner, well... Again, it's a nice card, but I would be wary of anything that lets me pull Lonefire Blossom from the Deck so easily. The picture is suitable, of course, but maybe a bit overused, and the quality isn't the best. Still, overall, nice job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razzy Posted June 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 Thanks for the feedback. And yeah the last effect is kinda random. Its on there because I originally (still might) make more black rose support. I think I will tone the attack done a bit. While it can get Lonefire easily I tried to handle that in a different way, but allowing only 1 more Special Summon after you summon the Lonefire. So it allows some versatility by either grabbing Lonefire and going for a Black Rose Dragon play or using Lonefire's effect to get a bigger Plant from Deck, but by during so you've used your 1 additional ss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Saiba Aisu Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 I love the new version! The ATK seems more balanced and when she's banished, it helps replenish hand-advantage (since that is one of the biggest problems with summoning Black Rose Dragon, she takes a lot of resources even though her nuke ability is great). Nice to see some more support for the "Rose" Archetype :) Now, using her effect when banished, would she be able to fetch another copy of herself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razzy Posted June 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 Thanks! I didn't want its atk to be so low if its effect gets stopped by something like Effect Veiler it is a "sitting duck", but the old version was a bit high. As it is worded now she will be able to add a copy of herself when banished. Not sure how I feel about this. So some input would be nice.To me it seems okay, since if your opponent banishes it (with something like Bottomless), you can grab another copy and go for it again next turn, while at the same time your opponent will have enough information and time to set something else up and try to stop. The effect also helps with a search if it is banished from Black Rose's 2nd effect. Yes Black Rose has 2 effects :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 Why on earth are you all praising this instant BRD nuke of a card? Better yet, why are you all praising this insanely good Aromage support, especially when the "you can only summon 1 more monster this turn doesn't even hinder Aromages, at all? This into Jasmine into any other Aromage is too much for one card just for you not wanting to commit to the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saiba Aisu Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 Aromages haven't been released yet, technically... As for concerns about abuse with Jasmine, your Life Points need to be higher than the opponent's for her to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 Aromages haven't been released yet, technically... As for concerns about abuse with Jasmine, your Life Points need to be higher than the opponent's for her to work. So what if they haven't been released in the TCG yet? The fact that they exist make this card insane support for Aromages / Plants in general that they do not need, as Plants already have Lonefire Blossom (which is @3). And it's not hard at all to get your Life Points higher than your opponents, especially when the deck itself is a stun deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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