Reform Society. (WARNING: Children should avoid)

[Static]

I will first off prewarn everyone, the ideal's presented in this rant/argument are very, very dangerous if interperted the wrong way. If you think of this as something rather horrible, perceive it more as an ideal reform than a possible and literal change. Seriously, DO NOT READ IF YOU do not at least understand something about Genocide, Statism, or Ideal Communism. THIS IS NOT A NEO FASCIST ARTICLE.

 

Genocide can be effective, useful to eliminate people of bad genetics, lower the ever increasing earths population, and it would sure save us a lot of prison space.

 

Why is murder condemned?

 

Because our society sees it as "wrong" and we put a ban on the action, YET, WE STILL WAR. Its as if laws only apply to second class monkeys. We claim the right to life, and yet we can be sent to our deaths, instead of denying people the right to life. Of course, it is ensured so that people don't live in more fear than the government wants people to feel (fear of criminal action, but not fear to be alive). The problem is, because we ensure freedom of life and liberties in this forsaken country, we cannot remove its problems without taking the issue to a fair trial. Democracy fails, because important executive decisions that would benefit the majority can be denied by the WEAK who care about others, and view the physically disabled, terminally ill, and retired elderly as deserving of life when they are just wasting the resources that could be used for the working, society benefiting proletariat.

 

To establish a better society for the whole, we need to remove the things that plague it. Religion, the biggest plague, needs to be banned, and anyone who will speak outright against this action should be destroyed with the religion, so no glory of such lies can be passed on, and to ensure that a unified knowledge of truth is kept in tact. We need to ban Capital punishment as a means of punishment, and use death for removing bad gene's instead of misguided individuals. We need to give everyone the right to speak (with some exceptions), the right to have as much TRUE, REAL power as the next man, and the right for those to never be altered. The killing of animals that produce Red meat should be banned, as red meat causes cancer (statistics to prove can be provided) and all forms of growth hormones (non human) should be banned, to ensure general public health. We would need to create a closed, tightly controlled economy, one that literally would give all money to the government, and have the government ration the money to the people evenly, to ensure equality. Infantacide should not be frowned upon if a child is born with something that would make them unable to contribute to society. Abortion shall be legalized, and the idea of marriage eliminated from societies standards. By that, I mean that marriages having an effect on your social status, or causing any non-personal effect on the individuals involved would not occur. If we can transform how we educate people, we can make perfection a reality. Tell them what perfect is, keep them unaware of the failing systems we have today, and we can ensure the survival of a never-failing system of human living for the whole, in equality, with looser ethics, and the knowing that no one else alive is better or worse than you, that classifications truly do not matter or affect anyone.

 

Discuss. Actually, counter me. I would prefer that.

 

EDIT: this appeared about 10-20 minutes after I posted it... Ugh xD

[HORUS]

In all honesty, I cannot see any way I could possibly counter that.

 

Your statement is exactly correct.

 

As I read it, I could not help agreeing with everything you said.

 

Cleansing of the gene pool is top priority along with the abolition of relgion. Society would be unbelievably better off without religion, of course.

 

I wholly and truly agree with your full statement.

 

 

 

PS. I'm assuming this is going along with the single worldwide communist union with no currency and such-like?

[Static]

Of course, with freedom only limited where it needs to be.

 

It is true that liberty is precious; so precious that it must be carefully rationed.

[HORUS]

Liberty must be given only to three types of men.

 

The Intellectual

The Capable

The Hard-Working

[Static]

Life and Liberty must be given only to three types of men.

 

The Intellectual

The Capable

The Hard-Working

 

Fixed.

 

And to women as well? /sarcasm

[Draco Straybyrn]

Life and Liberty must be given only to three types of men.

 

The Intellectual

The Capable

The Hard-Working

 

Fixed.

 

And to women as well? /sarcasm

 

There aren't really any counters to this, let alone people smart enough to counter it.

 

My congratulations to you.

[Static]

Life and Liberty must be given only to three types of men.

