Silencerleader Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 The Metagame...in the thoughts of someone I heard of. I agree with him. http://www.pojo.com/Yu-gi-oh/CCGTips/2007/May/5-7-2.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foenix Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 This guy has a point... sort of. He probably just lost to a pyro deck with cyber dragon in it. You can't tell people how to make their own decks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silencerleader Posted July 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 But its also annoying to see a cyberdragin in a deck like a wind deck or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foenix Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 I'm putting Penguin soldier in my Pyro deck. Right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yogg-Saron Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 True but the reason is because Cyber Dragon is pretty much considered a staple these days its hard to find a deck without one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silencerleader Posted July 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 I'm fine with that...it returns a monster like Hane hane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryFreelance Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 DEATH TO MD!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sartorius Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Omfg... You're taking advice from POJO? Pojo is an awful site full of awful players. All good players know that. The so called "pros" of YuGiOh HATE pojo as everyone on there doesn't know what they're talking about and post crap decks. I got a bit of advice: Try other places. Pojo = BAD. duelistgroundz.com is 100000x better. Join it or I'll divide you by 0! :o Nah. You don't have to, but seriously, don't ever take pojo seriously and don't get advice from it. As that's why the commonly used expression "lolpojo" is used. [/rant][/truth][/lolpojo] -Ash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kocrow17 Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 But its also annoying to see a cyberdragin in a deck like a wind deck or something.Was that a shot at me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaco Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Actually I thought that was a shot at my Wind Village deck T_T But I do think Pojo has a bit of a point. I mean I would LOVE to see the day when no one used monarchs or OTKs (basically because I'm bitter :P ) And people started using Water decks, or Normal Monster decks, or Ojama decks, or something like that. Either way, meta decks are so popular because they are the "Best". And no one in their right mind would make a water deck that they knew would have no chance against Monarchs T_T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sartorius Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Precisely. All those crappy little cards are left for little kids or people who just want to play for fun. Good players use good cards.Bad players use bad cards or they're dumb. Anyone can win at ygo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotalObelisk Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 It just depends on how you use your cards, I mean another person dueling with my deck would get creamed because they don't know my best combos. Also, I prefer dueling original decks rather than monarchs or Ancient Gears, I was practically over the moon when I faced somebody with a deck that didn't use anything done before, course it sucked but what the heck, it was fun... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kocrow17 Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 How are ancient gears unoriginal? But I know what you mean about dueling fun decks. The other day I dueled and E-Hero deck with a Frog deck and a Fairy deck with a Harpie deck. They definately make the gamemore interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotalObelisk Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Because a lot of people use them from the machine re-volt structure deck, it's getting old already... You already know I don't like structure decks or decks based on cards used a lot in the anime (eg: E-hero) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kocrow17 Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 I don't mind people using anime decks, as long as they do a good job building them. I can't wait for the Vehicroid deck to come out so I can duel it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotalObelisk Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Well I just don't personally use them, I prefer using my own brain to make my deck rather than copying somebody else who's deck looks cool. Although I have nothing against people doing it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kocrow17 Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 That's a great out look on the game. If only all player had that same point of view. Me, I do use structure decks, but only while when I duel other structure decks. EX: I bought the Machine structure deck, so my brother rebuilt the dinosaur structure deck and we tested the against each other just to see which was better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silencerleader Posted July 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 But its also annoying to see a cyberdragin