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Would you prefer to play under my banlist, or the one coming into play, supposedly? (Try very hard not to be bias if I hurt a decktype you like.)  

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  1. 1. Would you prefer to play under my banlist, or the one coming into play, supposedly? (Try very hard not to be bias if I hurt a decktype you like.)

    • I would play in it if it was offical, of course. Could be interesting...
    • If your banlist was real, I'd be taking a 6 month break from yu-gi-oh.


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Warning: this is long.

 

I am absolutely infuriated about the potential September 1st, 2008 ban list. If this list is true, it shows that Konami has no concern for our meta or the flaws in it during anytime where there is no world wide compatition.

 

Before I say anything else, let me show you the supposed B/R list, just to make sure it's fresh in your minds.

 

Forbidden Cards:

The following cards cannot be put into a deck:

 

Victory Dragon Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End

Chaos Sorcerer

Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning

Sinister Serpent

Witch of the Black Forest

Dark Magician of Chaos

Thousand-Eyes Restrict

Cyber Jar

Makyura the Destructor

Tsukuyomi

Destiny Hero - Disk Commander

Cyber - Stein

Tribe - Infecting Virus

Fiber Jar

Magical Scientist

Yata - Garasu

Magician of Faith

Mirage of Nightmare

Delinquent Duo

Painful Choice

The Forceful Sentry

Pot of Greed

Change of Heart

Raigeki

Dimension Fusion

Butterfly Dagger - Elma

Graceful Charity

Harpie's Feather Duster

Premature Burial

Dark Hole

Last Will

Confiscation

Snatch Steal

Metamorphosis

Imperial Order

Exchange of the Spirit

Call of the Haunted

Time Seal

Last Turn

Ring of Destruction

 

Restriction Cards:

Only 1 copy of the following cards can be put into a deck:

 

D.D. Warrior Lady

Elemental Hero Stratos

Sangan

Cyber Dragon

Spirit Reaper

Dandelion

Twin-Headed Behemoth

Raiza the Storm Monarch

Night Assailant

Neo-Spacian Grand Mole

Exodia the Forbidden One

Right Leg of the Forbidden One

Right Arm of the Forbidden One

Left Leg of the Forbidden One

Left Arm of the Forbidden One

Marshmallon

Breaker the Magical Warrior

Morphing Jar

Green Baboon, Defender of the Forest

Treeborn Frog

Card Trooper

Snipe Hunter

Heavy Storm

Overload Fusion

Mystical Space Typhoon

Advanced Ritual Art

Scapegoat

United We Stand

Card Destruction

Swords of Revealing Light

Monster Reborn

Giant Trunade

Gold Sarcophagus

Future Fusion

Reasoning

Monster Gate

Limiter Removal

Level Limit - Area B

Megamorph Brain Control

Smashing Ground

Fissure

Return from the Different Dimension

Ojama Trio

Gravity Bind

Torrential Tribute

Crush Card Virus

Mirror Force

Ultimate Offering

Ceasefire

Mind Crush

Magic Cylinder

Trap Dustshoot

The Transmigration Prophecy

Wall of Revealing Light

 

Semi-Restricted

Only 2 copies of the following cards can be put into a deck:

 

Manticore of Darkness

Judgement Dragon

Dark Armed Dragon

Necroface

Phantom of Chaos

Mask of Darkness

Rescue Cat

Foolish Burial

Card of Safe Return

Chain Strike

Book of Moon

Nobleman of Crossout

Magical Stone Excavation

 

No longer restricted

3 copies per deck allowed:

 

Light and Darkness Dragon

Destiny Hero - Malicious

Mage Power

Reinforcement of the Army

Royal Decree

 

 

 

If I were in control of the list, there would be two purposes to it. One, of course, is to stimulate growth. Altering the game state can make the company money. But to me, a person making this list HAS to also play the game. Because they must also want to do something a simple tester wouldn't do; they need to actually have to deal with the environment afterwards. They need to be forced to play in the mess they created.

 

I simply want to vary the game up. I would have been so much happier with a list similiar to this:

 

I.

