Macro Monarchs

[Tekken Ham]

Well, no one should remember me, but I've been hanging around GaiaOnline for a while. Brought this to locals and placed in the Top 4. Oh yeah, that was my first tourney too. Waiting on another Thestalos in the mail. Also grabbing LODT box tommorow, hopefully get more tech cards. I do play at a regional level, or so I think, if I beat people who are regional regulars does that count? Regionals are on the same day as my family vacation so I'm pissed. Rate/Fixes are welcome, I'll probably disregard most, but hey, I'm cool like that 8).

 

Monsters(21):

1x Thestalos

3x Caius

1x Raiza

2x Cyber Dragon

 

3x Survivor

3x Scout Plane

3x Cyber Valley

2x Assailant

2x Exiled

1x Marshmallon

 

Spells(12):

2x Dimensional Fissure

1x MST

1x Heavy

1x DDR

2x Machine Dup

1x Brain Con

2x RoTA

2x Lightning Vortex

 

Traps(8 ):

3x Macro

2x Solemn

1x Bribe

1x Mirror

1x Torrential

 

Sideboard

1x Divine Knight Ishark

2x Phantom Dragon

2x Dust Tornado

1x Nobleman of Crossout

1x Dimensional Fissure

2x Banisher of Radiance

1x Deck Lockdown

1x Destruction Jammer

1x Drastic

1x Shrink

1x Convergence

1x Mobius

[Damian_Knows_All]

You made it in "Top 4"

Somehow I don't belive you.

[Tekken Ham]

I can drag up my tourney report from Gaia if you want.

[Damian_Knows_All]

I can drag up my tourney report from Gaia if you want.

 

Go ahead, I still don't belive you tho.

[Tekken Ham]

Match 1: Vs. Gladiator Beasts

Game 1: Can't remember really, I won though.

Game 2: I stop Herki as much as I can but he keeps coming back, I lose after Solemn kills Life Points.

Game 3: Can't remember again, I won though.

1-0

Match 2: Vs. Six Samurais

Game 1: Macro, and Survivor, he swarms, I Convergence, Then poke for game.

Game 2: He swarms, I get a godly trap filled hand, Aaaand he Royal Decrees and swarms for game.

Game 3: Just tossing around, I start strong, we toss around, I poke, eventually he swarms for game.

1-1

Match 3: Vs. Spellcasters

Game 1: Macro, he keeps setting monsters, I keep hitting them and losing monsters, Don Zaloog hits field and topdecks him to death.

Game 2: I overextend, topdeck, lose

Game 3: Again, I keep hitting FD monsters and lose guys, poke around. Brain Con an Exemplar and poke for game.

2-1

Match 4: Vs. Sky Scourge

Game 1: I don't draw anything, he keeps blowing up my field and hand and I lose.

Game 2: See above

2-2

 

Top 8:

Match 5: Remember the Sky Scourge guy? Yeah I get him again.

Game 1: God hand. He starts weak, I pounce on all his cards with Solemn, get Scout Plane up, Raiza, spin Mirror Force. He sets it again. Caius, RFG Mirror, hit him hard. He gets Phantom of Chaos, gets Norleas off, and ends. I draw Assailant and win.

Game 2: He overextends big time on turn 1. I Lightning Vortex. He trys to come back, but I pretty much dominated.

3-2

 

Top 4:

Match 6: Vs. Gigaplant OTK

Game 1: I don't draw Macro and poke around, I draw it, he MSTs and gets Gigas for game.

Game 2: I Macro, he Snipe Hunter's my field and OTKs

3-3

 

Owned.

[Damian_Knows_All]

Match 1: Vs. Gladiator Beasts

Game 1: Can't remember really' date=' I won though.

Game 2: I stop Herki as much as I can but he keeps coming back, I lose after Solemn kills Life Points.

Game 3: Can't remember again, I won though.

1-0

Match 2: Vs. Six Samurais

Game 1: Macro, and Survivor, he swarms, I Convergence, Then poke for game.

