Drawing cards.

[Aximil]

I don't mean to sound like a noob, but, me and my friends have been wondering why cards that allow players to draw ( like Pot of Greed ) are banned or limited. Would someone mind answering that for us?

[Yogg-Saron]

Because, drawing cards from your deck is a HUGE advantage, as you could always draw that card you need to lock the duel and win.

[Aximil]

Then, shouldn't all drawing cards be banned?

[Tickle Me Emo]

not all deserve the ban. Upstart doesnt, for example.

[Aximil]

Because it gives your opponent 1000 life points. But, shouldn't poison draw frog, Jar of Greed, and other cards like them be banned though?

[Tickle Me Emo]

poison draw frog: Not sure what it does

Jar of Greed: No cause its a trap and can be easily stopped and destroyed before its activate able.

Other cards: What else?

[Yogg-Saron]

Jar of Greed is a Trap, which makes it not as playable as a Spell draw card. Poison Draw Frog has to be face up when it is destroyed and only has 100 ATK, also it is slower than a Spell...

[Aximil]

There are tons of cards that let you draw cards.

[Tickle Me Emo]

name them and Ill tell you why they deserve/dont deserve the ban.

[Aximil]

3-Hump Lacooda, Airknight Parshath, Alchemy Circle, Alien Grey, Allure of Darkness, Avatar of the Pot, Batteryman Micro-Cell, Bountiful Artemis, Broww, Huntsman of Dark World, Card Trooper, Chainsaw Insect, Coach Goblin, Cyber Archfiend, Cyber Jar, Cyber Phoenix, Dark Mimic Lv1, Dark Mimic Lv3, Dekoichi the Battlechanted Locomotive, Des Lacooda, Destiny Hero - Defender, Destiny Hero - Disk Commander, Electric Snake, Elemental Hero Bubbleman, Fiber Jar, Flying Saucer Muusik'i, Freed the Matchless General, Helping Robo for Combat, Hiro's Shadow Scout, Majestic Mech - Senku, Masked Sorcerer, Molten Zombie, Morphing Jar, Poison Draw Frog, Royal Magical Library, Sacred Crane, Sasuke Samuri #3, Skelengel, Spirit of the Pot of Greed, The Agent of Wisdom - Mercury, The Bistro Butcher, Toon Masked Sorcerer, Vortex Trooper, Yamata Dragon, 7, Card Destruction, Card of Safe Return, Card of Sanctity, Chaos Greed, Combat Contact, Destiny Draw, Dragged Down into the Grave, Fifth Hope, Graceful Charity, Guard Penalty, Heart of the Underdog, Jar Robber, Level Modulation, Lighten the Load, Magical Mallet, Mind Wipe, Mirage of Nightmare, Monster Recovery, Necklace of Command, Pot of Avarice, Pot of Greed, Precious Cards from Beyond, Rare Value, Reload, Spiral Spear Strike, Super Rejuvenation, Upstart Goblin, Appropriate, Disturbance Strategy, Fuh-Rin-Ka-Zan, Gamble, Good Goblin Housekeeping, Jar of Greed, Reckless Greed, Sixth Sense, Supercharge, Treasure Map.

 

Those are the only cards I know of off the top of my head.

[Sixty]

