evil cucumber Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 WIND Winged-Beast/EffectLevel 4 ATK-1000/DEF-1600When this card is Summoned: You can make all face-up Level 5 or higher monsters you currently control become Level 4. Hello there. No pic bc im on phone :d Bringing this up to discuss mainly because of Cydra Infinity. A long time ago i used to mix shaddolls with HB's (Leo and this). I could say Lavalval Chain was the best xyz in there, however the deck lacked some power xyz plays. Having in mind that Leo is a really good card (be it for xyz'ing or making shek) I found place for Berners in shaddoll because using their bosses for xyz's adds a special speed that may come useful for reciclyng the fusion spells. (Sure, the banning of Lavalval hurt the deck, but hopefully Infinity may stand up for it.) Here are some possible good play ideas: -Instant Fusion into Winda, then Summon Falcon to make Winda become Lvl 4. Xyz then detach the el shaddoll to bring a shaddoll spell from graveyard. (of course you could also go the norden way to revive something like HB Leo. Only problem there is extra deck space) -Since this deck has various Levels, you can use Message in the Bottle once you filled the grave with some el shaddolls, then go for Berners. That may be the easiest way for making Infinity, and of course, you would still get the float effs. May be a little hard to pull against heavy backrows. Other specific plays would revolve around some heraldry cards that summon Heraldics from grave. So what do you think, makes sense or its not that good in practice? Do you think this card could be useful for anothr decks too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 This always stood fout for me as the black sheep in Heraldic Beasts because its effect is useless in the pure build. In the anime it could treat Xyz as Level 4 as well, and if this could do that it might be cool for shenanigans, but its uses are limited as is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 It was, ar the very least, a considerable tech for rulers in Dragons v Books format, because it made shock bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 It was, ar the very least, a considerable tech for rulers in Dragons v Books format, because it made shock bastard.I never saw that tech actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 LOLOLOLOLOLSummon Onucu/Lilith drop this summon another noid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 Yeah, this was the weirdest of the Heraldic Beasts, because it just doesn't fit with the rest of the archetype. Basilisk is another weird one, but that at least has a use. Berner's only is useful if...you're not running Heraldics normally. But I have heard Berner gets some points for being a WIND and Winged-Beast, which can make Chidori and Zerofyne, so there's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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