When will the US fall?

[Kaitou Kid]

1.If thats the case everytime we heat up our burito we are getting energy

2.I wonder if we could produce energy out of water.....O WAIT we can!So U.S why dont you start thinking of that.

[Chaos Pudding]

1.If thats the case everytime we heat up our burito we are getting energy

2.I wonder if we could produce energy out of water.....O WAIT we can!So U.S why dont you start thinking of that.

 

Shut up about things you don't even have the smallest understanding of.

[Draco Straybyrn]

1.If thats the case everytime we heat up our burito we are getting energy

2.I wonder if we could produce energy out of water.....O WAIT we can!So U.S why dont you start thinking of that.

 

Shut up about things you don't even have the smallest understanding of.

 

Emphasis quote is emphasizing.

[Static]

US is falling' date=' if the third world countries unite, god knows what could happen. We here in the Middle East have a large amount of Oil and other Natural Resources yet to be discovered. if the countries actually stop fighting over stuff that happened 50-100 years ago and think of what they can do know, USA will be pwned. Russia is gaining power again, yay but crap Russian is too hard for me to learn. China's Economy is also rising which will also make it a threat, and a damn big one. And Static is so right about what could happen if Russia and China unite. i believe somewhere within the next 20-25 years.

 

Oh and please, can noobs realize this is a debate and stop spamming. If you don't have anything to add to the debate to make it more interesting/productive then just don't come and post your opinions.

[/quote']

 

After this, the thread went downhill.

 

CD knows whats going to happen inevitably. The US, because it is based on free market economics rather than having a government controlled market, is eventually going to drive most of its citizens into the lack of ability to have more than the basic needs. It's army is failing, because of the recent war and the wars that we are going to be involved with in the future* are/going to lower our # of trained soldiers, and with the imminent threat of other nations rising in power, nations with better systems like China and Russia, we are simply not going to be enough when these nations realize that we need to be eliminated for them to become super powers.

 

* The only way the US economy will be saved is by Annexing Iraq. If we do that, we will have to eventually go to war with Iran, and thus a future war is a huge possibility. Realistically, it seems like the US is setting up another Puppet Democracy in Iraq like it did all over the Latino colonies in Central and South America, and just export huge amounts of their natural resources whilst over charging for their own. (as is the US's natural policy with Third and Fourth World Countries)

 

@NP Sage: You know whats up, but your not explaining it correctly.

@Pika: Another ignorant American, and by no means a surprise to me either. Oil, regardless of how useful it is to the human body, is actually more important to our market than agriculture. It's f*cked up, but it is the truth.

@pudding: It is possible we will become a new nation, but once it is not a capitalistic democracy, then it is not the "United States" as we know it, and in my eyes, the "essence" in the US will have "fallen" once those key parts about our government change, and that is what I meant by the name of this topic.

@ashje: Post under yours by Lord Wyhe explains why you are wrong.

@Draco: Porposing Socialism is not really a point, its something that I was trying to do by creating this thread, by stating that Capitalism HAS to fail, because of how poor a system it is.

 

All men are created equal. Why don't we start acting like it.

 

I strongly disagree. All men are most certainly not created equal. Some are more powerful' date=' some are smarter, some are more beautiful.

[/quote']

 

As I said, all that means you got lucky in the genetic lottery. Lets say you diden't get lucky, does that mean you deserve to live life fighting uphill?

 

You finally show some intelligence!

 

The answer to your question is yes.

 

And for that, I would have killed you on the spot if we were in boot camp together you disgusting piece of sh*t. You are in the simplest of terms, wrong.

 

So what do you think would work' date=' PikaPerson01?

I suppose the abolishment of all monetary systems would work.

[/quote']

 

Easy. An alternative energy source, like cheap reliable solar, would solve a huge chunk of the global economic problems. Develop a way to effectively transmit energy through microwaves, and you can have solar power plants orbiting, so the sun is always in view.

 

No, to root this problem out, we have to go to the source, the problems with Human nature. We need to cleanse our gene pool.

[Chaos Pudding]

All men are created equal. Why don't we start acting like it.