Forbidden Cards

 

You cannot use these cards in your Deck or Side Deck:

 

BLACK LUSTER SOLDIER - ENVOY OF THE BEGINNING

BUTTERFLY DAGGER - ELMA

CALL OF THE HAUNTED

CATAPULT TURTLE

CHANGE OF HEART

CHAOS EMPEROR DRAGON - ENVOY OF THE END

CHAOS SORCERER

CONFISCATION

CYBER JAR

CYBER-STEIN

DARK MAGICIAN OF CHAOS

DELINQUENT DUO

DESTINY HERO - DISK COMMANDER

DIMENSION FUSION

EXCHANGE OF THE SPIRIT

FIBER JAR

FUTURE FUSION

GRACEFUL CHARITY

HARPIE'S FEATHER DUSTER

IMPERIAL ORDER

LAST TURN

LAST WILL

LEVEL LIMIT - AREA B

MAKYURA THE DESTRUCTOR

METAMORPHOSIS

MIRAGE OF NIGHTMARE

PAINFUL CHOICE

POT OF GREED

PREMATURE BURIAL

RAIGEKI

RING OF DESTRUCTION

SANGAN

SCAPEGOAT

SINISTER SERPENT

SNATCH STEAL

THE FORCEFUL SENTRY

TIME SEAL

TRAP DUSTSHOOT

TRIBE-INFECTING VIRUS

TSUKUYOMI

WITCH OF THE BLACK FOREST

YATA-GARASU

 

 

 

II. Limited Cards

 

You can ONLY use one of the following cards in the Deck & Side Deck combined:

 

BOOK OF ECLIPSE

BRAIN CONTROL

BREAKER THE MAGICAL WARRIOR

CAIUS THE SHADOW MONARCH

CARD DESTRUCTION

CARD TROOPER

CEASEFIRE

CRUSH CARD VIRUS

CYBER DRAGON

CYBER VALLEY

D. D. CROW

D. D. R. - DIFFERENT DIMENSION REINCARNATION

D. D. WARRIOR LADY

DARK HOLE

DIMENSIONAL FISSURE

DUST TORNADO

ELEMENTAL HERO PRISMA

ELEMENTAL HERO STRATOS

FISSURE

GIANT TRUNADE

GLADIATOR BEAST GAIODIAZ

GLADIATOR BEAST GYZARUS

GLADIATOR BEAST HERAKLINOS

GOLD SARCOPHAGUS

GRAVITY BIND

GREEN BABOON, DEFENDER OF THE FOREST

HEAVY STORM

HONEST

KURAZ THE LIGHT MONARCH

LEFT ARM OF THE FORBIDDEN ONE

LEFT LEG OF THE FORBIDDEN ONE

LIGHTNING VORTEX

LIMITER REMOVAL

LYLA, LIGHTSWORN SORCERESS

MACRO COSMOS

MAGIC CYLINDER

MAGICAL SCIENTIST

MAGICIAN OF FAITH

MARSHMALLON

MASK OF DARKNESS

MEGAMORPH

MIND CONTROL

MIRROR FORCE

MOBIUS THE FROST MONARCH

MONSTER REBORN

MONSTER REINCARNATION

MORPHING JAR

MORPHING JAR #2

MYSTICAL SPACE TYPHOON

NEO-SPACIAN GRAND MOLE

NIGHT ASSAILANT

OJAMA TRIO

POT OF AVARICE

RAIZA THE STORM MONARCH

RETURN FROM THE DIFFERENT DIMENSION

RIGHT ARM OF THE FORBIDDEN ONE

RIGHT LEG OF THE FORBIDDEN ONE

SMASHING GROUND

SNIPE HUNTER

SPIRIT REAPER

SWORDS OF REVEALING LIGHT

TEST TIGER

THOUSAND-EYES RESTRICT

TORRENTIAL TRIBUTE

TWIN-HEADED BEHEMOTH

ULTIMATE OFFERING

UNITED WE STAND

VICTORY DRAGON

WAVE-MOTION CANNON

ZABORG THE THUNDER MONARCH

 