Game 2: He swarms, I get a godly trap filled hand, Aaaand he Royal Decrees and swarms for game.

Game 3: Just tossing around, I start strong, we toss around, I poke, eventually he swarms for game.

1-1

Match 3: Vs. Spellcasters

Game 1: Macro, he keeps setting monsters, I keep hitting them and losing monsters, Don Zaloog hits field and topdecks him to death.

Game 2: I overextend, topdeck, lose

Game 3: Again, I keep hitting FD monsters and lose guys, poke around. Brain Con an Exemplar and poke for game.

2-1

Match 4: Vs. Sky Scourge

Game 1: I don't draw anything, he keeps blowing up my field and hand and I lose.

Game 2: See above

2-2

 

Top 8:

Match 5: Remember the Sky Scourge guy? Yeah I get him again.

Game 1: God hand. He starts weak, I pounce on all his cards with Solemn, get Scout Plane up, Raiza, spin Mirror Force. He sets it again. Caius, RFG Mirror, hit him hard. He gets Phantom of Chaos, gets Norleas off, and ends. I draw Assailant and win.

Game 2: He overextends big time on turn 1. I Lightning Vortex. He trys to come back, but I pretty much dominated.

3-2

 

Top 4:

Match 6: Vs. Gigaplant OTK

Game 1: I don't draw Macro and poke around, I draw it, he MSTs and gets Gigas for game.

Game 2: I Macro, he Snipe Hunter's my field and OTKs

3-3

 

Owned.

[/quote']

 

Psh, that proves nothing, you coud have just typed that you know?

[Tekken Ham]

Theres a 5 minute difference in time of post, pssh, suuuure I made it up. When ude loads up the rankings page I'll give you the link.

[Tekken Ham]

FALCON BUUUUUUUUMP!!!!!

 

I also edited my deck to the most recent version. And I know my Sideboard sucks.

[Damian_Knows_All]

3 Solemm or none at all.

[Tekken Ham]

I'm looking for a third. I'll check back at locals on May 31.

[Celestine]

Maindeck:

 

- 2 Cyber Dragon

- 1 Thestalos

- 1 Macro Cosmos

- 1 Machine Duplication

 

+ 3 Mobius

+ 1 Dimensional Fissure

+ 1 Torrential Tribute

 

Cyber Dragon is often a dead draw in Macro moreso in your build due to the Scout planes. I've found that s/t is vital in Macro builds. As for the D-Fissure for Macro switch I prefer D-fissure but thats just preference. I put one of the Machine Duplications as 2 seems a little redundant with only 1 target, and torrential will rarely hurt you due to the Macro + DDS/DDSS cycle.

 

Sideboard:

 

I'm not sure where to start so I'll build from Scratch.

 

3 Shadow-Imprisioning Mirror - DAD Matchup

3 Kinetic Solder - Six Samurai Matchup

3 Deck Lockdown - Gladiator Beast Matchup

2 Light-Imprisoning Mirror - Lightsworn Matchup

2 Dust Tornado - General extra s/t removal

2 Bottomless Trap Hole - General creature removal

[JesusofChaos™]

Maindeck:

 

- 2 Cyber Dragon

- 1 Thestalos

- 1 Macro Cosmos

- 1 Machine Duplication

 

+ 3 Mobius

+ 1 Dimensional Fissure

+ 1 Torrential Tribute

 

Cyber Dragon is often a dead draw in Macro moreso in your build due to the Scout planes. I've found that s/t is vital in Macro builds. As for the D-Fissure for Macro switch I prefer D-fissure but thats just preference. I put one of the Machine Duplications as 2 seems a little redundant with only 1 target' date=' and torrential will rarely hurt you due to the Macro + DDS/DDSS cycle.

 

Sideboard:

 

I'm not sure where to start so I'll build from Scratch.