3-Hump Lacooda' date=' Airknight Parshath, Alchemy Circle, Aline Grey, Allure of Darkness, Avatar of the Pot, Batteryman Micro-Cell, Bountiful Artemis, Broww, Huntsman of Dark World, Card Trooper, Chainsaw Insect, Coach Goblin, Cyber Archfiend, Cyber Jar, Cyber Phoenix, Dark Mimic Lv1, Dark Mimic Lv3, Dekoichi the Battlechanted Locomotive, Des Lacooda, Destiny Hero - Defender, Destiny Hero - Disk Commander, Electric Snake, Elemental Hero Bubbleman, Fiber Jar, Flying Saucer Muusik'i, Freed the Matchless General, Helping Robo for Combat, Hiro's Shadow Scout, Majestic Mech - Senku, Masked Sorcerer, Molten Zombie, Morphing Jar, Poison Draw Frog, Royal Magical Library, Sacred Crane, Sasuke Samuri #3, Skelengel, Spirit of the Pot of Greed, The Agent of Wisdom - Mercury, The Bistro Butcher, Toon Masked Sorcerer, Vortex Trooper, Yamata Dragon, 7, Card Destruction, Card of Safe Return, Card of Sanctity, Chaos Greed, Combat Contact, Destiny Draw, Dragged Down into the Grave, Fifth Hope, Graceful Charity, Guard Penalty, Heart of the Underdog, Jar Robber, Level Modulation, Lighten the Load, Magical Mallet, Mind Wipe, Mirage of Nightmare, Monster Recovery, Necklace of Command, Pot of Avarice, Pot of Greed, Precious Cards from Beyond, Rare Value, Reload, Spiral Spear Strike, Super Rejuvenation, Upstart Goblin, Appropriate, Disturbance Strategy, Fuh-Rin-Ka-Zan, Gamble, Good Goblin Housekeeping, Jar of Greed, Reckless Greed, Sixth Sense, Supercharge, Treasure Map.

 

Those are the only cards I know of off the top of my head.

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Paper and pencil are used for drawing cards, too. :P

[Aximil]

3-Hump Lacooda' date=' Airknight Parshath, Alchemy Circle, Alien Grey, Allure of Darkness, Avatar of the Pot, Batteryman Micro-Cell, Bountiful Artemis, Broww, Huntsman of Dark World, Card Trooper, Chainsaw Insect, Coach Goblin, Cyber Archfiend, Cyber Jar, Cyber Phoenix, Dark Mimic Lv1, Dark Mimic Lv3, Dekoichi the Battlechanted Locomotive, Des Lacooda, Destiny Hero - Defender, Destiny Hero - Disk Commander, Electric Snake, Elemental Hero Bubbleman, Fiber Jar, Flying Saucer Muusik'i, Freed the Matchless General, Helping Robo for Combat, Hiro's Shadow Scout, Majestic Mech - Senku, Masked Sorcerer, Molten Zombie, Morphing Jar, Poison Draw Frog, Royal Magical Library, Sacred Crane, Sasuke Samuri #3, Skelengel, Spirit of the Pot of Greed, The Agent of Wisdom - Mercury, The Bistro Butcher, Toon Masked Sorcerer, Vortex Trooper, Yamata Dragon, 7, Card Destruction, Card of Safe Return, Card of Sanctity, Chaos Greed, Combat Contact, Destiny Draw, Dragged Down into the Grave, Fifth Hope, Graceful Charity, Guard Penalty, Heart of the Underdog, Jar Robber, Level Modulation, Lighten the Load, Magical Mallet, Mind Wipe, Mirage of Nightmare, Monster Recovery, Necklace of Command, Pot of Avarice, Pot of Greed, Precious Cards from Beyond, Rare Value, Reload, Spiral Spear Strike, Super Rejuvenation, Upstart Goblin, Appropriate, Disturbance Strategy, Fuh-Rin-Ka-Zan, Gamble, Good Goblin Housekeeping, Jar of Greed, Reckless Greed, Sixth Sense, Supercharge, Treasure Map.

 

Those are the only cards I know of off the top of my head.

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Paper and pencil are used for drawing cards, too. :P

 

That doesn't explain why these cards should be banned or not.

[Whitey]