 

I strongly disagree. All men are most certainly not created equal. Some are more powerful' date=' some are smarter, some are more beautiful.

[/quote']

 

As I said, all that means you got lucky in the genetic lottery. Lets say you diden't get lucky, does that mean you deserve to live life fighting uphill?

 

You finally show some intelligence!

 

The answer to your question is yes.

 

And for that, I would have killed you on the spot if we were in boot camp together you disgusting piece of s***. You are in the simplest of terms, wrong.

 

Prove that all men are created equal.

So what do you think would work' date=' PikaPerson01?

I suppose the abolishment of all monetary systems would work.

[/quote']

 

Easy. An alternative energy source, like cheap reliable solar, would solve a huge chunk of the global economic problems. Develop a way to effectively transmit energy through microwaves, and you can have solar power plants orbiting, so the sun is always in view.

 

No, to root this problem out, we have to go to the source, the problems with Human nature. We need to cleanse our gene pool.

 

Prove that finding an alternate energy source would not solve the problem for the foreseeable future.

[NP Sage]

Agreed.

 

The sad thing is that all American politicians are too damn busy trying to make their approval rating go up to fix the actual problems. Thank you Organized Religion. :roll:

 

I DON'T care if homosexuals want to get married.

 

I DON'T care if Mr. Preacher thinks movies and video games are too violent.

 

I DON'T care if teens are having casual sex. As long as their having safe sex, WHO GIVES A funk? I do want to know why you care that complete strangers are having sex. Pervert

 

I DON'T are if two religions do not get along. They have/are/will fight. Let one wipe out the other.

 

Fix your own countries problems, and keep them fixed.

[Static]

All men are created equal. Why don't we start acting like it.

 

I strongly disagree. All men are most certainly not created equal. Some are more powerful' date=' some are smarter, some are more beautiful.

[/quote']

 

As I said, all that means you got lucky in the genetic lottery. Lets say you diden't get lucky, does that mean you deserve to live life fighting uphill?

 

You finally show some intelligence!

 

The answer to your question is yes.

 

And for that, I would have killed you on the spot if we were in boot camp together you disgusting piece of s***. You are in the simplest of terms, wrong.

 

Prove that all men are created equal.

So what do you think would work' date=' PikaPerson01?

I suppose the abolishment of all monetary systems would work.

[/quote']

 

Easy. An alternative energy source, like cheap reliable solar, would solve a huge chunk of the global economic problems. Develop a way to effectively transmit energy through microwaves, and you can have solar power plants orbiting, so the sun is always in view.

 

No, to root this problem out, we have to go to the source, the problems with Human nature. We need to cleanse our gene pool.

 

Prove that finding an alternate energy source would not solve the problem for the foreseeable future.

 

Learn to read. Men aren't created equal, I'd be the first one to advocate that, but should be treated equally regardless.

 

And the alternative energy source is only going to fix our economy, its not going to fix our gene pool from having ignorant selfish people who are going to try and reap benefit from our market anyway. The energy source will help the economy, but it will not help humanity (and I don't mean our lives materialistically, I mean what kind of people we let live and let affect our lives) as a whole.

 

Agreed.

 

The sad thing is that all American politicians are too damn busy trying to make their approval rating go up to fix the actual problems. Thank you Organized Religion. :roll:

 

I DON'T care if homosexuals want to get married.

 

I DON'T care if Mr. Preacher thinks movies and video games are too violent.

 

I DON'T care if teens are having casual sex. As long as their having safe sex' date=' WHO GIVES A f***? I do want to know why you care that complete strangers are having sex. Pervert[b'][1][/b]

 

I DON'T are if two religions get along. They have/are/will fight. Let one wipe out the other.[2]

 

Fix your own countries problems, and keep them fixed.

 

1. Religion is the problem here, ethics are failing when they become too strict.

 

2. That's what I'm saying, regardless of how much I like the idea of treating people equally, there are some that cause society to not function, certain personalities and beliefs, and simply put, they need to be removed.

 

If we actually could fix our own countries, and fix our ethics, we wouldn't have the problem we have now.