 

III. Semi-Limited Cards

 

You can ONLY use two of the following cards in the Deck & Side Deck combined:

 

A FEATHER OF THE PHOENIX

ADVANCED RITUAL ART

ALLURE OF DARKNESS

BOOK OF LIFE

BOOK OF MOON

BOOK OF TAIYOU

CARD OF SAFE RETURN

CHARGE OF THE LIGHT BRIGADE

DARK ARMED DRAGON

DARKLORD ZERATO

D. D. M. - DIFFERENT DIMENSION MASTER

DEMISE, KING OF ARMAGEDDON

DIMENSIONAL ALCHEMIST

FOOLISH BURIAL

HAMMERSHOT

HAND DESTRUCTION

HAND OF THE SIX SAMURAI

JUDGMENT DRAGON

LIMIT REVERSE

MAGICAL STONE EXCAVATION

MANTICORE OF DARKNESS

NOBLEMAN OF THE CROSSOUT

RESCUE CAT

ROYAL OPPRESSION

SKILL DRAIN

SOLAR RECHARGE

SOLEMN JUDGMENT

THE DARK CREATOR

TRADE-IN

TREEBORN FROG

 

I know my list may seem random, or out to destroy certain decktypes, but I promise you, it is not. It is trying to curb the capabilities of cards that are splashable. Also, I'm a big fan of drawing = special. the whole '3 of the same draw card' thing is not going over well with me. And, probably most obvious, I believe "remove from play" should most often truly mean "remove from play". As in, not instantly coming back from a non-themed card (like the Rock and Fairy monsters have).

 

Any one hate me or my list?

 

~Poe.

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Warning: this is long.

 

I am absolutely infuriated about the potential September 1st' date=' 2008 ban list. If this list is true, it shows that Konami has no concern for our meta or the flaws in it during anytime where there is no world wide compatition.

 

Before I say anything else, let me show you the supposed B/R list, just to make sure it's fresh in your minds.

 

Forbidden Cards:

The following cards cannot be put into a deck:

 

Victory Dragon Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End

Chaos Sorcerer

Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning

Sinister Serpent

Witch of the Black Forest

Dark Magician of Chaos

Thousand-Eyes Restrict

Cyber Jar

Makyura the Destructor

Tsukuyomi

Destiny Hero - Disk Commander

Cyber - Stein

Tribe - Infecting Virus

Fiber Jar

Magical Scientist

Yata - Garasu

Magician of Faith

Mirage of Nightmare

Delinquent Duo

Painful Choice

The Forceful Sentry

Pot of Greed

Change of Heart

Raigeki

Dimension Fusion

Butterfly Dagger - Elma

Graceful Charity

Harpie's Feather Duster

Premature Burial

Dark Hole

Last Will

Confiscation

Snatch Steal

Metamorphosis

Imperial Order

Exchange of the Spirit

Call of the Haunted

Time Seal

Last Turn

Ring of Destruction

 

Restriction Cards:

Only 1 copy of the following cards can be put into a deck:

 

D.D. Warrior Lady

Elemental Hero Stratos

Sangan

Cyber Dragon

Spirit Reaper

Dandelion

Twin-Headed Behemoth

Raiza the Storm Monarch

Night Assailant

Neo-Spacian Grand Mole

Exodia the Forbidden One

Right Leg of the Forbidden One

Right Arm of the Forbidden One

Left Leg of the Forbidden One

Left Arm of the Forbidden One

Marshmallon

Breaker the Magical Warrior

Morphing Jar

Green Baboon, Defender of the Forest

Treeborn Frog

Card Trooper

Snipe Hunter

Heavy Storm

Overload Fusion

Mystical Space Typhoon

Advanced Ritual Art

Scapegoat

United We Stand

Card Destruction

Swords of Revealing Light

Monster Reborn

Giant Trunade

Gold Sarcophagus

Future Fusion

Reasoning

Monster Gate

Limiter Removal

Level Limit - Area B

Megamorph Brain Control

Smashing Ground

Fissure

Return from the Different Dimension

Ojama Trio

Gravity Bind

Torrential Tribute

Crush Card Virus

Mirror Force

Ultimate Offering

Ceasefire

Mind Crush

Magic Cylinder

Trap Dustshoot

The Transmigration Prophecy

Wall of Revealing Light

 

