scientists have gone too far..........

[Bakura Vessal]

every-thing we have today... all the things we take for granted are the wonders of modern science. Computers to cars, medicine to game consoles. But have scientists now GONE TO FAR... The are doing inhumane testing on animals and thinking up new ways to kill people. There is now even talk of bio-warfare..... So even though they are helping us. Have they gone to far......

[2sick4u]

And your source is..?

O.o".

Since honestly, I think everyones happy being Nuclear.

EDIT: Thought I'd reply to the topic regardless.

 

Okay.

every-thing we have today... all the things we take for granted are the wonders of modern science. Computers to cars' date=' medicine to game consoles. But have scientists now GONE TO FAR... The are doing inhumane testing on animals and thinking up new ways to kill people. There is now even talk of bio-warfare..... So even though they are helping us. Have they gone to far......

[/quote']

Now now, give mother nature some credit.

We got here mostly based on other things doing, and if you think about it, technology probably has a more feeble grasp on the world then most others. Since technology isn't manufactured for much more than a luxury, or a tool. "Tool" including weaponry of any nature, including Nuclear. =].

Now, if you think about it, all technology does is bring upon minor demise, to our own population. Self inflicted harm, if you ask me. However, things like the sun, probably the most over-looked thing in keeping our existence possible, is taken for granted. Technology isn't that major of a thing, because as it stands, technologies severely overrated.

Animals, well, who cares? The only animals that should be preserved are ones that specifically relate to nature, and in turn, nature that specifically relates to us. (Being most, for wood.) Others, though I sound like an jabroni, aren't that necessary for our existence, which needs preserving sometime soon, which is mainly dependent on anyone giving a damn.

New ways to kill people? Stupid comment.

Considering we have effective enough ways as it stands, the only way it could be "new" would be a quicker, more genocidal way of death. Which, quite frankly, isn't a bad way to go, knowing how quick it's becoming.

BioWarfare's old news, haruhi. Remember Anthrax? probably not, since you obviously don't look up what you talk about.

-_-".

Scientists are just continuing what they started.

Simple.

2sick~

[Guest JoshIcy]

"Curiosity killed the cat and warned the others"...

 

Granted some are immoral and whatnot but they have not gone too far... If anything it helps us in one way or another. Helps more understanding etc. Thus is the goal of a scientist...

[VainZiler]

And this is...new? Seriously, scientists have been doing this since before the internet. Something that scientists are up to now are trying to perfect humane-animal hybrids. After the first successful hybrid, they're ordered to kill it after 10 days.

 

Science can't go too far as there is no limit to science, only a limit to human comprehension and determination.

[Bakura Vessal]

i still think animals shouldnt be harmed

[Pikachu]

animals not harmed: agreed

but seriously, you know the quote 'there's unlimited knowledge, it's impossible to unlock everything' who knows maybe they'll discover a new way to kill cancer.

but really, we should just let the scientists 'research' a bit longer...

[VainZiler]

How are animals below or above us? Riddle me this, it's not alright right to test on animals, but it's fine for humans? And vise versa to those that do think it's fine to test on animals. How is any one living creature have more worth then the other?

 

In the end, we're all nothing but living organisms temporarily sharing the earth till our timely extinction. What does it matter if we try and expand our knowledge some?

[Bakura Vessal]

no living creatures have rights over other creatures.

 

if you read proberly i dont want anyone to be harmed

[2sick4u]

no living creatures have rights over other creatures.

 

if you read proberly i dont want anyone to be harmed

Actually' date=' I disagree.

Those with intelligence are usually given dominance over others, much like what's happening right now.

I don't believe mindless creatures that just rummage and hunt deserve all that much protection; let alone rights.

Seriously, creatures have never been equal; Or had rights.

Everyone knows the only rule set in place is "Survive."

Our temporary reign as "ruler of earth" isn't because of the characteristics dominant animals more commonly show. (Strength, aggresion..) Rather, it's based on ourselves being more intelligent.

Our dominance is shown through this, meaning.. Everything else should be contributed to our survival. We are that dominant, so, why not?

=/.

Rights for creatures never existed.

Also, you don't want anyone to be harmed?

Just for a little random fact, in the U.S, their is a murder every 23 minutes.

Broaden your mind enough?

;'].