[Chaos Pudding]

Learn to read. Men aren't created equal' date=' I'd be the first one to advocate that, but should be treated equally regardless.

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Why? If we are ever to evolve beyond what we are as a species, we need to weed out the poorer bits through "survival of the fittest".

And the alternative energy source is only going to fix our economy' date=' its not going to fix our gene pool from having ignorant selfish people who are going to try and reap benefit from our market anyway. The energy source will help the economy, but it will not help humanity (and I don't mean our lives materialistically, I mean what kind of people we let live and let affect our lives) as a whole.

[/quote']

 

Why wouldn't it help humanity? Solar power is a totally inexhaustible source of energy (for all practical purposes). The majority of the problems with the world are directly caused by the scarcity of our all-important energy source, oil, and the people who control it.

 

Also, you just proved my former point.

[Arekku_Koro]

Hopefully note in my lifetime. My optimism leads me to believe that we can all get along. But why would I care, I'm going to Japan.

[NP Sage]

Exactly.

 

Certain people are screwing up the whole system. Either

{A} Kill them.

{B} Sterilize them so they don't breed.

 

Treat anybody who is intelligent and contributes the same. I'm sure a homeless man has contributed {and is smarter} than most Actors. Yet the actors are allowed to sit and moch, while the man when given the means could contribute far more.

 

Look at Paris Hilton. What has she done to help society?

[Static]

Learn to read. Men aren't created equal' date=' I'd be the first one to advocate that, but should be treated equally regardless.

[/quote']

 

Why? If we are ever to evolve beyond what we are as a species, we need to weed out the poorer bits through "survival of the fittest".

 

 

And the alternative energy source is only going to fix our economy' date=' its not going to fix our gene pool from having ignorant selfish people who are going to try and reap benefit from our market anyway. The energy source will help the economy, but it will not help humanity (and I don't mean our lives materialistically, I mean what kind of people we let live and let affect our lives) as a whole.

[/quote']

 

Why wouldn't it help humanity? Solar power is a totally inexhaustible source of energy (for all practical purposes). The majority of the problems with the world are directly caused by the scarcity of our all-important energy source, oil, and the people who control it.

 

Also, you just proved my former point.

 

From your perspective on your former point, I agree, however, I am looking at human kind as how we act rather than how we live. Thus, for all intended purposes, I agree with you, but the implication I thought you were getting at is where I disagreed.

 

First issue: I said we should either KILL the poorer bits, or let them be treated equally. Our race is "better" when its members will not let other members suffer, or at least try. Putting one out of its misery is "better" than letting it suffer, and letting one live as an equal is "better" than that.

 

Ethics are opinions, if you want to sit here and argue opinions, be my guest, because I honestly don't care.

[Chaos Pudding]

Exactly.

 

Certain people are screwing up the whole system. Either

{A} Kill them.

{B} Sterilize them so they don't breed.

 

Treat anybody who is intelligent and contributes the same. I'm sure a homeless man has contributed {and is smarter} than most Actors. Yet the actors are allowed to sit and moch' date=' while the man when given the means could contribute far more.

 

Look at Paris Hilton. What has she done to help society?

[/quote']

 

Generalizations don't help anyone. The majority of actors have contributed to society in profound ways, namely the advancement of the arts.

 

Luck plays a role in life. I'm not saying that if you are smart, powerful (physically), and/or beautiful you are guaranteed a good spot in society. It doesn't hurt, but luck has a large part in it. You can never eliminate luck, so why try?

 

From your perspective on your former point' date=' I agree, however, I am looking at human kind as how we act rather than how we live. Thus, for all intended purposes, I agree with you, but the implication I thought you were getting at is where I disagreed.

 

First issue: I said we should either KILL the poorer bits, or let them be treated equally. Our race is "better" when its members will not let other members suffer, or at least try. Putting one out of its misery is "better" than letting it suffer, and letting one live as an equal is "better" than that.

 

Ethics are opinions, if you want to sit here and argue opinions, be my guest, because I honestly don't care.