3-Hump Lacooda' date=' Airknight Parshath, Alchemy Circle, Aline Grey, Allure of Darkness, Avatar of the Pot, Batteryman Micro-Cell, Bountiful Artemis, Broww, Huntsman of Dark World, Card Trooper, Chainsaw Insect, Coach Goblin, Cyber Archfiend, Cyber Jar, Cyber Phoenix, Dark Mimic Lv1, Dark Mimic Lv3, Dekoichi the Battlechanted Locomotive, Des Lacooda, Destiny Hero - Defender, Destiny Hero - Disk Commander, Electric Snake, Elemental Hero Bubbleman, Fiber Jar, Flying Saucer Muusik'i, Freed the Matchless General, Helping Robo for Combat, Hiro's Shadow Scout, Majestic Mech - Senku, Masked Sorcerer, Molten Zombie, Morphing Jar, Poison Draw Frog, Royal Magical Library, Sacred Crane, Sasuke Samuri #3, Skelengel, Spirit of the Pot of Greed, The Agent of Wisdom - Mercury, The Bistro Butcher, Toon Masked Sorcerer, Vortex Trooper, Yamata Dragon, 7, Card Destruction, Card of Safe Return, Card of Sanctity, Chaos Greed, Combat Contact, Destiny Draw, Dragged Down into the Grave, Fifth Hope, Graceful Charity, Guard Penalty, Heart of the Underdog, Jar Robber, Level Modulation, Lighten the Load, Magical Mallet, Mind Wipe, Mirage of Nightmare, Monster Recovery, Necklace of Command, Pot of Avarice, Pot of Greed, Precious Cards from Beyond, Rare Value, Reload, Spiral Spear Strike, Super Rejuvenation, Upstart Goblin, Appropriate, Disturbance Strategy, Fuh-Rin-Ka-Zan, Gamble, Good Goblin Housekeeping, Jar of Greed, Reckless Greed, Sixth Sense, Supercharge, Treasure Map.

 

Those are the only cards I know of off the top of my head.

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Paper and pencil are used for drawing cards, too. :P

dont for get pens and markers! lol

[J-Max]

Most Draw cards are +0 Meaning that you Pay to Recieve. For example Destiny Draw requires the Spell Card and a Destiny Hero to Draw 2 Cards. Trade-In requires the Spell Card and a Level 8+ Monster. You get the idea. Cards like Pot of Greed were banned due to it being a Instant +1.

[Sixty]

3-Hump Lacooda' date=' Airknight Parshath, Alchemy Circle, Alien Grey, Allure of Darkness, Avatar of the Pot, Batteryman Micro-Cell, Bountiful Artemis, Broww, Huntsman of Dark World, [s']Card Trooper[/s], Chainsaw Insect, Coach Goblin, Cyber Archfiend, Cyber Jar, Cyber Phoenix, Dark Mimic Lv1, Dark Mimic Lv3, Dekoichi the Battlechanted Locomotive, Des Lacooda, Destiny Hero - Defender, Destiny Hero - Disk Commander, Electric Snake, Elemental Hero Bubbleman, Fiber Jar, Flying Saucer Muusik'i, Freed the Matchless General, Helping Robo for Combat, Hiro's Shadow Scout, Majestic Mech - Senku, Masked Sorcerer, Molten Zombie, Morphing Jar, Poison Draw Frog, Royal Magical Library, Sacred Crane, Sasuke Samuri #3, Skelengel, Spirit of the Pot of Greed, The Agent of Wisdom - Mercury, The Bistro Butcher, Toon Masked Sorcerer, Vortex Trooper, Yamata Dragon, 7, Card Destruction, Card of Safe Return, Card of Sanctity, Chaos Greed, Combat Contact, Destiny Draw, Dragged Down into the Grave, Fifth Hope, Graceful Charity, Guard Penalty, Heart of the Underdog, Jar Robber, Level Modulation, Lighten the Load, Magical Mallet, Mind Wipe, Mirage of Nightmare, Monster Recovery, Necklace of Command, Pot of Avarice, Pot of Greed, Precious Cards from Beyond, Rare Value, Reload, Spiral Spear Strike, Super Rejuvenation, Upstart Goblin, Appropriate, Disturbance Strategy, Fuh-Rin-Ka-Zan, Gamble, Good Goblin Housekeeping, Jar of Greed, Reckless Greed, Sixth Sense, Supercharge, Treasure Map. Added: Trade-In

 

Striked cards should be banned.

Bold cards should be limited.

[JesusofChaos™]

If the cost is balanced by the effect it can stay

[Aximil]

How is Jar of Greed allowed to have three copies? It doesn't have a consequence.

[J-Max]

It requires setting on the Field also it is a +0 and can easily be stopped by Monsters like Jinzo. As I said before as long as there is a Price then it should be fine.

[JesusofChaos™]

Because it is a trap and it only allows you to draw 1, people use reckless greed instead

[Tickle Me Emo]

3-Hump Lacooda: Weak card, only way to swarm it is with IFS. Bad card is bad.