Semi-Restricted

Only 2 copies of the following cards can be put into a deck:

 

Manticore of Darkness

Judgement Dragon

Dark Armed Dragon

Necroface

Phantom of Chaos

Mask of Darkness

Rescue Cat

Foolish Burial

Card of Safe Return

Chain Strike

Book of Moon

Nobleman of Crossout

Magical Stone Excavation

 

No longer restricted

3 copies per deck allowed:

 

Light and Darkness Dragon

Destiny Hero - Malicious

Mage Power

Reinforcement of the Army

Royal Decree

 

 

 

If I were in control of the list, there would be two purposes to it. One, of course, is to stimulate growth. Altering the game state can make the company money. But to me, a person making this list HAS to also play the game. Because they must also want to do something a simple tester wouldn't do; they need to actually have to deal with the environment afterwards. They need to be forced to play in the mess they created.

 

I simply want to vary the game up. I would have been so much happier with a list similiar to this:

 

I.

Forbidden Cards

 

You cannot use these cards in your Deck or Side Deck:

 

BLACK LUSTER SOLDIER - ENVOY OF THE BEGINNING

BUTTERFLY DAGGER - ELMA

CALL OF THE HAUNTED

CATAPULT TURTLE

CHANGE OF HEART

CHAOS EMPEROR DRAGON - ENVOY OF THE END

CHAOS SORCERER

CONFISCATION

CYBER JAR

CYBER-STEIN

DARK MAGICIAN OF CHAOS

DELINQUENT DUO

DESTINY HERO - DISK COMMANDER

DIMENSION FUSION

EXCHANGE OF THE SPIRIT

FIBER JAR

FUTURE FUSION

GRACEFUL CHARITY

HARPIE'S FEATHER DUSTER

IMPERIAL ORDER

LAST TURN

LAST WILL

LEVEL LIMIT - AREA B

MAKYURA THE DESTRUCTOR

METAMORPHOSIS

MIRAGE OF NIGHTMARE

PAINFUL CHOICE

POT OF GREED

PREMATURE BURIAL

RAIGEKI

RING OF DESTRUCTION

SANGAN

SCAPEGOAT

SINISTER SERPENT

SNATCH STEAL

THE FORCEFUL SENTRY

TIME SEAL

TRAP DUSTSHOOT

TRIBE-INFECTING VIRUS

TSUKUYOMI

WITCH OF THE BLACK FOREST

YATA-GARASU

 

 

 

II. Limited Cards

 

You can ONLY use one of the following cards in the Deck & Side Deck combined:

 