[/quote']

 

Well, at least we agree about the base issue. I, also, don't wish to argue ethics, so I'm going to let the discussion be ended.

[Static]

Exactly.

 

Certain people are screwing up the whole system. Either

{A} Kill them.

{B} Sterilize them so they don't breed.

 

Treat anybody who is intelligent and contributes the same. I'm sure a homeless man has contributed {and is smarter} than most Actors. Yet the actors are allowed to sit and moch' date=' while the man when given the means could contribute far more.

 

Look at Paris Hilton. What has she done to help society?

[/quote']

 

Generalizations don't help anyone. The majority of actors have contributed to society in profound ways, namely the advancement of the arts.

 

Luck plays a role in life. I'm not saying that if you are smart, powerful (physically), and/or beautiful you are guaranteed a good spot in society. It doesn't hurt, but luck has a large part in it. You can never eliminate luck, so why try?

 

From your perspective on your former point' date=' I agree, however, I am looking at human kind as how we act rather than how we live. Thus, for all intended purposes, I agree with you, but the implication I thought you were getting at is where I disagreed.

 

First issue: I said we should either KILL the poorer bits, or let them be treated equally. Our race is "better" when its members will not let other members suffer, or at least try. Putting one out of its misery is "better" than letting it suffer, and letting one live as an equal is "better" than that.

 

Ethics are opinions, if you want to sit here and argue opinions, be my guest, because I honestly don't care.

[/quote']

 

Well, at least we agree about the base issue. I, also, don't wish to argue ethics, so I'm going to let the discussion be ended.

 

I respect your decision to end this, so I will stop there concerning opinion.

[NP Sage]

Exactly.

 

Certain people are screwing up the whole system. Either

{A} Kill them.

{B} Sterilize them so they don't breed.

 

Treat anybody who is intelligent and contributes the same. I'm sure a homeless man has contributed {and is smarter} than most Actors. Yet the actors are allowed to sit and moch' date=' while the man when given the means could contribute far more.

 

Look at Paris Hilton. What has she done to help society?

[/quote']

 

Generalizations don't help anyone. The majority of actors have contributed to society in profound ways, namely the advancement of the arts.

 

:roll: I would hardly call 90% of the movies coming out anymore "Art".

 

 

Luck plays a role in life. I'm not saying that if you are smart, powerful (physically), and/or beautiful you are guaranteed a good spot in society. It doesn't hurt, but luck has a large part in it. You can never eliminate luck, so why try?

 

 

 

From your perspective on your former point' date=' I agree, however, I am looking at human kind as how we act rather than how we live. Thus, for all intended purposes, I agree with you, but the implication I thought you were getting at is where I disagreed.

 

First issue: I said we should either KILL the poorer bits, or let them be treated equally. Our race is "better" when its members will not let other members suffer, or at least try. Putting one out of its misery is "better" than letting it suffer, and letting one live as an equal is "better" than that.

 

[b']Yeah[/b]

 

Ethics are opinions, if you want to sit here and argue opinions, be my guest, because I honestly don't care.

 

Well, at least we agree about the base issue. I, also, don't wish to argue ethics, so I'm going to let the discussion be ended.

 

I too will let it go.

[Static]

Exactly.

 

Certain people are screwing up the whole system. Either

{A} Kill them.

{B} Sterilize them so they don't breed.

 

Treat anybody who is intelligent and contributes the same. I'm sure a homeless man has contributed {and is smarter} than most Actors. Yet the actors are allowed to sit and moch' date=' while the man when given the means could contribute far more.

 

Look at Paris Hilton. What has she done to help society?

[/quote']

 

Generalizations don't help anyone. The majority of actors have contributed to society in profound ways, namely the advancement of the arts.

 

:roll: I would hardly call 90% of the movies coming out anymore "Art".

 

 

Luck plays a role in life. I'm not saying that if you are smart, powerful (physically), and/or beautiful you are guaranteed a good spot in society. It doesn't hurt, but luck has a large part in it. You can never eliminate luck, so why try?

 

 

 

From your perspective on your former point' date=' I agree, however, I am looking at human kind as how we act rather than how we live. Thus, for all intended purposes, I agree with you, but the implication I thought you were getting at is where I disagreed.