2sick~

[J-Max]

We want to pass our Genes onto future Genrations. We learn these Technological advances to suceed. I know the whole issue on Animal Cruelty is wrong but a small sacrifice to aid the greater good is fine by me. (Hell I even offered to be a Test Subject for something once) As of the whole "Killing People" thing? These are just the nasty side effects of Technological Advancement. Greed, Power and many other things contribute to the want to own Nuclear or Biological Weapons. We have seen the power of a Atom Bomb. It is devestating.

[silverlighted]

no living creatures have rights over other creatures.

 

if you read proberly i dont want anyone to be harmed

Actually' date=' I disagree.

Those with intelligence are usually given dominance over others, much like what's happening right now.

I don't believe mindless creatures that just rummage and hunt deserve all that much protection; let alone rights.

Seriously, creatures have never been equal; Or had rights.

Everyone knows the only rule set in place is "Survive."

Our temporary reign as "ruler of earth" isn't because of the characteristics dominant animals more commonly show. (Strength, aggresion..) Rather, it's based on ourselves being more intelligent.

Our dominance is shown through this, meaning.. Everything else should be contributed to our survival. We are that dominant, so, why not?

=/.

Rights for creatures never existed.

Also, you don't want anyone to be harmed?

Just for a little random fact, in the U.S, their is a murder every 23 minutes.

Broaden your mind enough?

;'].

2sick~

 

lol, she said that no one has rights over another, and you said that no one has rights.

Fits, lol.

 

Anyways, it would seem that you're mostly talking about what IS. She's talking about what she wants to BE (or should BE).

The former doesn't relate to the latter other than the latter is an alteration of the former. The former can't be used to disagree with an aspiration...unless...you'd prefer to side with what's "naturally" happened...but then whatever she comes up with came out naturally too, lol.

 

To the OP, this might be a pessimistic view, but I think many scientific developments were driven by some sort of destructive aims, lol. And animal testing as occured for quite some day. In fact these days there are more conditions to make sure they're "humane" testing (if you believe in such a thing). It's just viewed as necessary cost to advance the world.

 

So, is science going too far?

More like, is science fair in the costs that it takes?

And frankly...

 

I don't know. lol

[VainZiler]

if you read proberly i dont want anyone to be harmed

 

If you could spell properly, or at least learn how to use spell check, I would have an easier time reading what you have to say.

[Gogeta™]

I really dont care what scientists do as long as it doesnt kill.

[2sick4u]

if you read proberly i dont want anyone to be harmed

 

If you could spell properly' date=' or at least learn how to use spell check, I would have an easier time reading what you have to say.

[/quote']

Lulz. Expected, but still funny. =].

no living creatures have rights over other creatures.

 

if you read proberly i dont want anyone to be harmed

Actually' date=' I disagree.

Those with intelligence are usually given dominance over others, much like what's happening right now.

I don't believe mindless creatures that just rummage and hunt deserve all that much protection; let alone rights.

Seriously, creatures have never been equal; Or had rights.

Everyone knows the only rule set in place is "Survive."

Our temporary reign as "ruler of earth" isn't because of the characteristics dominant animals more commonly show. (Strength, aggresion..) Rather, it's based on ourselves being more intelligent.

Our dominance is shown through this, meaning.. Everything else should be contributed to our survival. We are that dominant, so, why not?

=/.

Rights for creatures never existed.

Also, you don't want anyone to be harmed?

Just for a little random fact, in the U.S, their is a murder every 23 minutes.

Broaden your mind enough?

;'].

2sick~

 

lol, she said that no one has rights over another, and you said that no one has rights.

Fits, lol.

 

Anyways, it would seem that you're mostly talking about what IS. She's talking about what she wants to BE (or should BE).

The former doesn't relate to the latter other than the latter is an alteration of the former. The former can't be used to disagree with an aspiration...unless...you'd prefer to side with what's "naturally" happened...but then whatever she comes up with came out naturally too, lol.

Lol. =]. Buddy, SOS haruhi's a guy. ;]. Don't feel bad, I though he was a chick to.

 

Okay, anyway. He may be talking about what he wants it to be; all though, saying ideals along those lines is actually not answering the question. He asked wether "Science had gone to far" not "Is this what you want science to be?" so technically, I was there for the win. ;].

Bah, just for the record, screw your paradox's =].

Now.

To the OP' date=' this might be a pessimistic view, but I think many scientific developments were driven by some sort of destructive aims, lol. And animal testing as occured for quite some day. In fact these days there are more conditions to make sure they're "humane" testing (if you believe in such a thing). It's just viewed as necessary cost to advance the world.

