hotfoilcard Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 lol is there a thread there too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSceptile Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 No, it's just a place that backs up your argument more than tcgplayer, or pojo does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 if your going to limit, trade in and other such thngs then you also have to limit d draw and all other draw cards liek it otherwise those decks gain much more speed than others also not limiting demise mf hs and spirit reaper marshmallonand the fool is a bad idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 DGZ has failed me. They didn't try to back up their "lolthislistsux" argument any better than TCG or Pojo did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Limit Destiny Draw. Seriously, it's easier to use than Trade-In. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Limit Destiny Draw. Seriously' date=' it's easier to use than Trade-In.[/quote'] So, you are saying that there are more Level 8 monsters than there are Destiny Heroes? And everyone, I mean EVERYONE, is getting hung up on Demise being at 3 and Heavy being at 3. Might I suggest banning Demise and Limiting Heavy. There is enough S/T destruction without Heavy being at 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 The way I see it, there's no real reason for Heavy being at 3, other then to stop Mirror, which also should not be at 3. It'll be similar to Mobius, when no one would bother running anything unless it was chainable. However, it completely stops the setting of any and all cards. Zero Heavy would allow people to overextend and over commit to the S/T zone with no fear of retribution. 1 Heavy Storm is the ever present looming threat that may make you think twice at setting two Sakuretsu Armors.. 3 Heavys just kill any and all spells and traps that aren't E-Con, PWWB, or Raigeki Break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazer Yoshi Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Just seems like it was copied froma mag. No offense' date=' but it just seems like it.[/quote'] wut No magazine would have changes this good. Have you ever seen a magazine suggest banning Life Equalizer? That's what I thought. The rest of this page just seems to be some twit with a hideous avatar whining about something or other.Why did you call me a twit with a hideous avatar and whining about something? What, because i said it sounded like it came from a magazine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotfoilcard Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Just seems like it was copied froma mag. No offense' date=' but it just seems like it.[/quote'] wut No magazine would have changes this good. Have you ever seen a magazine suggest banning Life Equalizer? That's what I thought. The rest of this page just seems to be some twit with a hideous avatar whining about something or other.Why did you call me a twit with a hideous avatar and whining about something? What, because i said it sounded like it came from a magazine? he was talking about me lazerman...(im pretty sure) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazer Yoshi Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Oh..sorry. It just seems like crab helmet treats everyone the same, and apparently, the way he treated you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotfoilcard Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 edit: you know...i have nothing to say...refers everyone to my first post edit2: i actually do have something to say. all this garbage could have been avoided if 1. crap had instead titled the list as "fun fantasy list to think about"2. crumb (and friends) been polite to all comers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4449 Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 i think this list is very good however i feel like an idiot because i don't understand why accumulated and chain strike are banned/limited, they are both very situational and i didn't see any counters banned/limited and why not add Miraculous Rebirth as banned/limited since it has the same activational costall: chain link 4 or higher and can not be activated if similiar effect/name was activated in the chain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 The way I see it' date=' there's no real reason for Heavy being at 3, other then to stop Mirror, which also should not be at 3. It'll be similar to Mobius, when no one would bother running anything unless it was chainable. However, it completely stops the setting of any and all cards. Zero Heavy would allow people to overextend and over commit to the S/T zone with no fear of retribution. 1 Heavy Storm is the ever present looming threat that may make you think twice at setting two Sakuretsu Armors.. 3 Heavys just kill any and all spells and traps that aren't E-Con, PWWB, or Raigeki Break.