Bin Laden didn't blow up the projects.

[Static]

I've always found this debate interesting.

 

Now, the question is not whom actually blew up the towers, because that was obviously not our government.

 

The argument is whether or not the US government is at complete fault for its happening. Did they allow it to happen, did they know in advance it was going to happen, did they want it to happen?

 

My imput on this issue is that we knew, we allowed it, and we got what we wanted for its happening, and that propaganda plays a huge roll in what most Americans believe concerning the issue.

 

I wish to hear some other opinions before I present an argument.

 

The only thing I don't want to hear is, well, its not our fault because they actually did it. Smart asses that do not contribute get butthurt from a scary child eating monster from Pans Labyrinth.

[Prince Poison]

Well I suppose that the US govrment knew what was going to happen and MAYBE they have their role on planning the attack. Such attack would be a great opportunity to start a war on the middle east for the oil and such. The proof for this is that they were able to catch Sadam Huseyn but not Binladen? That makes you think about it.

[Willieh]

Wow....I have HIGH doubts of this being true. We would know the truth by now if that were what really happened. Michael Moore would have jumped all over it with his fat ass and made a movie called, "Bowling for the government sucks balls".

[Static]

Well I suppose that the US govrment knew what was going to happen and MAYBE they have their role on planning the attack. Such attack would be a great opportunity to start a war on the middle east for the oil and such. The proof for this is that they were able to catch Sadam Huseyn but not Binladen? That makes you think about it.

 

How would they have planned it? Someone would have known, said something, we would know if we were involved in the actual happening.

 

However, if we KNEW it was going to happen, but let it happen, it is a lot less evil, and there are reasons to think this is true.

 

1. History, We knew the Germans were going to blow up the Luscitania if it was to set sail. It set sail anyway, they blew it up, we called it unjust and jumped into WWI

 

Dec 4 1941, Australian Intel tells us that the japanese are planning to bomb Pearl Harbor. Three days later, when the radar, a new invention at this time, shows hundreds of what appear to be planes coming for the harbor, it is ignored and passed off as a mechanical failure. They bomb us, we jump into WWII.

 

We completely made up the excuse to send soldiers to Vietnam. Some ship in some harbor that the Vietkong never really blew up.

 

It is highly likely that we knew this was going to happen, and just let it, and used it as an excuse to go to war, but it is not likely that we actually did anything to assist the actual destruction of our own buildings.

 

2, They had bomb sniffing dogs check the building 3 days before its occurence as an emergency precaution. 3 Days later, BANG, they fall, America becomes uber Patriotic, invasion of a country, completely unjustified in action, begins, and eventually leads us to invading Iraq on the grounds to find the weapons that WE SOLD TO HIM IN THE 80's.

 

We didn't do it, but we are happy it happened, because now Good ol Rockafeller and friends can make moneyz.

[Cin]

They do say terrorists only have to get lucky once, the intelligence needs to get luckily hundreds if not thousands of times.

 

But I've very much doubt that the US didn't have something to say there is going to be an attack, I mean it must have involved alot of people to get it prepared (like the UK had some idea something was up with the 7/7 and 21/7 bombers).

[Willieh]

Well I suppose that the US govrment knew what was going to happen and MAYBE they have their role on planning the attack. Such attack would be a great opportunity to start a war on the middle east for the oil and such. The proof for this is that they were able to catch Sadam Huseyn but not Binladen? That makes you think about it.

 

How would they have planned it? Someone would have known' date=' said something, we would know if we were involved in the actual happening.

 

However, if we KNEW it was going to happen, but let it happen, it is a lot less evil, and there are reasons to think this is true.

 

1. History, We knew the Germans were going to blow up the Luscitania if it was to set sail. It set sail anyway, they blew it up, we called it unjust and jumped into WWI

 

Dec 4 1941, Australian Intel tells us that the japanese are planning to bomb Pearl Harbor. Three days later, when the radar, a new invention at this time, shows hundreds of what appear to be planes coming for the harbor, it is ignored and passed off as a mechanical failure. They bomb us, we jump into WWII.

 

We completely made up the excuse to send soldiers to Vietnam. Some ship in some harbor that the Vietkong never really blew up.

 

It is highly likely that we knew this was going to happen, and just let it, and used it as an excuse to go to war, but it is not likely that we actually did anything to assist the actual destruction of our own buildings.

 

2, They had bomb sniffing dogs check the building 3 days before its occurence as an emergency precaution. 3 Days later, BANG, they fall, America becomes uber Patriotic, invasion of a country, completely unjustified in action, begins, and eventually leads us to invading Iraq on the grounds to find the weapons that WE SOLD TO HIM IN THE 80's.