 

3 Shadow-Imprisioning Mirror - DAD Matchup

3 Kinetic Solder - Six Samurai Matchup

3 Deck Lockdown - Gladiator Beast Matchup

2 Light-Imprisoning Mirror - Lightsworn Matchup

2 Dust Tornado - General extra s/t removal

2 Bottomless Trap Hole - General creature removal

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lol lrn2play before giving terrible suggestions, mobius belongs in side and has been for 3 metas, thes should be at 3 or 2, machine duplication works well with cyber valley. 3 macros and d fissure leads to too many dead draws. Cydra should be at 2 in all monarch decks

[The Dark One]

Cydra is often less than useful in this deck. He's still a decent sideboard choice, but overall doesn't belong in Macro Monarchs. Perhaps you yourself should learn to play before you judge others too harshly.

 

At Celestine.

Lol at suggesting 0 Thestalos, when he obviously needs 2 or more.

 

Lol at suggesting 3 Mobius when Mobius is best at 1 or 0. (Though he's an extremely solid sideboard choice.

(And yes, you do still need to lern2play)

 

At cheeselord.

Lol at using 3 Macro but 2 D-Fissure. It should be the other way around

Lol at using only 1 DDR. (at least 2)

 

 

Also, get another Thestalos, possibly cut Brain Control for Enemy Controller, and I personally like DMoC in Macro Monarchs.

[Tekken Ham]

Maindeck:

 

- 2 Cyber Dragon

- 1 Thestalos

- 1 Macro Cosmos

- 1 Machine Duplication

 

+ 3 Mobius

+ 1 Dimensional Fissure

+ 1 Torrential Tribute

 

Cyber Dragon is often a dead draw in Macro moreso in your build due to the Scout planes. I've found that s/t is vital in Macro builds. As for the D-Fissure for Macro switch I prefer D-fissure but thats just preference. I put one of the Machine Duplications as 2 seems a little redundant with only 1 target' date=' and torrential will rarely hurt you due to the Macro + DDS/DDSS cycle.

 

Sideboard:

 

I'm not sure where to start so I'll build from Scratch.

 

3 Shadow-Imprisioning Mirror - DAD Matchup

3 Kinetic Solder - Six Samurai Matchup

3 Deck Lockdown - Gladiator Beast Matchup

2 Light-Imprisoning Mirror - Lightsworn Matchup

2 Dust Tornado - General extra s/t removal

2 Bottomless Trap Hole - General creature removal

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I'm want to kill you. L2play Monarchs. I'm with Jesus. CyDra=Monarch engine. Thestalos=Awesomeness. WHY EVEN SUGGETS TAKING OUT MACRO?!?!?!? READ THE DAMN TITLE!!! Dup has great synergy with Valley, although I side one out for tech. Mobius is in side, STFU. Fissure is in side STFU. And I forgot to list Torrential. But that's in there.

 

On to your post. CyDra is Monarch engine STFU. Your preference does not matter to me. 2 means better chance of draw, and I forgot to list Torrential.

 

On to the sideboard part. Do you even know what DaD relies on? Phail. I don't have Kinetics atm, Phantom Dragon is a shitty replacement I know. Getting more Lockdowns. Lightsworn isn't a problem at locals and I'm running Macro. Macro =/= Graveyard. L2read JD kthxbai. I have the Dusts, and Bottemless is not necessary.

 

And Jesus, you are funking epic too.

 

@Dark One, Macro>D-Fissure. From personal experience DDR is usually a dead draw as my RFG pile never has anything good to grab. Waiting on Thestalos in mail and if I'm running 3 Macros I'm not gonna get spells in my GY. CyDra is funking awesome. Turn 1 Monarchs, an alternate engine. Albeit he does end up being a dead draw, if I don't draw Macro he is great to draw.

 

@All, My sideboard phails, I know, move on.

[The Dark One]

Lol at your overconfidence.

 

Also lol at Macro>D-Fissure.

 

You're really funny. You should be a comedian.

 

Cydra, as I said, isn't to o bad here, it just doesn't make optimal use of deck space.