BOOK OF ECLIPSE

BRAIN CONTROL

BREAKER THE MAGICAL WARRIOR

CAIUS THE SHADOW MONARCH

CARD DESTRUCTION

CARD TROOPER

CEASEFIRE

CRUSH CARD VIRUS

CYBER DRAGON

CYBER VALLEY

D. D. CROW

D. D. R. - DIFFERENT DIMENSION REINCARNATION

D. D. WARRIOR LADY

DARK HOLE

DIMENSIONAL FISSURE

DUST TORNADO

ELEMENTAL HERO PRISMA

ELEMENTAL HERO STRATOS

FISSURE

GIANT TRUNADE

GLADIATOR BEAST GAIODIAZ

GLADIATOR BEAST GYZARUS

GLADIATOR BEAST HERAKLINOS

GOLD SARCOPHAGUS

GRAVITY BIND

GREEN BABOON, DEFENDER OF THE FOREST

HEAVY STORM

HONEST

KURAZ THE LIGHT MONARCH

LEFT ARM OF THE FORBIDDEN ONE

LEFT LEG OF THE FORBIDDEN ONE

LIGHTNING VORTEX

LIMITER REMOVAL

LYLA, LIGHTSWORN SORCERESS

MACRO COSMOS

MAGIC CYLINDER

MAGICAL SCIENTIST

MAGICIAN OF FAITH

MARSHMALLON

MASK OF DARKNESS

MEGAMORPH

MIND CONTROL

MIRROR FORCE

MOBIUS THE FROST MONARCH

MONSTER REBORN

MONSTER REINCARNATION

MORPHING JAR

MORPHING JAR #2

MYSTICAL SPACE TYPHOON

NEO-SPACIAN GRAND MOLE

NIGHT ASSAILANT

OJAMA TRIO

POT OF AVARICE

RAIZA THE STORM MONARCH

RETURN FROM THE DIFFERENT DIMENSION

RIGHT ARM OF THE FORBIDDEN ONE

RIGHT LEG OF THE FORBIDDEN ONE

SMASHING GROUND

SNIPE HUNTER

SPIRIT REAPER

SWORDS OF REVEALING LIGHT

TEST TIGER

THOUSAND-EYES RESTRICT

TORRENTIAL TRIBUTE

TWIN-HEADED BEHEMOTH

ULTIMATE OFFERING

UNITED WE STAND

VICTORY DRAGON

WAVE-MOTION CANNON

ZABORG THE THUNDER MONARCH

 

 

III. Semi-Limited Cards

 

You can ONLY use two of the following cards in the Deck & Side Deck combined:

 

A FEATHER OF THE PHOENIX

ADVANCED RITUAL ART

ALLURE OF DARKNESS

BOOK OF LIFE

BOOK OF MOON

BOOK OF TAIYOU

CARD OF SAFE RETURN

CHARGE OF THE LIGHT BRIGADE

DARK ARMED DRAGON

DARKLORD ZERATO

D. D. M. - DIFFERENT DIMENSION MASTER

DEMISE, KING OF ARMAGEDDON

DIMENSIONAL ALCHEMIST

FOOLISH BURIAL

HAMMERSHOT

HAND DESTRUCTION

HAND OF THE SIX SAMURAI

JUDGMENT DRAGON

LIMIT REVERSE

MAGICAL STONE EXCAVATION

MANTICORE OF DARKNESS

NOBLEMAN OF THE CROSSOUT

RESCUE CAT

ROYAL OPPRESSION

SKILL DRAIN

SOLAR RECHARGE

SOLEMN JUDGMENT

THE DARK CREATOR

TRADE-IN

TREEBORN FROG

 

I know my list may seem random, or out to destroy certain decktypes, but I promise you, it is not. It is trying to curb the capabilities of cards that are splashable. Also, I'm a big fan of drawing = special. the whole '3 of the same draw card' thing is not going over well with me. And, probably most obvious, I believe "remove from play" should most often truly mean "remove from play". As in, not instantly coming back from a non-themed card (like the Rock and Fairy monsters have).

 

Any one hate me or my list?

 

~Poe.

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mage power being unrestriced is a no-no

 

3 mage powers = 500 + 500 + 500 + 500 + 500 + 500 + 500 etc

 

i seriously cant explain how bad it is when you have 3 of them

 

 

and royal decree should be only one for a reason

 

no traps equial dead opponant

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^ Why the hell would you quote the entire damn first post?

 

Mage power= LolAtk.

 

If my absence from the TCG game (Since 06') has changed what goes on' date=' I'm pretty sure monster removal and/or swarming plays the larger roll.

=/.

[/quote']

 

please stop stalking me and saying a insult to me.

 

its kinda annoying

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^. You're taking it as an insult.

 

I don't see saying "Why the hell did you quote the entire first post?"

 

To have an insulting nature in the context I used.

Rather, one of curiosity.

I'll admit, I'm not Fond of you in the slightest, but I wouldn't insult you random unless I had a reason.

Plus, you kind of spammed.

=/.

"Provide meaning to the thread with each post you do, or don't post at all."

^ Work of that.

Oh, just to add to it, you shouldn't do things that infuriate people.

Grammar+Perversion+Consistant Off-topicness=Infuriation.

Believe me, I'd take it as a tip to change.