 

The Intellectual

The Capable

The Hard-Working

 

Fixed.

 

And to women as well? /sarcasm

 

There aren't really any counters to this' date=' let alone people smart enough to counter it.

 

My congratulations to you.

[/quote']

 

Thank you sir, if your going to make 2 threads a day on YCM reform, I might as well put up a Social reform thread once a week. xD

[Draco Straybyrn]

Life and Liberty must be given only to three types of men.

 

The Intellectual

The Capable

The Hard-Working

 

Fixed.

 

And to women as well? /sarcasm

 

There aren't really any counters to this' date=' let alone people smart enough to counter it.

 

My congratulations to you.

[/quote']

 

Thank you sir, if your going to make 2 threads a day on YCM reform, I might as well put up a Social reform thread once a week. xD

 

Rofl two a day.

 

Perhaps it's the only way to get something to happen...

 

Bleh.

 

I say let darwinism take effect.

[HORUS]

Life and Liberty must be given only to three types of men.

 

The Intellectual

The Capable

The Hard-Working

 

Fixed.

 

And to women as well? /sarcasm

 

Ah, yes. My mistake.

 

Women should be treated the same as men, for they are required for the continuation of the human race.

[Static]

Life and Liberty must be given only to three types of men.

 

The Intellectual

The Capable

The Hard-Working

 

Fixed.

 

And to women as well? /sarcasm

 

There aren't really any counters to this' date=' let alone people smart enough to counter it.

 

My congratulations to you.

[/quote']

 

Thank you sir, if your going to make 2 threads a day on YCM reform, I might as well put up a Social reform thread once a week. xD

 

Rofl two a day.

 

Perhaps it's the only way to get something to happen...

 

Bleh.

 

I say let darwinism take effect.

 

So your saying let the strongest have the most power?

 

No, every man should have equal wealth and power, given independant of his genetic make up or the background of his origin.

[cyberdude]

Wow static just wow you have once again change my view on the world

Genecide can be helpful and productive in effectively getting rid of the unwanted folk of society (e.g criminals) but honestly lets get to one of the main cores of the issue. According to darwin the right to life belongs to the strongest and smartest. Should we as homosapiens keep the ones alive that will down us in the fight for surivial should we as human beings sacrifice space for the inorrgent and weak or should we cast them aside for the people that can thrive in this world

[HORUS]

Cyberdude, you are a dolt.

[Guest Chaos Pudding]

Life and Liberty must be given only to three types of men.

 

The Intellectual

The Capable

The Hard-Working

 

Fixed.

 

And to women as well? /sarcasm

 

There aren't really any counters to this' date=' let alone people smart enough to counter it.

 

My congratulations to you.

[/quote']

 

Thank you sir, if your going to make 2 threads a day on YCM reform, I might as well put up a Social reform thread once a week. xD

 

Rofl two a day.

 

Perhaps it's the only way to get something to happen...

 

Bleh.

 

I say let darwinism take effect.

 

So your saying let the strongest have the most power?

 

No, every man should have equal wealth and power, given independant of his genetic make up or the background of his origin.

 

Why? Luck is an integral facet in survival. If you weren't lucky enough to be born strong, why be given the chance to infect the next generation with your inferior genes?

[Fh-Fh]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Giver

 

Read it. It's good.

 

About your post, here, here. Religion was probably invented as a way to keep people together (Ex) Mormonism), but backfired when people took it too far, Ex) Religious persecution during mideival, and the war in Iraq. I on't think Mohammed would have wanted the country he converted t0o tear itself apart just because they can't decide something (which isn't really the case, they just use that as a reason). And Jesus probably didn't want people dying because they didn't think the same thing he did.

[Cyber Altair]

religion was a joke used by people who wanted to achieve power by using human beings ignorance against them. yes, people believed it and there was no way to stop them.

 

I truly believe each man should have equal rights, wealth and power. just because someone is lucky doesn't mean that he deserves more power or wealth then the unlucky ones. Survival for the fittest ain't gonna help, it is what will destroy humans and the advancements we have achieved.