 

So, is science going too far?

More like, is science fair in the costs that it takes?

And frankly...

 

I don't know. lol

[/quote']

Win. Definitely.

We don't know if the cost's worth it, mainly because it's not our decision to make.

=].

2sick~

[Bakura Vessal]

no living creatures have rights over other creatures.

 

if you read proberly i dont want anyone to be harmed

Actually' date=' I disagree.

Those with intelligence are usually given dominance over others, much like what's happening right now.

I don't believe mindless creatures that just rummage and hunt deserve all that much protection; let alone rights.

Seriously, creatures have never been equal; Or had rights.

Everyone knows the only rule set in place is "Survive."

Our temporary reign as "ruler of earth" isn't because of the characteristics dominant animals more commonly show. (Strength, aggresion..) Rather, it's based on ourselves being more intelligent.

Our dominance is shown through this, meaning.. Everything else should be contributed to our survival. We are that dominant, so, why not?

=/.

Rights for creatures never existed.

Also, you don't want anyone to be harmed?

Just for a little random fact, in the U.S, their is a murder every 23 minutes.

Broaden your mind enough?

;'].

2sick~

 

lol, she said that no one has rights over another, and you said that no one has rights.

Fits, lol.

 

Anyways, it would seem that you're mostly talking about what IS. She's talking about what she wants to BE (or should BE).

The former doesn't relate to the latter other than the latter is an alteration of the former. The former can't be used to disagree with an aspiration...unless...you'd prefer to side with what's "naturally" happened...but then whatever she comes up with came out naturally too, lol.

 

To the OP, this might be a pessimistic view, but I think many scientific developments were driven by some sort of destructive aims, lol. And animal testing as occured for quite some day. In fact these days there are more conditions to make sure they're "humane" testing (if you believe in such a thing). It's just viewed as necessary cost to advance the world.

 

So, is science going too far?

More like, is science fair in the costs that it takes?

And frankly...

 

I don't know. lol

lol im a guy

 

anyway i just think that animals shouldnt be harmed i have a dog at home and quite frankly i prefure him over most humans (no one is ever nice much to me anyway)

 

and you know what i have a reason why i like hentai and stuff want to know

 

because all the girls i met are bi*ches anyway all they look for is money or good looks or athletic abillity or intelligence.

 

the only thing i can do good is be nice to people and quite frankly i screw up there too

look before you diss animals the one creatures who accaully be nice back i suggest you think and shut the hell up.

 

i am sorry i am in a crancy mood i have just about had it with women

[Yogg-Saron]

Thing is, scientists have been researching biochemical warfare, different pest control diseases and such from WW1. If you do not know this, you fail my friend. They HAVE been doing it for A LOT of years, and NOW you are just starting to debate? This doesn't make sense. Also if your going to argue that something might go wrong, well as technology gets better, safety precautions do as well, so there is no sense in worrying about nonsense like this. Also, if a HUGE biochemical accident happened, and it wiped most of the population of humans, there are reserves in Iceland and Greenland JUST FOR an event like that, so the human population could start over again with seeds and such.

[VainZiler]

because all the girls i met are bi*ches anyway all they look for is money or good looks or athletic abillity or intelligence.

So in other words, you're admitting you have nothing of self value? I almost want to write this off as too easy and leave this alone but... just has to be pointed out none the less.

[silverlighted]

Lol. =]. Buddy' date=' SOS haruhi's a guy. ;']. Don't feel bad, I though he was a chick to.

 

Okay, anyway. He may be talking about what he wants it to be; all though, saying ideals along those lines is actually not answering the question. He asked wether "Science had gone to far" not "Is this what you want science to be?" so technically, I was there for the win. ;].

Bah, just for the record, screw your paradox's =].

Now.

 

Gotcha. True that.

Screw my paradoxes? lol talking about my new label thing? haha

 

Win. Definitely.

We don't know if the cost's worth it' date=' mainly because it's not our decision to make.

='].

2sick~

 

lol, I'm glad that my statement where I confessed my utter ignorance, you labelled as win, haha

 

...sometime, it really does seem like that's the best answer...

(though, the hell if I'm gonna stand for that, lol)

 

 

lol im a guy

 

anyway i just think that animals shouldnt be harmed i have a dog at home and quite frankly i prefure him over most humans (no one is ever nice much to me anyway)

 

and you know what i have a reason why i like hentai and stuff want to know

 

because all the girls i met are bi*ches anyway all they look for is money or good looks or athletic abillity or intelligence.

