Yu-gi-oh Dude Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 My attempt to change Black Rose Dragon from a nuke to a strong beater. It's probably not that good, but I'm sure you'll let me know that anyway c: Activate if there is a face-up "Rose Token" on the field and 1 or more "Black Garden" in your Graveyard. If you control a "Black Rose Dragon" this card cannot be destroyed by card effects. When this card is activated: Each player sends cards from the top of their respective decks equal to the number of "Rose Token" on the field. Special Summon 1 "Black Rose Dragon" from your Extra Deck. Its effect becomes: "You can banish 3 Plant-Type monsters from your Graveyard, then target 1 Defense Position monster your opponent controls; change that target to face-up Attack Position, and if you do, its ATK becomes 0 until the end of this turn. Increase this card's ATK by the number of "Rose Token" on the field x 300. Banish this card during the End Phase of the turn that it was Special Summoned by the effect of "Black Rose Undergrowth". If this card is sent to the field to the Graveyard, you may add 1 "Black Garden" to your hand from your Graveyard." CnC c: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebuchet MS Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 If your card text is forced to shrink to a very tiny font size, maybe you should truncate your card a little. You may only Activate this card if there is at least one face-up "Rose Token" (Plant-Type/DARK/Level 2/ATK 800/DEF 800) on the field and 1 or more "Black Garden" in your Graveyard. As long as there is If you control a "Black Rose Dragon" on your side of the field, this card cannot be destroyed by card effects. Each player sends cards from the top of their respective decks equal to the number of "Rose Token" on the field. Special Summon 1 "Black Rose Dragon" from your Extra Deck. Its effect becomes [REST OF CARD CORRECTION INTERRUPTED] Okay, okay, if you want to completely modify an existing card's effect, why not make an alternate version of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yu-gi-oh Dude Posted August 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Alright, I've changed the correction as far as you've done it. I understand what you're saying, but my intention was to make a card that could change Black Rose Dragon from being used as a nuke to a competitive beater without being too OP. So, I took out the nuke effect, made the other effect a little harder to achieve and then made it actually worth summoning instead of going minus for a card that does the exact same thing. I could have easily made a whole new card but I wanted to take this angle on it. Thanks for your criticism though, it honestly helps me a lot c: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebuchet MS Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 I feel that a card that entirely modifies an effect while having its own effects results in the card being a tad too wordy. Splitting the composite card would be a more efficient way to do things. By the way, when does that mill effect trigger? The moment the card enters the field, or as the controller wills it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yu-gi-oh Dude Posted August 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 I feel that a card that entirely modifies an effect while having its own effects results in the card being a tad too wordy. Splitting the composite card would be a more efficient way to do things. By the way, when does that mill effect trigger? The moment the card enters the field, or as the controller wills it? Yeah, I totally get what you mean. Uhh, the way I envisioned it, it would be as soon as the card hits the field. The way that I worded it, I hoped that it would be interpreted as such, as the Special Summon clause comes after the mill. Should I make that more clear? If it was as the controller wills it, I'd have made the most broken mill card in ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebuchet MS Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Yes, you should add a "When this card is activated:" phrase before the mill trigger to completely clarify when it happens. It's a no-brainer for Normal or Quick-Play, but with cards that stay on the field after resolving, this phrase is necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yu-gi-oh Dude Posted August 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 Alright, will do c: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathdragonv2 Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 Okay, first of all this is a really long effect, I had to read it a few times to even make sense of it. This card certainly requires quite a bit of set up and it makes me wonder if there would be room for it in a deck. and by forcing your opponent to excavate cards you could be helping them. The effect of Black rose is strong when this card is in place, the only thing I worry a little about is Black rose is strong anyway. Its certainly creative and changing a monster effect is a pretty interesting effect but I'm not really sure the set up is worth the pay off. Here's what I would do but it's just an opinion. Activate if there is a face-up "Rose Token" on the field and 1 or more "Black Garden" in your Graveyard. Special Summon a Black Rose Dragon from your Extra Deck. As long as this card and Black Rose Dragon remains on the field Black rose Dragon and Plant-Type monsters you control cannot be targeted by card effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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