 

We didn't do it, but we are happy it happened, because now Good ol Rockafeller and friends can make moneyz.

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Answered your own thread with probably the best answer available :D

[Bloodrun]

Yeah they did allow it

they went through customs, and the security saw the knifes, and the guns

and decided not to do sheet about it

 

I mean, if you see some foriegner with a gun, non the least, trying to get on a plane, ugh hello

atleast ask them if they have a permitt -.-"

[Willieh]

Yeah they did allow it

they went through customs' date=' and the security saw the knifes, and the guns

and decided not to do s*** about it

 

I mean, if you see some foriegner with a gun, non the least, trying to get on a plane, ugh hello

atleast ask them if they have a permitt -.-"

[/quote']

 

Why would you use a knife to hijack a plane?

 

well that's beside the point...

 

I doubt the government predicted or planned out 9/11. It was probably a gigantic tragedy that worked out to our advantage in the end. They probably found a way to smuggle the weapons onto a plane. And you must remember, airline security wasn't this tight until after 9/11.

[Bloodrun]

Yeah they did allow it

they went through customs' date=' and the security saw the knifes, and the guns

and decided not to do s*** about it

 

I mean, if you see some foriegner with a gun, non the least, trying to get on a plane, ugh hello

atleast ask them if they have a permitt -.-"

[/quote']

 

Why would you use a knife to hijack a plane?

 

well that's beside the point...

 

I doubt the government predicted or planned out 9/11. It was probably a gigantic tragedy that worked out to our advantage in the end. They probably found a way to smuggle the weapons onto a plane. And you must remember, airline security wasn't this tight until after 9/11.

 

not the government

-.-"

plane security

 

and about the comment on the knife

if i put a knife up to your throat, there would be very few things you wouldnt do

but i wouldnt so you would have nothing to worry about

[Willieh]

Yeah they did allow it

they went through customs' date=' and the security saw the knifes, and the guns

and decided not to do s*** about it

 

I mean, if you see some foriegner with a gun, non the least, trying to get on a plane, ugh hello

atleast ask them if they have a permitt -.-"

[/quote']

 

Why would you use a knife to hijack a plane?

 

well that's beside the point...

 

I doubt the government predicted or planned out 9/11. It was probably a gigantic tragedy that worked out to our advantage in the end. They probably found a way to smuggle the weapons onto a plane. And you must remember, airline security wasn't this tight until after 9/11.

 

not the government

-.-"

plane security

 

and about the comment on the knife

if i put a knife up to your throat, there would be very few things you wouldnt do

but i wouldnt so you would have nothing to worry about

 

You're not allowed to stand up on planes. You would have to walk down the aisle and shank the Stuartess first. Which would probably result in someone pinning you down. Here's all I'm saying, the airlines/government/any one from the inside, had nothing to do with the twin tower bombing. And I think (I'm not completely sure) but I think that working at an air line counts as a government job.

[Bloodrun]

Yeah they did allow it

they went through customs' date=' and the security saw the knifes, and the guns

and decided not to do s*** about it

 

I mean, if you see some foriegner with a gun, non the least, trying to get on a plane, ugh hello

atleast ask them if they have a permitt -.-"

[/quote']

 

Why would you use a knife to hijack a plane?

 

well that's beside the point...

 

I doubt the government predicted or planned out 9/11. It was probably a gigantic tragedy that worked out to our advantage in the end. They probably found a way to smuggle the weapons onto a plane. And you must remember, airline security wasn't this tight until after 9/11.

 

not the government

-.-"

plane security

 

and about the comment on the knife

if i put a knife up to your throat, there would be very few things you wouldnt do

but i wouldnt so you would have nothing to worry about

 

You're not allowed to stand up on planes. You would have to walk down the aisle and shank the Stuartess first. Which would probably result in someone pinning you down. Here's all I'm saying, the airlines/government/any one from the inside, had nothing to do with the twin tower bombing. And I think (I'm not completely sure) but I think that working at an air line counts as a government job.

 

uour over thinking things -.-"

[Cyber Altair]

I believe the attacks were known and they weren't stopped, US was always at conflict with countries such as Iraq, Afghanistan and Iran but they never really had something that they could fool the world with to use it as a reason and justification for the wars that happened. The government used the attacks and justified their attacks as an attempt to stop "terrorists". It's funny how they say people in the middle east are terrorists when it's just the opposite, i mean what logic justifies attacks on a country for oil?

 

Anyway the attacks certainly weren't set up by the government but yet it was allowed as a justification for their "greater cause"