[Guest Supreme Gamesmaster]

The above said it all. Luck and chance won't help anyone, it'll destroy humanity. We need to eliminate chance as much as possible when it comes to rights. And thinning out the population some wouldn't hurt, either. Complete equality is necessary, and if we have to wipe out a few billion people to get it, oh well, right? I don't even care if I were killed for equality of the human race. It is integral to survival.

 

Mddw, I've read The Giver, and it answers a lot of questions. Equality without harshness is absolutely necessary. Independence and freedom must be carefully balanced with equality and brotherhood. Let there be no one less fortunate attempting to steal from the stingy, lucky ones.

[Mikaeo]

I will first off prewarn everyone' date=' the ideal's presented in this rant/argument are very, very dangerous if interperted the wrong way. If you think of this as something rather horrible, perceive it more as an ideal reform than a possible and literal change. Seriously, DO NOT READ IF YOU do not at least understand something about Genocide, Statism, or Ideal Communism. THIS IS NOT A NEO FASCIST ARTICLE.

 

Genocide can be effective, useful to eliminate people of bad genetics, lower the ever increasing earths population, and it would sure save us a lot of prison space.

 

Why is murder condemned?

 

Because our society sees it as "wrong" and we put a ban on the action, YET, WE STILL WAR. Its as if laws only apply to second class monkeys. We claim the right to life, and yet we can be sent to our deaths, instead of denying people the right to life. Of course, it is ensured so that people don't live in more fear than the government wants people to feel (fear of criminal action, but not fear to be alive). The problem is, because we ensure freedom of life and liberties in this forsaken country, we cannot remove its problems without taking the issue to a fair trial. Democracy fails, because important executive decisions that would benefit the majority can be denied by the WEAK who care about others, and view the physically disabled, terminally ill, and retired elderly as deserving of life when they are just wasting the resources that could be used for the working, society benefiting proletariat.

 

To establish a better society for the whole, we need to remove the things that plague it. Religion, the biggest plague, needs to be banned, and anyone who will speak outright against this action should be destroyed with the religion, so no glory of such lies can be passed on, and to ensure that a unified knowledge of truth is kept in tact. We need to ban Capital punishment as a means of punishment, and use death for removing bad gene's instead of misguided individuals. We need to give everyone the right to speak (with some exceptions), the right to have as much TRUE, REAL power as the next man, and the right for those to never be altered. The killing of animals that produce Red meat should be banned, as red meat causes cancer (statistics to prove can be provided) and all forms of growth hormones (non human) should be banned, to ensure general public health. We would need to create a closed, tightly controlled economy, one that literally would give all money to the government, and have the government ration the money to the people evenly, to ensure equality. Infantacide should not be frowned upon if a child is born with something that would make them unable to contribute to society. Abortion shall be legalized, and the idea of marriage eliminated from societies standards. By that, I mean that marriages having an effect on your social status, or causing any non-personal effect on the individuals involved would not occur. If we can transform how we educate people, we can make perfection a reality. Tell them what perfect is, keep them unaware of the failing systems we have today, and we can ensure the survival of a never-failing system of human living for the whole, in equality, with looser ethics, and the knowing that no one else alive is better or worse than you, that classifications truly do not matter or affect anyone.

 

Discuss. Actually, counter me. I would prefer that.

 

EDIT: this appeared about 10-20 minutes after I posted it... Ugh xD

[/quote']

 

I would have to say i agree with some of this.

 

"...Abortion shall be legalized,...The killing of animals that produce Red meat should be banned, as red meat causes cancer (statistics to prove can be provided) and all forms of growth hormones (non human) should be banned,....."

 

I don't agree with the rest of it though.

 

Well, you cannot be easily countered with logic so I won't use "logic".

 

".....benefit the majority can be denied by the WEAK who care about others,..."

 

now I'm not saying you are cruel or a bad person for stating this but i must say i strongly disagree with you. I believe everyone has a right to life if they want it.

