CrabHelmet Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 I. Forbidden Cards You cannot use these cards in your Deck or Side Deck: ACCUMULATED FORTUNEALL-OUT ATTACKSALLURE OF DARKNESSBLACK LUSTER SOLDIER - ENVOY OF THE BEGINNINGBREAKER THE MAGICAL WARRIORBUTTERFLY DAGGER - ELMACALL OF THE HAUNTEDCARD OF SAFE RETURNCHANGE OF HEARTCHAOS EMPEROR DRAGON - ENVOY OF THE ENDCHAOS SORCERERCHIMERATECH FORTRESS DRAGON (Chimeratech Fortress Dragon)CHIMERATECH OVERDRAGONCONFISCATIONCRUSH CARD VIRUSCYBER DRAGONCYBER END DRAGONCYBER JARCYBER-STEINCYBER TWIN DRAGONDAIROKKAN (Sixth Sense)DARK ARMED DRAGONDARK HOLEDARKLORD ZERATODARK MAGICIAN OF CHAOSDECK DEVASTATION VIRUSDELINQUENT DUODESTINY HERO - DISK COMMANDERDIMENSION FUSIONEPIDEMIC ERADICATION VIRUSEXCHANGE OF THE SPIRITEXODIA THE FORBIDDEN ONEFIBER JARGOLD SARCOPHAGUSGRACEFUL CHARITYHARPIE'S FEATHER DUSTERIMPERIAL ORDERJUDGMENT DRAGONLAST TURNLAST WILLLIFE EQUALIZERLIMITER REMOVALMAGICAL EXPLOSIONMAGICAL SCIENTISTMAKYURA THE DESTRUCTORMEGAMORPHMEIFU NO SHISHA GOES (Gorz the Emissary of Darkness)MIRAGE OF NIGHTMAREMONSTER REBORNMORPHING JARNOBLEMAN OF CROSSOUTPAINFUL CHOICEPHANTOM OF CHAOSPOT OF GREEDPREMATURE BURIALRAIGEKIRETURN FROM THE DIFFERENT DIMENSIONREVERSAL QUIZRING OF DESTRUCTIONSANGANSINISTER SERPENTSKY SCOURGE NORLERASSNATCH STEALSNIPE HUNTERTHE FORCEFUL SENTRYTHOUSAND-EYES RESTRICTTIME SEALTRAP DUSTSHOOTTREEBORN FROGTRIBE-INFECTING VIRUSTSUKUYOMIULTIMATE OFFERINGUNITED WE STANDVICTORY DRAGONWITCH OF THE BLACK FORESTYATA-GARASU NEW! - Accumulated Fortune, All-Out Attacks, Allure of Darkness, Card of Safe Return, Chimeratech Fortress Dragon (Chimeratech Fortress Dragon), Chimeratech Overdragon, Crush Card Virus, Cyber Dragon, Cyber End Dragon, Cyber Twin Dragon, Dairokkan (Sixth Sense), Dark Armed Dragon, Darklord Zerato, Dark Magician of Chaos, Deck Devastation Virus, Destiny Hero - Disk Commander, Epidemic Eradication Virus, Exodia the Forbidden One, Gold Sarcophagus, Judgment Dragon, Life Equalizer, Limiter Removal, Magical Explosion, Megamorph, Meifu no Shisha Goes (Gorz the Emissary of Darkness), Monster Reborn, Morphing Jar, Nobleman of Crossout, Phantom of Chaos, Premature Burial, Return from the Different Dimension, Reversal Quiz, Sangan, Sky Scourge Norleras, Snipe Hunter, Trap Dustshoot, Ultimate Offering, United We Stand II. Limited Cards You can ONLY use one of the following cards in the Deck & Side Deck combined: ARCANA FORCE 0 - THE FOOLCARD DESTRUCTIONCARD TROOPERCEASEFIRECHAIN STRIKEDANDELION (Dandylion)ELEMENTAL HERO STRATOSGIANT TRUNADEGRAVITY BINDGREEN BABOON, DEFENDER OF THE FORESTHEAVY STORMLEVEL LIMIT - AREA BMAGIC CYLINDERMARSHMALLONMIRROR FORCENECROFACENIGHT ASSAILANTSPIRIT REAPERSWORDS OF REVEALING LIGHTTWIN-HEADED BEHEMOTH NEW! - Arcana Force 0 - The Fool, Necroface NEW! - The following cards are no longer Limited: Advanced Ritual Art, Book of Moon, Brain Control, D.D. Warrior Lady, Destiny Hero - Malicious, Fissure, Foolish Burial, Future Fusion, Left Arm of the Forbidden One, Left Leg of the Forbidden One, Light and Darkness Dragon, Mage Power, Magical Stone Excavation, Magician of Faith, Manticore of Darkness, Mask of Darkness, Metamorphosis, Mind Crush, Mystical Space Typhoon, Neo-Spacian Grand Mole, Ojama Trio, Overload Fusion, Raiza the Storm Monarch, Reinforcement of the Army, Right Arm of the Forbidden One, Right Leg of the Forbidden One, Royal Decree, Scapegoat, Smashing Ground, The Transmigration Prophecy, Torrential Tribute, Wall of Revealing Light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 I assume that this is Atem's newest list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted May 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 I assume that this is Atem's newest list? Correct. Just released on Friday. Although I still don't understand why Cup of Ace isn't banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Hm, if The Fool became limit, why wouldn't Gellenduo?He's basically another Fool as long as your opponent doesn't run burn, and burn doesn't care about Fools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kizzi Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Allure banned? Wow, I thought it was balanced. >. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Allure banned? Wow' date=' I thought it was balanced. >.<[/quote'] Hell no. Horrendously splashably fast card is horrendously splashably fast. UDE should have never made it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted May 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Hm' date=' if The Fool became limit, why wouldn't Gellenduo?He's basically another Fool as long as your opponent doesn't run burn, and burn doesn't care about Fools.[/quote'] The self-destruct effect balances him. There are plenty of ways to take advantage of it outside of burn. Allure banned? Wow' date=' I thought it was balanced. >.<[/quote'] Allure broke DARK and made the format too fast. This format is deliberately slower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kizzi Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Hm' date=' if The Fool became limit, why wouldn't Gellenduo?He's basically another Fool as long as your opponent doesn't run burn, and burn doesn't care about Fools.[/quote'] The self-destruct effect balances him. There are plenty of ways to take advantage of it outside of burn. Allure banned? Wow' date=' I thought it was balanced. >.