 

If you're running 3 D-Fissure and 2 Macro, as you should be, you'll generally have Spells in the Graveyard. Also, D-Fissure itself will always end up in the Graveyard. I didn't say you had to run DMoC, but you shouldn't really be worried about his having targets. Trust me, I play a Macro Monarch deck with him in it, and I never have trouble with that.

 

And yes, your sideboard does fail. Now why don't you try being a little more receptive rather than practicing your rather small amount of talent at flaming?

[Tekken Ham]

A few points to be heard.

 

1. Macro is superior to D-Fissure, if not give me proof.

 

2. I'll playtest a DMoC, tell you the results.

 

3. What would be optimal deck space instead of CyDra?

 

4. Working on getting tech cards.

[The Dark One]

A few points to be heard.

 

1. Macro is superior to D-Fissure' date=' if not give me proof.

 

2. I'll playtest a DMoC, tell you the results.

 

3. What would be optimal deck space instead of CyDra?

 

4. Working on getting tech cards.

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1. Macro Cosmos is a trap. You have to wait until you're opponent's turn before it is activated. You have no reason to remove Spells and Traps from play, so why bother with the slower card? You still need 2, but max the D-Fissure out instead. This also, as I said previously, makes it easier for DMoC to find targets, if you decide to play him.

 

2. I await your results.

 

3. Well, the Thestalos, for starts (I know it's in the mail). You could also try a Mobius, he really isn't bad. Or you could use the space for another DDR or 2. A number of options present themselves.

 

4. Ok, good.

[Tekken Ham]

1. Stand-By phase man, it's all about the stand-by phase.

2. Working on finding a jank common and a sharpie for proxying

3. Gonna run 2 Thestys dropping an Assailant for one. DDR=Dead Draw, DDR=Epic Dancing Game.

 

There are always two sides of the coin, I just happen to have all three.

 

Also, CyDra speeds this deck up alot. 1 turn Monarchs, 1 turn Monarchs.

[The Dark One]

1. Stand-By phase man' date=' it's all about the stand-by phase.

2. Working on finding a jank common and a sharpie for proxying

3. Gonna run 2 Thestys dropping an Assailant for one. DDR=Dead Draw, DDR=Epic Dancing Game.

 

There are always two sides of the coin, I just happen to have all three.

 

Also, CyDra speeds this deck up alot. 1 turn Monarchs, 1 turn Monarchs.

[/quote']

 

1. Yeah, you can activate it during your opponent's standby phase. You can have D-Fissure on the field during your turn. It doesn't make much of a difference, but it does prevent your opponent from chaining Torrential to your summon of DD Survivor.

 

Also, if DDR is equaling a dead draw, maybe you need to examine the consistency of your deck.

[Tekken Ham]

Playtest results:

 

The absence of CyDra slowed it down. The shift from Macro to DFissure allowed both player's DMoC's to exploit it. Getting DFissure back isn't that helpful because I either already have a RFG card on the field or I would lose Survivors or Scout Planes.

 

Also DDR at 1 is enough. I have to discard from my hand to get a 2400 beatstick. So why do I need two?

 

I like none of the changes, I lost speed, resources, and allowed my opponent to renew their spells. Since I have no draw spells or any spells worth reusing DMoC was redundant. He was just a 2800 beatstick in my deck. Besides my index card proxies aren't official.

[Mr. Judgment Dragon]

Personally I find Macro too slow for Macro Monarchs. I only use 1. I find Dimensional Fissure quicker. It pwns Six Samurai and screws Glad Beasts. Once it gets going its hard to stop. As for Cyber. It helps in case you dont draw a Survivor or Scout Plane or if you want a quick Monarch summoning.

[JesusofChaos™]

in macro monarchs you should run 2 macros and 3 d fissures

also your side deck is bad 3 kinetic soldiers ad 3 deck locks are needed

[Mr. Judgment Dragon]

Thats just my preference. Im still trialing my deck. So far theres not much if anything that it cant beat.

[JesusofChaos™]

btw happy birthday now your same age as me =)

also in side deck i would reccomend d.d. crows

[Mr. Judgment Dragon]

Im looking for D.D Crows.