 

I also believe in god but not in e religious way because my beliefs would contradic any religion i would be in. I just believe everybody should be treated equally and fairly.

 

Now communism isnt a bad thing but i believe it should be a last resort, instead democracy Without corruption would be a better alternative.

 

now i havnt really put up a good argument but it would be much better in person.

 

also, i will respectively strongly disagree with most of your arguement. and trying to convince me it is correct is pointless. but i dont believe you are a bad person seeing as i havent met you.

[Proffesser Yugi]

oh my GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Lilrow]

I think the survival of the human race and life in general is futile, so why bother keeping the human race alive? I say, we try to enjoy to enjoy our lives as much as we can before they and the human race eventually end. If there is no human race, there is no suffering, and no concious thought to complain about it.

[Subc]

Hold on a second here ban red meat?????? why not ban all meat.

thats funny you say red gives you cancer i mean red meat is very good for your body and with some important nutrient's and Vitamin's and if you ban Red meat were will you get them.

 

Also you must understand diet is very improtant it's like cutting out Vegetable you miss out on very important substances.

 

Just to add i've been studing food non-stop for three years so please don't just ignore my post as it may seem like i have nothing to back up my post

[2sick4u]

Hold on a second here ban red meat?????? why not ban all meat.

thats funny you say red gives you cancer i mean red meat is very good for your body and with some important nutrient's and Vitamin's and if you ban Red meat were will you get them.

 

Also you must understand diet is very improtant it's like cutting out Vegetable you miss out on very important substances.

 

Just to add i've been studing food non-stop for three years so please don't just ignore my post as it may seem like i have nothing to back up my post

Subc.

You probably only believe that about red meat because of Tom Jones desperation for someone to put him into our living rooms' date=' unfortunately, again. So shut up unless you can speak for yourself. Also, i believe you've been studying food for 3 years, just from years 4-7, as i can nearly bet my earned money that's your age.

 

Also, your views on religion are kind of.. well, robotic?

As in..

 

"To establish a better society for the whole, we need to remove the things that plague it. Religion, the biggest plague, needs to be banned, and anyone who will speak outright against this action should be destroyed with the religion, so no glory of such lies can be passed on, and to ensure that a unified knowledge of truth is kept in tact.."

 

Your pretty much saying that if this did happen, those who disagree and believe in a higher power (such as god.) Will be destroyed, and i take it you mean kill. So, we either die, or become ignorant to our own beliefs and listen to your thoughts under threat of death. Religion, though a plague, is only viral in the sense that religions contradict one another so greatly. If i walked up to somebody with a dot on there forehead, assume there Hindu, and start preaching about Christianity, they'd take it as an insult, and either argue, fight, or be ignorant. Either way, conflict ensues. Conflicts such as war, needless fighting, caused by this. So yes; Religion being banned could be a solution, but doing so, presumably under your jurisdiction, will be in essence be what religion is. And that is, forcing other peoples beliefs to match your own. So no, war will still happen, lives being lost at the same rate. All the world needs is a balance of opinion, one which everyone can abide by without feeling tampered with. Since this will never happen, society is pretty much no longer repair plausible.

Just my opinion ='].

 

2sick~

[Subc]

Hold on a second here ban red meat?????? why not ban all meat.

thats funny you say red gives you cancer i mean red meat is very good for your body and with some important nutrient's and Vitamin's and if you ban Red meat were will you get them.

 

Also you must understand diet is very improtant it's like cutting out Vegetable you miss out on very important substances.

 

Just to add i've been studing food non-stop for three years so please don't just ignore my post as it may seem like i have nothing to back up my post

Subc.

You probably only believe that about red meat because of Tom Jones desperation for someone to put him into our living rooms' date=' unfortunately, again. So shut up unless you can speak for yourself. Also, i believe you've been studying food for 3 years, just from years 4-7, as i can nearly bet my earned money that's your age.