[/quote'] Q4E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4449 Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 ok and when does a chain get to chain link 3 BEFORE a counter trap card is activated (never has for me) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 you chain your own stuff together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4449 Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 without your opponent interfering, yeah right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 ^lolwut??? Ok i wont run DAD because my opponent can activate divine wrath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4449 Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 all of the cards i mentioned are quick play or regular trap and if my friends had the money i would be playing against 2-3 vanity's call per deck and the only counter i have enough of to counter that is... guess what vanity's call, do either way my chain is screwed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 ^so ur basing not playing a card on what your friend is running, not everyone runs vanitys fiend, you hav obviously not played aganist chain burn otk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4449 Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 no i said vanity's CALL not fiend and no i have'nt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 ^w/e accumunlated and chain strike should be banned/limited they are highly broken cards and should not be allowed in this meta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 edit: you know...i have nothing to say...refers everyone to my first post edit2: i actually do have something to say. all this garbage could have been avoided if 1. crap had instead titled the list as "fun fantasy list to think about"2. crumb (and friends) been polite to all comers Edit 1: Everything you said in your first post you did not explain. I don't really feel like listing each and every thing that was posted was wrong. The point is, with this banlist it WOULDN'T be the same meta. Stop thinking in terms of this meta. Stop looking at the list card for card. Try to look at it as a whole. Edit 2: You're the one who started everything. People on this board always post idiotic non-sensical banlists and when it's pointed out they come up with ridiculous arguments like: " can counter " and so on. This is the internet. No one has to be polite to anyone. Odds are if you ever come onto the internet you'll see something that offends you. That's your own fault. If you hate posting in topics that might spark a debate and you're not prepared for one, DON'T POST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Why is Twin Swords of Flashing Light - Tryce limited? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted May 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 So you're saying that a duelist will have an unlimited number of cards in their hand? They can keep discarding and discarding every time a Spell or Trap is activated? No; however' date=' every card in hand becomes a Dark Bribe that doesn't need to be Set and doesn't let the opponent draw. Assuming normal monster/spell/trap balance and half-decent hand conservation, your opponent will be essentially unable to use spells and traps. Moving on, I think that Cyber Dragon should be unbanned. Borderline, but because it promotes mindless overextending and punishes the opponent for playing well, it needs to die. if your going to limit' date=' trade in and other such thngs then you also have to limit d draw and all other draw cards liek it otherwise those decks gain much more speed than others[/quote'] LOLWUT? That's like saying that, if I'm going to ban Judgment Dragoon, I should also ban Mega Ton Magical Cannon, since both nuke the opponent's field. Limit Destiny Draw. Seriously' date=' it's easier to use than Trade-In.[/quote'] In case you hadn't noticed, Disk Commander is banned. edit: you know...i have nothing to say...refers everyone to my first post edit2: i actually do have something to say. all this garbage could have been avoided if 1. i had never posted2. i wasnt bad at this game I agree. i think this list is very good however i feel like an idiot because i don't understand why accumulated and chain strike are banned/limited' date=' they are both very situational and i didn't see any counters banned/limited and why not add Miraculous Rebirth as banned/limited since it has the same activational costall: chain link 4 or higher and can not be activated if similiar effect/name was activated in the chain[/quote'] Accumulated Fortune = Pot of Greed this format.Chain Strike = LOL2500DAMAGE this format.Miraculous Rebirth = Monster Reborn this format. The difference is that the decks that would be able to abuse these cards would VERY MUCH prefer a Pot of Greed to a Monster Reborn. ok and when does a chain get to chain link 3 BEFORE a counter trap card is activated (never has for me) You're still thinking in terms of the current format. This theoretical list is a chainable-heavy format' date=' with 3 MST, 3 Book of Moon, and so on. Something innocuous in the current meta would become broken in the new meta. Accumulated is fine in the current meta, but not in this list. However, the current meta itself is not fine, and therefore we need this list. Why is Twin Swords of Flashing Light - Tryce limited? Promotes the summon-big-monster-and-attack OTKs, but has other, more skilled uses. The "big monsters" often need the assistance of Normal Summons, such as with Great Maju Garzett, which is why Arms Hole doesn't set it to 3 or 0 automatically. UPDATES: HEAVY STORM - LIMITED MIRROR FORCE - LIMITED BREAKER THE MAGICAL WARRIOR - UNLIMITED LAVA GOLEM - BANNED VOLCANIC QUEEN - BANNED SAND GAMBLER - BANNED GAMBLER OF LEGEND - BANNED Should all be self-explanatory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Good to see the lucksack cards going but still no blowback or barrel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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