Airknight Parshath: 1 tribute for a 1900. It deserves the limit due to its trample ability.

Alchemy Circle: You take some serious damage

Alien Grey: Must be flipped up before being attacked and destroyed.

Allure of Darkness: Card itself isnt good. Other cards used to be really abusable with it, but due to the mid format change, its not broken. Should be at 3.

Avatar of the Pot: Pot of Greed is banned.

Batteryman Micro-Cell: Look at Alien Grey

Bountiful Artemis: Needs specific kind of cards, which are hard to use anyway. Only abusable with Bribe and Solemn.

Broww, Huntsman of Dark World: Gotta be discarded. Only useable in specific deck types.

Card Trooper: Mill deck, powers up, draw card when dies? Deserves banlist.

Chainsaw Insect: Opponent draws, not you.

Coach Goblin: Weak monster, no hand advantage.

Cyber Archfiend: Easily destroyed, low attack makes easy to kill target. Must have an empty hand.

Cyber Jar: In a nut shell: Swarm field, draw cards. Broken card is Broken.

Cyber Phoenix: Weak monster. Only 1 card.

Dark Mimic Lv1: Weak Monster, only 1 card, flip effect makes target for NoC and Mystic Swordsman

Dark Mimic Lv3: Weak monster, only 1 card.

Dekoichi the Battlechanted Locomotive: Draw 1 card only, needs other face up weak monsters to draw more.

Des Lacooda: Must be flip summoned.

Destiny Hero - Defender: Opponent draws, no you.

Destiny Hero - Disk Commander: Alone not broken. Other cards make him the most abusable thus the most broken draw engine in game.

Electric Snake: Its gotta be discarded from your opponents card effect.

Elemental Hero Bubbleman: For this to work you need to have been Chaos Emped and then drawn this on your next turn assuming you lived the emp.

Fiber Jar: Broken card is broken.

Flying Saucer Muusik'i: Tribute monster with 1000 atk. Opponent needs to attack it to get it face up. Who would atk a monster that takes a tribute?

Freed the Matchless General: A repeating RotA. Deserves limit or ban.

Helping Robo for Combat: No hand advantage.

 

Will finish tomorrow.

 

[spoiler=still to finish]Hiro's Shadow Scout, Majestic Mech - Senku, Masked Sorcerer, Molten Zombie, Morphing Jar, Poison Draw Frog, Royal Magical Library, Sacred Crane, Sasuke Samuri #3, Skelengel, Spirit of the Pot of Greed, The Agent of Wisdom - Mercury, The Bistro Butcher, Toon Masked Sorcerer, Vortex Trooper, Yamata Dragon, 7, Card Destruction, Card of Safe Return, Card of Sanctity, Chaos Greed, Combat Contact, Destiny Draw, Dragged Down into the Grave, Fifth Hope, Graceful Charity, Guard Penalty, Heart of the Underdog, Jar Robber, Level Modulation, Lighten the Load, Magical Mallet, Mind Wipe, Mirage of Nightmare, Monster Recovery, Necklace of Command, Pot of Avarice, Pot of Greed, Precious Cards from Beyond, Rare Value, Reload, Spiral Spear Strike, Super Rejuvenation, Upstart Goblin, Appropriate, Disturbance Strategy, Fuh-Rin-Ka-Zan, Gamble, Good Goblin Housekeeping, Jar of Greed, Reckless Greed, Sixth Sense, Supercharge, Treasure Map.

 

[J-Max]

One of my Personal Fave Draw cards is Rare Value. I'm trying to build up a Crystal Beast deck around the Crystal Abundance theme and I adore Rare Value.

[Aximil]

I don't like Crystal Beasts, since they take up your Spell and Trap card zones.