 

First issue: I said we should either KILL the poorer bits, or let them be treated equally. Our race is "better" when its members will not let other members suffer, or at least try. Putting one out of its misery is "better" than letting it suffer, and letting one live as an equal is "better" than that.

 

Ethics are opinions, if you want to sit here and argue opinions, be my guest, because I honestly don't care.

[/quote']

 

Well, at least we agree about the base issue. I, also, don't wish to argue ethics, so I'm going to let the discussion be ended.

 

Luck does not exist.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Determinism

[Chaos Pudding]

Exactly.

 

Certain people are screwing up the whole system. Either

{A} Kill them.

{B} Sterilize them so they don't breed.

 

Treat anybody who is intelligent and contributes the same. I'm sure a homeless man has contributed {and is smarter} than most Actors. Yet the actors are allowed to sit and moch' date=' while the man when given the means could contribute far more.

 

Look at Paris Hilton. What has she done to help society?

[/quote']

 

Generalizations don't help anyone. The majority of actors have contributed to society in profound ways, namely the advancement of the arts.

 

:roll: I would hardly call 90% of the movies coming out anymore "Art".

 

 

Luck plays a role in life. I'm not saying that if you are smart, powerful (physically), and/or beautiful you are guaranteed a good spot in society. It doesn't hurt, but luck has a large part in it. You can never eliminate luck, so why try?

 

 

 

From your perspective on your former point' date=' I agree, however, I am looking at human kind as how we act rather than how we live. Thus, for all intended purposes, I agree with you, but the implication I thought you were getting at is where I disagreed.

 

First issue: I said we should either KILL the poorer bits, or let them be treated equally. Our race is "better" when its members will not let other members suffer, or at least try. Putting one out of its misery is "better" than letting it suffer, and letting one live as an equal is "better" than that.

 

Ethics are opinions, if you want to sit here and argue opinions, be my guest, because I honestly don't care.

[/quote']

 

Well, at least we agree about the base issue. I, also, don't wish to argue ethics, so I'm going to let the discussion be ended.

 

Luck does not exist.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Determinism

 

However, probability does.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Probability

[Static]

Conflicting philosophy does not compute.... OH NOES!

 

All things that are going to happen will happen. Probability is a thought, so that we can determine our actions based on what we think the future will hold, but in the end, the one possible outcome is what is going to happen, no matter how predictable.

[NP Sage]

Probability means little. That something is predetermined makes more sense and also explains why something that was so unlikely yet still happened.

[Static]

Probability means little. That something is predetermined makes more sense and also explains why something that was so unlikely yet still happened.

 

Deteriminism 1, Free Will and Probablility as realism 0. WOO!

[Catterjune]

Lol @ this topic, and everyone in it.

[Chaos Pudding]

Lol @ this topic' date=' and everyone in it.

[/quote']

 

lol @ your face.

[NP Sage]

Probability means little. That something is predetermined makes more sense and also explains why something that was so unlikely yet still happened.

 

Deteriminism 1' date=' Free Will and Probablility as realism 0. WOO!

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Deteriminism 1, Free Will and Probablility as realism 0

PWNED!

 

The thread goes to Static and I

:P

[Catterjune]

Lol @ this topic' date=' and everyone in it.

[/quote']

 

lol @ your face.

 

That hurt my soul...

 

Also! Yay! You have 1400 posts now!

[Static]

Lol @ this topic' date=' and everyone in it.

[/quote']

 

Lol at you. Out of all the people in this topic, you made the most laughable posts, the most incorrect statements, and held the most flawed philosophy and ethical opinions.

[Chaos Pudding]

Probability means little. That something is predetermined makes more sense and also explains why something that was so unlikely yet still happened.

 

Deteriminism 1' date=' Free Will and Probablility as realism 0. WOO!

[/quote']

 

Deteriminism 1, Free Will and Probablility as realism 0

PWNED!

 

The thread goes to Static and I

:P

 

Prove it. Prove that determinism exists while at the same time free will and probability do not.