TheTrueSaiyan Posted December 27, 2017 Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 Infernoids are one of my favorite decks from a lore standpoint. The lore of this monster is when Infernoid Devyaty jumped into the other dimension and absorbed the Ice Barrier Dragons (seen in Void Trap Hole). We see his new form in Void Vanishment but never go a monster actually representing that state. We do see the form Devyaty takes after it #FreesConstruct and merges together to form El Shaddoll Anoyatyllis but that's not an Infernoid monster. TL;DR - Infernoid Devyaty absorbs the Ice Barrier dragons at some point in the Duel terminal, that's this card Infernoid DzieviacLevel 9FIRE - Fiend/Fusion/Effect1 "Infernoid" monster whose original Level is 9 or higher + 1 monster Special Summoned from the Extra deckMust first be Special Summoned (from your Extra Deck) by sending the above cards from either field to the GY. (You do not use "Polymerization".)① This card is also treated as a WATER monster while on the field or GY.② While this card is Face-up on the field, you do not need to tribute monsters to activate the effects of "Infernoid" monsters.③ You can target 1 "Infernoid" monster in the GY with a lower level than this card; Special Summon it (This summon is treated as if that card was special summoned by its own procedure), and if you do, lower this card's level by the level of the targeted monster.❰ 2950 / 2950 ❱ So you summon this card by fusioning Infernoid Devyaty, Infernoid Onuncu, or Infernoid Tierra with one of your opponents (or your own if need be) monsters that was special summoned from the Extra Deck. This is because the Ice Barrier dragons are all Extra Deck monster and they weren't exactly on the side of the Infernoids. The "whose original Level is 9 or higher" is due to Decatron being able to get up there easily by milling one of the big Infernoids which I feel would be too good. The first effect is just straight lore, the Ice Barrier dragons were all WATER. The second effect allows you to use the D.D. Crow effect of the Infernoids (and negates of Devyaty and Onuncu) for no cost which is the main reason you'd play it. The last effect is just to allow you to get other Infernoid on the field to use the second effect since I wanted to keep the Level 9 from Devyaty. Without this effect, you would have been unable to summon Infernoids since you have more than 8 levels of the field. The ATK/DEF is just a small increase over Devyaty to show it gained power from absorbing the Ice barrier dragons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuriena Posted December 27, 2017 Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 cool card i really wouldn't changes much about iti like its last 2 effects very much they are so cool for the last effect, i suggest it treat the summon as a special summon by the monster's own procedure as opposed to ignoring its summoning conditions so that you don't have to keep track of what noids were properly summoned before being sent to your graveyard (ignoreeng summon conditions does not ignore the rule that that have to be properly summoned to be summoned from grave (this rule excludes deck)) i wonder if this could have just been a WATER synchro that uses synchro non-tuner instead of a contact fusion (ignoring the whole chimeratech fortress thing). since decatron the tuner is basically devyaty('s head) anyway and can become actually devyaty via effecti think it would be neater that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrueSaiyan Posted December 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 for the last effect, i suggest it treat the summon as a special summon by the monster's own procedure as opposed to ignoring its summoning conditions so that you don't have to keep track of what noids were properly summoned before being sent to your graveyard (ignoreeng summon conditions does not ignore the rule that that have to be properly summoned to be summoned from grave (this rule excludes deck))Quite the oversight, I'll change it to that then. Thanks! i wonder if this could have just been a WATER synchro that uses synchro non-tuner instead of a contact fusion (ignoring the whole chimeratech fortress thing). since decatron the tuner is basically devyaty('s head) anyway and can become actually devyaty via effecti think it would be neater that wayI intended for this to be Infernoid support, having to make a Synchro and then still have a Decatron on the field seems like too much to ask for and doesn't suit the play style of Infernoids. Infernoids also don't have any Synchros so a Synchro non-tuner is another hoop to jump through. I'm a fan of Archetypes being able to, in theory, be able to make their boss monsters without outside cards. Also, Decatron comes later in the Duel Terminal after Anoyatyllis is killed so having this card depend on a card that came later in the story just feels weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuriena Posted December 27, 