 

For the thread.

Eh.

Should be more TCG oriented. Therefore, should be in the TCG forum.

You wouldn't get much more than noobish-Given-up-on-Yu-Gi-Oh! people here.

=/.

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mage power being unrestriced is a no-no

 

3 mage powers = 500 + 500 + 500 + 500 + 500 + 500 + 500 etc lolatk

 

i seriously cant explain how bad it is when you have 3 of them

 

 

and royal decree should be only one for a reason

 

no traps equial dead opponant Jinzo and field nuke say hi

 

 

 

Big list.

 

please post the newly banned/limited cards. I'm not digging into your list to find out what you did. Also, wrong section.

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^. You're taking it as an insult.

 

I don't see saying "Why the hell did you quote the entire first post?"

 

To have an insulting nature in the context I used.

Rather' date=' one of curiosity.

I'll admit, I'm not Fond of you in the slightest, but I wouldn't insult you random unless I had a reason.

Plus, you kind of spammed.

=/.

"Provide meaning to the thread with each post you do, or don't post at all."

^ Work of that.

Oh, just to add to it, you shouldn't do things that infuriate people.

Grammar+Perversion+Consistant Off-topicness=Infuriation.

Believe me, I'd take it as a tip to change.

 

For the thread.

Eh.

Should be more TCG oriented. Therefore, should be in the TCG forum.

You wouldn't get much more than noobish-Given-up-on-Yu-Gi-Oh! people here.

=/.

[/quote']THAT WAS FRIKEN ON TOPIC YOU MORON!!!

 

and alot of people on this site are proud of being perverted (i could name a ton)

 

J-max, claxie, FM4, phantios dreamer etc

 

now please talk vie pm to me

 

ON TOPIC: the ban list isnt that good, mage power should never, NEVER be made into 3 (hell untied we stand has more of a chance then it)

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^. You're taking it as an insult.

 

I don't see saying "Why the hell did you quote the entire first post?"

 

To have an insulting nature in the context I used.

Rather' date=' one of curiosity.

I'll admit, I'm not Fond of you in the slightest, but I wouldn't insult you random unless I had a reason.

Plus, you kind of spammed.

=/.

"Provide meaning to the thread with each post you do, or don't post at all."

^ Work of that.

Oh, just to add to it, you shouldn't do things that infuriate people.

Grammar+Perversion+Consistant Off-topicness=Infuriation.

Believe me, I'd take it as a tip to change.

 

For the thread.

Eh.

Should be more TCG oriented. Therefore, should be in the TCG forum.

You wouldn't get much more than noobish-Given-up-on-Yu-Gi-Oh! people here.

=/.

[/quote']THAT WAS FRIKEN ON TOPIC YOU MORON!!!

 

and alot of people on this site are proud of being perverted (i could name a ton)

 

J-max, claxie, FM4, phantios dreamer etc

 

now please talk vie pm to me

 

ON TOPIC: the ban list isnt that good, mage power should never, NEVER be made into 3 (hell untied we stand has more of a chance then it)

 

EVIDENCE IS HERE! THANK GOD!

 

You ARE ignorant to your own actions.

You don't even know when you are off-topic.

 

^ Why the hell would you quote the entire damn first post?

 

Mage power= LolAtk.

 

If my absence from the TCG game (Since 06') has changed what goes on' date=' I'm pretty sure monster removal and/or swarming plays the larger roll.

=/.

[/quote']

 

please stop stalking me and saying a insult to me.

 

its kinda annoying

^ THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FREAKING TOPIC.

 

GAH!

You're raising my blood pressure.

Non the less, you proved your own ignorance.

I'm happy now. :).

 

Also, I believe this thread should either be locked/moved, as it's obviously, really obviously, not doing a damn productive thing here.

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What the heck was going on here while I was out? Wow.

 

*reads all of the above*

 

...It looks like I practically started a fight...

 

Just by uniting people on a given thread; as it doesn't have much to do with me.

 

...That's what I get for asking a question.

 

nah not your fault

 

i was arguing with him on 6 other threads

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