altemon Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Argument: Should ingredients on food packaging be stated in ways that normal people can understand? Example: Budget Bread Wheat flour, water, wheat bran (6%), yeast, salt, vegetable oil, soy flour, emulsifiers (471, 481), acidity regulator (263). In bold are things that I can't understand without looking them up. Normal rules apply. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Definition Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Yeah what is a emulsifiers and acidity regulator? I agree it should cuase if people don't know what it is maybe it could be harmful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altemon Posted April 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 @ AnarchyI doubt that a food company could get away with putting harmful products in their foods, except for things that are harmful to people with allergies, which they are required to state anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Definition Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Well look at China in soy sause they have human hair and in something else some human fices. so they could get away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altemon Posted April 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 @AnarchyWould you mind supplying me with a viable source of information for that statement?(NOT Wikipedia) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Well look at China in soy sause they have human hair and in something else some human fices. so they could get away with it. sry couldn't resist. Anyway yes because not all people are nutrition experts or scientist's that could understand some of the ingredients they post so if they could post it in "normal english" then it's helpful for people who have allergies. Again they might not have "normal english" name's so they can be used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Definition Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Well look at China in soy sause they have human hair and in something else some human fices. so they could get away with it. sry couldn't resist. Anyway yes because not all people are nutrition experts or scientist's that could understand some of the ingredients they post so if they could post it in "normal english" then it's helpful for people who have allergies. Again they might not have "normal english" name's so they can be used. [/img]Yeah it's fun But thankyou @ AltemonHow? how can i it was on the news like 5-6 weeks ago. I remember people having said that it included human hair so we through the Soy sauce away. so we did not want it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Blasphemy it is all lies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Definition Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Blasphemy it is all lies. Who is lieing?sorry i did not spell it right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 In America, we have laws against things improperly added to food. The things like Emulsifiers are addatives. They make it taste different. Thats pretty much it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 learn your preserves and chemical regulators, wash your fresh greens, and NEVER eat anything that was grown with DDT pesticide if you like being fertile. you should know what your eating, and the internet can help with that. they DO NOT need to explain to you what each emulsifier is, because most people don't care, and if you do, find out on the interwebs yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fh-Fh Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Diamond Dude Turbo made a pesticide (lol) as the age-old saying goes: Everyone knows' date=' if you don't know what it is, don't eat it. [/quote'] Shop at Trader Joe's. They have the best everything. No preservatives, no (bad) chemicals. Just plain and simple 100%. You can get chocolate covered peanuts with the ingredients only 2 or 3 lines long. In-N-Out uses fresh grown everything. Avoid Costco and McDonald's-type places if you want fresh organic food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco Straybyrn Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 This topic is a wannabe debate that failed due to the creator's lack of intelligence. There are laws that keep bad things out of our food, and stores would not sell said food if it did have harmful chemicals in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Zero Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 While agreeing that this isn't the best debate I've seen on this forum, it does provide me with a chance to vent about something that I encounter on an almost daily basis. That being that for some reason that I do not know the FDA allows a fairly notable exception to their ingredient listings on foods to go pretty much unchecked. If you look through the food in your house I am betting you will find at least one item that has "Spices" in it. Now for the majority of you this is not a huge deal, but consider for a momment, that you/your spouse/loved one/kid/whatever happens to be allergic to cinnamon and then consider that roughly 50% of the time cinnamon is included in this "Spices" catagory instead of having the individual "Spices" written out and you see where I am coming from on this point. My wife has a severe allergy to cinnamon so I am almost in a constant state of label reading to make my best effort to ensure that no cinnamon enters our house. In the course of her life there have been several hospital trips due to someone(not me...yet) giving her food that did not have cinnamon listed in the ingredients but did have cinnamon in the actual product and listed it as "Spices." While not as common a severe allergy ingredient as something like peanuts, this still something that could easily be avoided if this particular exception to FDA regulations didn't exist. Therefore, I submit that all ingredients should be listed on food packaging. As Static previously mentioned, with the ease of locating information of this type on the itnernet I do not see a point to 'dumbing down' labels. I just see a point to making them complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altemon Posted April 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Thanks, Enigma. Draco, I find calling me unintelligent not only offensive but incorrect. Please change your post, and maybe lay off on the insults. Vent your anger somewhere else. Also, if this debate wasn't good enough, YCMaker wouldn't have accepted it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 You said they need to be stated in ways normal civilians can understand? Do you want them to write an article on the side of every box explaining exactly what Blue Lake is? Btw, my Elementary School Principle was allergic to Red 3, I think. One of the Reds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altemon Posted April 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Did I ever say that was MY opinion? No. It's just the discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 then what IS your opinion? you must give your opinion and back it up in a debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 Thanks' date=' Enigma. Draco, I find calling me unintelligent not only offensive but incorrect. Please change your post, and maybe lay off on the insults. Vent your anger somewhere else. Also, if this debate wasn't good enough, YCMaker wouldn't have accepted it.[/quote'] Though Enigma's post was very heartfelt and touching, it did not add much to either side of the debate at hand. When you take chemistry, you will understand that an Acidity regulator regulates, reduces acids in bread products. They are the opposites of Acids, bases. Now, Have you ever made pancakes at home? You put acidity regulators in them when you make them. There called Baking soda and Baking Powder. Baking powder is the more icky tasting one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Dinosaur Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 Argument: Should ingredients on food packaging be stated in ways that normal people can understand? Example: Budget Bread Wheat flour' date=' water, wheat bran (6%), yeast, salt, vegetable oil, soy flour, [b']emulsifiers (471, 481), acidity regulator (263).[/b] In bold are things that I can't understand without looking them up. Normal rules apply. Discuss. They're obviously Preservatives. Just to make it last longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Cobra Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 If you can't read it, don't eat it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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