Guest Chaos Pudding Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 The standings are 2 in favor of DAD, and 0 in favor of DDT. Why do you think this is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Because DAD goes off turn 2 and DDT goes off turn 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Because DAD goes off turn 2 and DDT goes off turn 3. But do you think that DDT could still be sped up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Because DAD goes off turn 2 and DDT goes off turn 3. But do you think that DDT could still be sped up? Only if it stops using Diamond Dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Because DAD goes off turn 2 and DDT goes off turn 3. But do you think that DDT could still be sped up? Only if it stops using Diamond Dude. What would replace Diamond Dude? I'm still thinking it would have to be a D-Hero or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Because DAD goes off turn 2 and DDT goes off turn 3. But do you think that DDT could still be sped up? Only if it stops using Diamond Dude. What would replace Diamond Dude? I'm still thinking it would have to be a D-Hero or something. I have no idea what, but Diamond Dude's effect requires you to wait a turn, which is far too long nowadays - especially if you plan on searching it with Stratos, in which case you can't benefit from his effect until Turn 3 (you know, the turn after DAD trampled you). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Because DAD goes off turn 2 and DDT goes off turn 3. But do you think that DDT could still be sped up? Only if it stops using Diamond Dude. What would replace Diamond Dude? I'm still thinking it would have to be a D-Hero or something. I have no idea what' date=' but Diamond Dude's effect requires you to wait a turn, which is far too long nowadays - especially if you plan on searching it with Stratos, in which case you can't benefit from his effect until Turn 3 (you know, the turn after DAD trampled you).[/quote'] Well, the way I see it, Diamond Dude's role is in thinning the Deck right now, but it's also the strongest Level 4 Destiny Hero. So I suppose that it's also there to be a beatstick. If we can afford to drop Diamond Dude to 1 or even remove it, we could include something like Wildheart or Neos Alius, which are also searchable through Stratos and Reinforcements. The only problem is that we would also have to drop D-Draw by some amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravitize Me Cap'n! Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 DAD is not as reliant as OTKing as DDT is. Subsequently, DDT is not as reliant on OTKing as Magical Explosion is, explaining the better showing of DDT vs Explosion. In addition, DAD is also much more consistent, relying on raw draw power rather than leaving part of it to chance in the milling of cards via Reasoning/Monster Gate. Speed-wise: Explosion > DDT >>> DAD EDIT: DAD DDTs are the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SephirothKirby Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 I like DDT more, it's...a lot of fun to play, where as DAD isn't. Though, I can't say DDT is more powerful than DAD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 I dislike Turbo decks as a rule. It's more fun to play in an old-fashioned control environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Turbo decks and FTK's are the funnest decks to play. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Turbo decks and FTK's are the funnest decks to play. Period. except they're not. You just play cards, you don't really need to think anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orochi Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 to the one who lost it's not funny... XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Turbo decks and FTK's are the funnest decks to play. Period. except they're not. You just play cards' date=' you don't really need to think anymore.[/quote'] And games last about 3 minutes, meaning you get more of them in.... You play for the same win condition, and I see no problem with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Turbo decks and FTK's are the funnest decks to play. Period. except they're not. You just play cards' date=' you don't really need to think anymore.[/quote'] And games last about 3 minutes, meaning you get more of them in.... You play for the same win condition, and I see no problem with that. No...A match is 3 games, regardless of the time each game takes. Also, the objective isn't to see whether you draw into DAD and Dimension Fusion before your opponent does in a non-turbo deck. I never thought I'd say this, but I miss the Age of Monarchy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SephirothKirby Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 I change my vote. I like MOM more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Turbo decks and FTK's are the funnest decks to play. Period. except they're not. You just play cards' date=' you don't really need to think anymore.[/quote'] And games last about 3 minutes, meaning you get more of them in.... You play for the same win condition, and I see no problem with that. No...A match is 3 games, regardless of the time each game takes. Also, the objective isn't to see whether you draw into DAD and Dimension Fusion before your opponent does in a non-turbo deck. I never thought I'd say this, but I miss the Age of Monarchy. To first sentence: What? I said I get more games in, which means more matches in. I said nothing about how many games I got in per match. And Yugioh's objective has always been to win, and this format just makes it a lot easier to do so having killed all your opponents cards and having a lot of your own cause the killing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Turbo decks and FTK's are the funnest decks to play. Period. except they're not. You just play cards' date=' you don't really need to think anymore.[/quote'] And games last about 3 minutes, meaning you get more of them in.... You play for the same win condition, and I see no problem with that. No...A match is 3 games, regardless of the time each game takes. Also, the objective isn't to see whether you draw into DAD and Dimension Fusion before your opponent does in a non-turbo deck. I never thought I'd say this, but I miss the Age of Monarchy. To first sentence: What? I said I get more games in, which means more matches in. I said nothing about how many games I got in per match. And Yugioh's objective has always been to win, and this format just makes it a lot easier to do so having killed all your opponents cards and having a lot of your own cause the killing. It only makes winning a lot easier to do if you have an extremely high Money : Skill ratio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Turbo decks and FTK's are the funnest decks to play. Period. except they're not. You just play cards' date=' you don't really need to think anymore.[/quote'] And games last about 3 minutes, meaning you get more of them in.... You play for the same win condition, and I see no problem with that. No...A match is 3 games, regardless of the time each game takes. Also, the objective isn't to see whether you draw into DAD and Dimension Fusion before your opponent does in a non-turbo deck. I never thought I'd say this, but I miss the Age of Monarchy. To first sentence: What? I said I get more games in, which means more matches in. I said nothing about how many games I got in per match. And Yugioh's objective has always been to win, and this format just makes it a lot easier to do so having killed all your opponents cards and having a lot of your own cause the killing. Exactly. This makes it easier. For your brain. You just play. Without thought. Why bother playing at all? Yugioh is supposed a brain game. (well, not really, it is a children's card game.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 it's boring nowdays, run DAD, get him 2nd turn, get your opponent ******. You win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravitize Me Cap'n! Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 DAD isn't that fast, play the game and try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 DAD isn't that fast' date=' play the game and try again.[/quote'] It can be and often is, though admittedly it can last longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravitize Me Cap'n! Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 It can be, but often isn't. I'd say DAD turn 3 or less wins occur maybe ≤ 20% of the time. DDT goes off under turn 3 probably ≥ 80% of the time, but going off ≠ winning, which is DDT/most other OTK's primary problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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