<[/quote'] Allure broke DARK and made the format too fast. This format is deliberately slower.I suppose, but if Allure went, I'd want some more specific themed draw engines to let some decks keep up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Why ban Nobleman of Crossout? It seems good at 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted May 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Why ban Nobleman of Crossout? It seems good at 1. Flips have enough problems as it is. Removing them from both field and deck is bad enough as it is. Doing so when Dimension Fusion and Return from the Different Dimension are banned? No. Essentially, that card's legality makes Flips unplayable. Similarly, CFD made Machines unplayable. It is now dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tefached Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 i like this list much more than any other one....not as many cards limited but many still Forbidden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted May 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 i like this list much more than any other one.... That's because it's a good list. not as many cards limited but many still Forbidden That's because it's a good list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 good solid list, if only ude actually had sense this is what it should look like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 BEST BANLIST EVEAR sure it removes a lot of the good cards but it makes it fair but raiza at one is where it should be that is my only problem ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted May 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 BEST BANLIST EVEAR sure it removes a lot of the good cards but it makes it fair but raiza at one is where it should be that is my only problem ^_^ With 0 Treeborn, Monarchs don't have a consistent draw engine, and with 0 Disk Commander, Perfect Circle is essentially dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSceptile Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Atem list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Dinosaur Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Good job Crab Helmet! You've succeeded in making an actually VERY worthy Ban-List (not that the others aren't worthy). But i still think Future Fusion could be Limited seeing as it can bring out lots of Big Fusion Monsters out. But, we all have our thoughts. Nice job on this list! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevalier Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 That's because it's a good list. Exactly.Great List. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axiom_Nor Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Atem's list = win. remix's list = fail. lol Now if only... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Nice list, interesting idea, making your own banned list ^_^ Although, why ban All-Out Attacks and Accumulated Fortune? Totally with you on Gors, it's cheap as hell. Cyber End seems unnecessary considering how hard it is to get out all ready and how easily monster removal effects can chomp it, also I REALLY don't think we should un-limit exodia, it's already powerful enough with manti-loop, emissary, etc. By the way, just throwing it out there for those who don't already, Allure's getting Semi'd, RFtDD's getting Limited, and Dimension Fusion's getting banned during the next list, it's still being worked on, this is actually going to happen and is on the site. Anyway, first post for me evah! XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted May 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Although' date=' why ban All-Out Attacks[/quote'] It makes Ojama Trio broken, so only one of the two can survive. Of the two, Ojama Trio has the most strategic applications. and Accumulated Fortune? This is a chainable-heavy format; we're talking 3 Mystical Space Typhoon' date=' 3 Book of Moon, 3 Mind Crush, 3 Ojama Trio, 3 Scapegoat, and so on. Accumulated Fortune may as well read "Draw 2 cards". Cyber End seems unnecessary considering how hard it is to get out all ready and how easily monster removal effects can chomp it, He's banned because Metamorphosis is legal. also I REALLY don't think we should un-limit exodia' date=' it's already powerful enough with manti-loop, emissary, etc. [/quote'] Exodia is banned. With the head banned, there's no reason for the limbs to be Limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zelda_tp_fan Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 why is exodia the forbidden one banned? there are a few other cards that are banned that I don't particularly like, but thats because I like the cards lol I suppose this list is alot better than the list thats out right now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Huh wait? Why'd Allure have to die again? How far out of the meta have I been? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted May 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 why is exodia the forbidden one banned? It's been borderline for ages. Dark Eruption basically signed its death sentence. I suppose this list is alot better than the list thats out right now... I suppose Yata-Garasu is alot better than Larvae Moth... Huh wait? Why'd Allure have to die again? How far out of the meta have I been? The format is being deliberately made slower. Allure gives the format too much speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zelda_tp_fan Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 It's been borderline for ages. Dark Eruption basically signed its death sentence. I can understand that... I mean' date=' I never knew that exodia decks were [i']that[/i] good, but I can understand why dark Eruption would make them pretty much broken... still, I think I'd rather see Dark Eruption get banned and keep Exodia (not that it really effects me since I and know one that I know use exodia...) I suppose Yata-Garasu is alot better than Larvae Moth... Yeah right... You and I both know that Larvae Moth is the most powerful monster in the game. So much more useful than Yata-Garasu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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