in a deck like a wind deck or something.Was that a shot at me? No I wasnt...I like Metadecks and all, Cyber Dragon ,mostly, its just that it is a little over used...thats all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotalObelisk Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 One of my friends looking for a special edition Dino structure deck just cause he wants the five headed god dragon... Vain fool, but I see his point, some cards are easier to get in structure decks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sartorius Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 How is that being Vain? Just because he wants the dragon >_> Here's a point. Meta is ALWAYS better. Anti-meta decks can do okay, but even those are meta now. Custom decks with Heroes, or Crystal Beasts or other crap can be okay, but in the end, they all suck. No matter how good the builder is. The ONLY reported incident of a non-meta deck doing well is a Cyberdark deck that top 8'd a SJC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay.P. Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 In my opinion, all boosters beyond SOI suck badly...But that´s just one man´s opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkguy00000 Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Precisely. All those crappy little cards are left for little kids or people who just want to play for fun. Good players use good cards.Bad players use bad cards or they're dumb. Anyone can win at ygo. You say "or people who just want to play for fun" like it's a bad thing. And c'mon, seriously. It's a TCG, which stands for (T)rading ©ard (G)AME, with emphasis on the last word. It's a game. Game game game. Not... not a sport, or a competition. Ok, now I've got a little story about "crap" cards and "rogue" decks, which have "no chance" in todays' game. I was cruising the interwebs for interesting discussion on Yugioh, when lo and behold, I come across a CotD thing. I scroll around and see Cyber Dragon (It was a day when they looked at brand-new released cards). I look at it... and people were actually saying it'd be useless. "Nah," they said, "it's worse than Airknight Parshath, with an effect that's WAY too situational". Now, I'm not sure what format that was, and what decks defined it, but there's two lessons to be learned: a) LOTS of stuff that is/was "meta" was once rogue stuff, missing one crucial ingredient. Demise OTK, for example. It needed ARA, then it dominated, until it's fall from grace. b) What is dominating now can change with a simple change of the banlist. DDT was crippled by the limitation of MSE and Stratos, for example. Now it's be demoted to rogue again, save the odd gutsy player who still wants a crack with it. In conclusion. Sure, if you are playing competitively, g'head, play something swiped off'f someone else, but I don't see the "fun" in that. Oh sure, there's some fun, the pride of victory, of knowing you won. But winning, or not even winning but doing well with a deck of your own design gives you a much bigger feeling of happiness, and in the end that's what we all play for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kocrow17 Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 How is that being Vain? Just because he wants the dragon >_> Here's a point. Meta is ALWAYS better. Anti-meta decks can do okay' date=' but even those are meta now. Custom decks with Heroes, or Crystal Beasts or other crap can be okay, but in the end, they all suck. No matter how good the builder is. The ONLY reported incident of a non-meta deck doing well is a Cyberdark deck that top 8'd a SJC.[/quote']Interesting. I never thought Cyber Dark cards had it in them. You say "or people who just want to play for fun" like it's a bad thing. And c'mon, seriously. It's a TCG, which stands for (T)rading ©ard (G)AME, with emphasis on the last word. It's a game. Game game game. Not... not a sport, or a competition. Ok, now I've got a little story about "crap" cards and "rogue" decks, which have "no chance" in todays' game. I was cruising the interwebs for interesting discussion on Yugioh, when lo and behold, I come across a CotD thing. I scroll around and see Cyber Dragon (It was a day when they looked at brand-new released cards). I look at it... and people were actually saying it'd be useless. "Nah," they said, "it's worse than Airknight Parshath, with an effect that's WAY too situational". Now, I'm not sure what format that was, and what decks defined it, but there's two lessons to be learned: a) LOTS of stuff that is/was "meta" was once rogue stuff, missing one crucial ingredient. Demise OTK, for example. It needed ARA, then it dominated, until it's fall from grace. b) What is dominating now can change with a simple change of the banlist. DDT was crippled by the limitation of MSE and Stratos, for example. Now it's be demoted to rogue again, save the odd gutsy player who still wants a crack with it. In conclusion. Sure, if you are playing competitively, g'head, play something swiped off'f someone else, but I don't see the "fun" in that. Oh sure, there's some fun, the pride of victory, of knowing you won. But winning, or not even winning but doing well with a deck of your own design gives you a much bigger feeling of happiness, and in the end that's what we all play for.Greatly enjoyed the story and the point you were illustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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