2017 Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 Infernoids also don't have any Synchros so a Synchro non-tuner is another hoop to jump through. I'm a fan of Archetypes being able to, in theory, be able to make their boss monsters without outside cards.i mean considering what this card is (also isn't a perfectly apt comparison to the contrary since they do have a tuner) however the requiring 2 decatron thing is a fair point. i wasn't thinking too much about the playability of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrueSaiyan Posted December 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 i mean considering what this card is (also isn't a perfectly apt comparison to the contrary since they do have a tuner) however the requiring 2 decatron thing is a fair point. i wasn't thinking too much about the playability of it Shaddolls also have a tuner but Synchro monster, don't think it really means anything. Also Infernoids are technically a Fusion Archtype since they have Tierra so I think a Fusion would be more fitting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuriena Posted December 27, 2017 Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 Shaddolls also have a tuner but Synchro monster, don't think it really means anything. i think you missed the point i was saying that the "hoop" that infernoids have to jump through is not comparable to the one where, say, nekroz has to jump through to make, say, an ice barrier synchro—their requirement of "outside" cards is not nearly as drastic i was saying nothing along the lines of "they have a tuner so they should have a synchro!" however it's worth noting that falco is based on falco which is a tuner. decatron is a tuner simply because it is? so falco's tuner status does in fact mean something. decatron's doesn't seem to, but perhaps you could make it mean something Also Infernoids are technically a Fusion Archtype since they have Tierra so I think a Fusion would be more fitting they have 1 fusion monster if you made this a synchro, they would have 1 synchro monster it would not be any more or less fitting to base this decision on the arbitrary distinction on what makes something "a fusion archetype" isn't wise in this case imo and again with this card being based on something that is very not infernoid, and it already being WATER, i don't see why it has to be fusion even if infernoids had a strong fusion theme (which is arguable although i'll give that it has at least 2 cards dedicated to the mechanic (although one only due to necessity (although its text does lend to the idea of more infernoid fusions existing))) --- but don't forget i like the way the card is. only pondering the alternate idea of this being a synchro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrueSaiyan Posted December 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 but don't forget i like the way the card is. only pondering the alternate idea of this being a synchro Fair enough, I don't really like that thought but yeah would be interesting for Decatron to have something to do. Not sure how I would fit into the duel terminal since Decatron is the only tuner the Infernoid Synchro monster would have to be made with him, but Decatron doesn't basically nothing between becoming a head and waking up Tierra. Even all the Yang Zing Synchros are made with the specific monsters in the Duel Terminal Story. Maybe we could have an "Alternate Ending" where instead of immediately waking up Tierra, Decatron uses the power of "connecting the star" it absorbed from the Ice Barrier Dragons or whatever they call Synchro summoning in the Duel Terminal and make a Synchro with Shaddoll Zefracore. Then maybe we get a card where it makes a last stand against the Zefra and then wakes up Tierra. Without a suitable host for the final blessing of Sophia (since Zefracore was used to summon Zefraath) the Zefra is annihilated and Tierra destroys the world? Actually, that would be pretty cool XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuriena Posted December 27, 2017 Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 (although its text does lend to the idea of more infernoid fusions existing) oh yeah on this note it would be nice if this could be summoned using imagination Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrueSaiyan Posted December 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 oh yeah on this note it would be nice if this could be summoned using imaginationWould have to change the summoning requirements to use Imagination effectively since you can only send 1 Infernoid Devyaty, Infernoid Onuncu and then still have to use some random extra deck monster you control to summon this. Besides, it would be pretty hard to be better than Tierra that allows you to mill 6 Infernoids with Imagination and that card does enough. I like it as it is though, lore wise it's not supposed to be summoned by Imagination anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.