 

 

2sick~[/b']

 

 

..........erm sure i don't really care about your personal hit im finishing my third year in college now so why would i care about someone who's I.Q is less than third grader.

[2sick4u]

..........erm sure i don't really care about your personal hit im finishing my third year in college now so why would i care about someone who's I.Q is less than third grader.

Pfft. My I.Q's less then a third grader? I'm 100% sure a third grader would know Tom Jones as anymore than just the "Guy with the suit and the alien gun." If you are as old as you say you are; you are in effect insulting yourself. You're pretty much saying "This 15 year old kid can outsmart me in college." Good luck getting your degree. =].

(I'll edit out the "A" Word if YCm doesn't like it? =S.)

 

- Already done

[Subc]

..........erm sure i don't really care about your personal hit im finishing my third year in college now so why would i care about someone who's I.Q is less than third grader.

Pfft. My I.Q's less then a third grader? I'm 100% sure a third grader would know Tom Jones as anymore than just the "Guy with the suit and the alien gun." If you are as old as you say you are; you are in effect insulting yourself. You're pretty much saying "This 15 year old kid can outsmart me in college." Good luck getting your degree; Dumbass. =].

(I'll edit out the "A" Word if YCm doesn't like it? =S.)

 

My A-level is in the bag i just have to do my last section which will be done this wednesday thanks for caring XD. One thing bugs me tho your 15 and you know all about the in's and out's of an animal by that i mean down to the last atom? because I'm sure i don't know. If so then please help me out on something if red meat is so bad why has it not been banned wait hold on i got a better one why do you want red meat banned is it because you love animals?

 

To be honest it don't matter would you like to know why? well it's simple ban red meat then ban all meat so that we have to live on tablets is that good? the answer is no. People take extra vitamins and stuff because they do not eat the right stuff (O.k. not everyone that takes the tablets are on bad diets) I'm not saying lets kill everything and eat im just saying eat what you need not what you want.

 

So on closing 2sick4u I have my views you have your views but don't take hits on something because it hurts your feelings or because it's about something dying,

[2sick4u]

My A-level is in the bag i just have to do my last section which will be done this wednesday thanks for caring XD. One thing bugs me tho your 15 and you know all about the in's and out's of an animal by that i mean down to the last atom? because I'm sure i don't know. If so then please help me out on something if red meat is so bad why has it not been banned wait hold on i got a better one why do you want red meat banned is it because you love animals?

 

To be honest it don't matter would you like to know why? well it's simple ban red meat then ban all meat so that we have to live on tablets is that good? the answer is no. People take extra vitamins and stuff because they do not eat the right stuff (O.k. not everyone that takes the tablets are on bad diets) I'm not saying lets kill everything and eat im just saying eat what you need not what you want.

 

So on closing 2sick4u I have my views you have your views but don't take hits on something because it hurts your feelings or because it's about something dying' date='

[/quote']

uhh. What?..

When did i say i loved animals? Dude. It's either your gifted with your hands; which by your typing and grammer abilities, i can say your not, or your a pretty much full fledged retard. You assumed i liked animals, simply because i said meat shouldn't be eaten. Meat doesn't need to be eaten; Everything it provides can be found elsewhere? So no, i don't love animals, I just hate stupidity, which is why you don't get to stop this. *Reads more of your post* Why isn't it banned? You did say your studying food right? I have a year 8 home ec. education and know better. Also, the only tablet you'd need is an iron one, and people with iron deficiencies live off them just fine. People take vitamins for a stimulant or they don't like the food that provides it; not because there fat, as you were implying. "Im not saying eat everything" In fact, promoting the eating of red-meat is. Don't contradict yourself; it's stupid.

 

"So on closing.." What the heck? Your making a speech to me, with a conclusion. Pfft. Now i know your trying to act older. It doesn't hurt my feelings, if it did, i'd con you into sending me an e-mail, find out your address through it, and kick your 10 year old nuts in. So no, it didn't, it just annoyed me. Dying? I'm 15. What the heck part of dying would effect me. Get over yourself.

2sick~