 

the only thing i can do good is be nice to people and quite frankly i screw up there too

look before you diss animals the one creatures who accaully be nice back i suggest you think and shut the hell up.

 

i am sorry i am in a crancy mood i have just about had it with women

 

I'm sorry! lol, instinctive pronoun use when faced with a female avi.

Bah genderbiased pronouns.

 

Anyways though, I didn't diss animals, although I'd argue about the women part, seeing as how I'm sure women have caused me as much problems as the dog that chased me when I was little, lol...and the latter is a risk of injury.

 

I was basically sharing the sentiment that I don't think it's right that animals should be harmed...but I'm not entirely sure about my reasoning. It's still ambiguous for me, and I dunno, it's the whole issue of sacrifices in general and what sort of sacrifices are permissible, and it's one that I haven't felt strongly on yet.

[Tkill93]

lol im a guy

 

anyway i just think that animals shouldnt be harmed i have a dog at home and quite frankly i prefure him over most humans (no one is ever nice much to me anyway)

 

and you know what i have a reason why i like hentai and stuff want to know

 

because all the girls i met are bi*ches anyway all they look for is money or good looks or athletic abillity or intelligence.

 

the only thing i can do good is be nice to people and quite frankly i screw up there too

look before you diss animals the one creatures who accaully be nice back i suggest you think and shut the hell up.

 

i am sorry i am in a crancy mood i have just about had it with women

 

Well, that's your little life.

 

You think when a Lion see's a human they think " Oh, look we're all equal, let me go over there and give him a hug" Or a great white. " oh hai fishyz can we play? " Products need to be tested, the value of a humans life is greater than an animals, and thousands of people would die if they didn't test products on living things.

 

By thinking up ways to kill people they can also think up ways to prevent it.

 

Plus you have no right to generalize women like that. There are plenty of men who are exactly the same.

[Bakura Vessal]

lol im a guy

 

anyway i just think that animals shouldnt be harmed i have a dog at home and quite frankly i prefure him over most humans (no one is ever nice much to me anyway)

 

and you know what i have a reason why i like hentai and stuff want to know

 

because all the girls i met are bi*ches anyway all they look for is money or good looks or athletic abillity or intelligence.

 

the only thing i can do good is be nice to people and quite frankly i screw up there too

look before you diss animals the one creatures who accaully be nice back i suggest you think and shut the hell up.

 

i am sorry i am in a crancy mood i have just about had it with women

 

Well' date=' that's your little life.

 

You think when a Lion see's a human they think " Oh, look we're all equal, let me go over there and give him a hug" Or a great white. " oh hai fishyz can we play? " Products need to be tested, the value of a humans life is greater than an animals, and thousands of people would die if they didn't test products on living things.

 

By thinking up ways to kill people they can also think up ways to prevent it.

 

Plus you have no right to generalize women like that. There are plenty of men who are exactly the same.

[/quote']

sorry i was just in a pissed off mood when i typed that.

[Guest PikaPerson01]

This topic is stupid, as no one is citing any sources.

[VainZiler]

This topic is stupid' date=' as no one is citing any sources.

[/quote']

 

Riddle me this: If a topic is stupid, then why bother posting in it in the first place?

[Static]

no living creatures have rights over other creatures.

 

if you read proberly i dont want anyone to be harmed

 

Then nothing gets done.

 

What will happen will happen. Just accept whats going on if you don't plan on making this a worthwhile debate, as all this is is a silly childish argument over whether we can use animals.

[Bakura Vessal]

no living creatures have rights over other creatures.

 

if you read proberly i dont want anyone to be harmed

 

Then nothing gets done.

 

What will happen will happen. Just accept whats going on if you don't plan on making this a worthwhile debate' date=' as all this is is a silly childish argument over whether we can use animals.

[/quote']its still cruel would you like it if you were being experemented on agenced your will?

 

and i still think animals have rights no matter what anyone says

[Tkill93]

no living creatures have rights over other creatures.

 

if you read proberly i dont want anyone to be harmed

 

Then nothing gets done.

 

What will happen will happen. Just accept whats going on if you don't plan on making this a worthwhile debate' date=' as all this is is a silly childish argument over whether we can use animals.

[/quote']its still cruel

 

That's your opinion.

 

But it's not going to change anytime soon, so go join PETA.

 

Oh how I loathe PETA.