[tonisanoob]

lol ---^

 

crystal beasts pwn harder thn i do at mgo

 

also how is drawing a bad thing in your eyes

 

the more you can draw in a turn the faster you get your win condition more crap in the grave to use winning during your first turn amongst other things, this entire games atm is based purly (or at least almost) on drawing cards

[Exiro]

3-Hump Lacooda' date=' Airknight Parshath, Alchemy Circle, Alien Grey, Allure of Darkness, Avatar of the Pot, Batteryman Micro-Cell, Bountiful Artemis, Broww, Huntsman of Dark World, [s']Card Trooper[/s], Chainsaw Insect, Coach Goblin, Cyber Archfiend, Cyber Jar, Cyber Phoenix, Dark Mimic Lv1, Dark Mimic Lv3, Dekoichi the Battlechanted Locomotive, Des Lacooda, Destiny Hero - Defender, Destiny Hero - Disk Commander, Electric Snake, Elemental Hero Bubbleman, Fiber Jar, Flying Saucer Muusik'i, Freed the Matchless General, Helping Robo for Combat, Hiro's Shadow Scout, Majestic Mech - Senku, Masked Sorcerer, Molten Zombie, Morphing Jar, Poison Draw Frog, Royal Magical Library, Sacred Crane, Sasuke Samuri #3, Skelengel, Spirit of the Pot of Greed, The Agent of Wisdom - Mercury, The Bistro Butcher, Toon Masked Sorcerer, Vortex Trooper, Yamata Dragon, 7, Card Destruction, Card of Safe Return, Card of Sanctity, Chaos Greed, Combat Contact, Destiny Draw, Dragged Down into the Grave, Fifth Hope, Graceful Charity, Guard Penalty, Heart of the Underdog, Jar Robber, Level Modulation, Lighten the Load, Magical Mallet, Mind Wipe, Mirage of Nightmare, Monster Recovery, Necklace of Command, Pot of Avarice, Pot of Greed, Precious Cards from Beyond, Rare Value, Reload, Spiral Spear Strike, Super Rejuvenation, Upstart Goblin, Appropriate, Disturbance Strategy, Fuh-Rin-Ka-Zan, Gamble, Good Goblin Housekeeping, Jar of Greed, Reckless Greed, Sixth Sense, Supercharge, Treasure Map. Added: Trade-In

 

Striked cards are banned.

Bold cards are limited.

 

Except they aren't.

 

Don't try to teach him a fake ban list.

[Sixty]

3-Hump Lacooda' date=' Airknight Parshath, Alchemy Circle, Alien Grey, Allure of Darkness, Avatar of the Pot, Batteryman Micro-Cell, Bountiful Artemis, Broww, Huntsman of Dark World, [s']Card Trooper[/s], Chainsaw Insect, Coach Goblin, Cyber Archfiend, Cyber Jar, Cyber Phoenix, Dark Mimic Lv1, Dark Mimic Lv3, Dekoichi the Battlechanted Locomotive, Des Lacooda, Destiny Hero - Defender, Destiny Hero - Disk Commander, Electric Snake, Elemental Hero Bubbleman, Fiber Jar, Flying Saucer Muusik'i, Freed the Matchless General, Helping Robo for Combat, Hiro's Shadow Scout, Majestic Mech - Senku, Masked Sorcerer, Molten Zombie, Morphing Jar, Poison Draw Frog, Royal Magical Library, Sacred Crane, Sasuke Samuri #3, Skelengel, Spirit of the Pot of Greed, The Agent of Wisdom - Mercury, The Bistro Butcher, Toon Masked Sorcerer, Vortex Trooper, Yamata Dragon, 7, Card Destruction, Card of Safe Return, Card of Sanctity, Chaos Greed, Combat Contact, Destiny Draw, Dragged Down into the Grave, Fifth Hope, Graceful Charity, Guard Penalty, Heart of the Underdog, Jar Robber, Level Modulation, Lighten the Load, Magical Mallet, Mind Wipe, Mirage of Nightmare, Monster Recovery, Necklace of Command, Pot of Avarice, Pot of Greed, Precious Cards from Beyond, Rare Value, Reload, Spiral Spear Strike, Super Rejuvenation, Upstart Goblin, Appropriate, Disturbance Strategy, Fuh-Rin-Ka-Zan, Gamble, Good Goblin Housekeeping, Jar of Greed, Reckless Greed, Sixth Sense, Supercharge, Treasure Map. Added: Trade-In

 

Striked cards should be banned.

Bold cards should be limited.

 

Except they aren't.

 

Don't try to teach him a fake ban list.

 

 

I'm not trying to.

 

I meant to type "should be" there.