Discussion: Mirror Force

[SecretAgentMan007]

Mirror Force is overpowered. I think it should be banned.

[CrabHelmet]

Mirror Force is overpowered. I think it should be banned.

 

This is why we can never have any good discussion topics.

[Archbaron Larry]

Mirror Force is overpowered. I think it should be banned.

 

What?!?! Your crazy! Mirror Force is kinda overpowered, but duels are no fun without this card. I will keep my previous conclusion.

[「tea.leaf」]

I say this card belongs at three' date=' even more so if Harpies ever became dominant.

[/quote']

 

3 copies of this murders aggro decks. Furthermore, it incites a significant rise in s/t removal, which in turn murders non-chainables.

 

Honestly, under normal circumstances, this card would be banworthy. However, we need it around as a deterrent, and to add the concept of overextending to the game.

 

Right now we've got decks that can flood the field in an instant.

 

Rescue Cat Synchro? It's ridiculous; in two seconds you're staring down a full row of massive beat sticks.

 

I seriously don't think it'd be that detrimental, not now, at least.

 

Remember that I also advocate 3 Torrential.

 

So we're on equal terms?

 

Sort of.

 

1 Mirror + 3 Torrential can handle swarm threats. 3 Mirror + 3 Torrential makes instant swarm absolutely the only aggro strategy. It also means that every single aggro deck still in existence decks hordes of s/t removal.

 

And that'd destroy Macro, Oppression and Drain decks, am I right?

 

Yeah' date=' that's what I thought, 2 for Mirror Force would still be crazy, and if it was banned, duels would have less action.

My conclusion: Leave it at 1.

[/quote']

 

Stop being a sheep.

[Archbaron Larry]

I say this card belongs at three' date=' even more so if Harpies ever became dominant.

[/quote']

 

3 copies of this murders aggro decks. Furthermore, it incites a significant rise in s/t removal, which in turn murders non-chainables.

 

Honestly, under normal circumstances, this card would be banworthy. However, we need it around as a deterrent, and to add the concept of overextending to the game.

 

Right now we've got decks that can flood the field in an instant.

 

Rescue Cat Synchro? It's ridiculous; in two seconds you're staring down a full row of massive beat sticks.

 

I seriously don't think it'd be that detrimental, not now, at least.

 

Remember that I also advocate 3 Torrential.

 

So we're on equal terms?

 

Sort of.

 

1 Mirror + 3 Torrential can handle swarm threats. 3 Mirror + 3 Torrential makes instant swarm absolutely the only aggro strategy. It also means that every single aggro deck still in existence decks hordes of s/t removal.

 

And that'd destroy Macro, Oppression and Drain decks, am I right?

 

Yeah' date=' that's what I thought, 2 for Mirror Force would still be crazy, and if it was banned, duels would have less action.

My conclusion: Leave it at 1.

[/quote']

 

Stop being a sheep.

SHEEP?!?!? What the.... I've never heard that before. Why would I be a sheep? I was just talking about my discussion card! Got a problem with that?

LOL

[「tea.leaf」]

I say this card belongs at three' date=' even more so if Harpies ever became dominant.

[/quote']

 

3 copies of this murders aggro decks. Furthermore, it incites a significant rise in s/t removal, which in turn murders non-chainables.

 

Honestly, under normal circumstances, this card would be banworthy. However, we need it around as a deterrent, and to add the concept of overextending to the game.

 

Right now we've got decks that can flood the field in an instant.

 

Rescue Cat Synchro? It's ridiculous; in two seconds you're staring down a full row of massive beat sticks.

 

I seriously don't think it'd be that detrimental, not now, at least.

 

Remember that I also advocate 3 Torrential.

 

So we're on equal terms?

 

Sort of.

 

1 Mirror + 3 Torrential can handle swarm threats. 3 Mirror + 3 Torrential makes instant swarm absolutely the only aggro strategy. It also means that every single aggro deck still in existence decks hordes of s/t removal.

 

And that'd destroy Macro, Oppression and Drain decks, am I right?

 

Yeah' date=' that's what I thought, 2 for Mirror Force would still be crazy, and if it was banned, duels would have less action.

My conclusion: Leave it at 1.

[/quote']

 

Stop being a sheep.

SHEEP?!?!? What the.... I've never heard that before. Why would I be a sheep? I was just talking about my discussion card! Got a problem with that?

LOL

 

You are a sheep as in you don't know how to construct your own arguments, but instead you blindly listen to and follow the words of another person with a more reputable image.

[NeoPaladin2008]

yeah blueeyes19, you're always following other people's opinion, just like tea said. I totally agree with him.

On topic and off being a mindless tea-follower: good card is good. the prices of mirror forces would skyrocket if it was at 3. especially the very sexy MRD one I own xD

[Archbaron Larry]

OOOOKAY then, I'm ignoring those last 1 1/2 posts....

NeoPaladin is right though, if Mirror Force was at 3 then the prices would skyrocket, HOWEVER, I do actually disagree a bit, because that's probably never going to happen. But the price will go down again because of it's release in the Gold Series, which brings the copies of Mirror Force up to 3, making it a tad easier to get.

And please no more "sheep" stuff.

[Mutant Monster RAEG-HAPYP]

We need to get a common verison of this like the OCG did

[「tea.leaf」]

yeah blueeyes19' date=' you're always following other people's opinion, just like tea said. I totally agree with [s']him[/s] her.

On topic and off being a mindless tea-follower: good card is good. the prices of mirror forces would skyrocket if it was at 3. especially the very sexy MRD one I own xD

 

Fixed.

 

No way! I've got one too! :'D

[Mr. Judgment Dragon]

Mirror Force is overpowered. I think it should be banned.

 

OMG. Mirror Force is not overpowered. If it was chainable then it would be overpowered. It is situational because it requires your opponent to attack to be activated. Good, yes, overpowered, no.

[Purple Dinosaur]

Great card is Great.

 

It destroys monster which, will probably be in Attack Position.

 

-PD

[Guest PikaPerson01]

Pro-Tip: The phrase 'it keeps a duel fun' should not and is not a valid argument in keeping a card. Fun is subjective.

[advicedog]

Pro-Tip: The phrase 'it keeps a duel fun' should not and is not a valid argument in keeping a card. Fun is subjective.

Sounds like you've been on the receiving end of this card. Anti-Aggro card is well, nearly broken.

[Static]

I say this card belongs at three' date=' even more so if Harpies ever became dominant.

[/quote']

 

3 copies of this murders aggro decks. Furthermore, it incites a significant rise in s/t removal, which in turn murders non-chainables.

 

Honestly, under normal circumstances, this card would be banworthy. However, we need it around as a deterrent, and to add the concept of overextending to the game.

 

Right now we've got decks that can flood the field in an instant.

 

Rescue Cat Synchro? It's ridiculous; in two seconds you're staring down a full row of massive beat sticks.

 

I seriously don't think it'd be that detrimental, not now, at least.

 

Remember that I also advocate 3 Torrential.

 

So we're on equal terms?

 

Sort of.

 

1 Mirror + 3 Torrential can handle swarm threats. 3 Mirror + 3 Torrential makes instant swarm absolutely the only aggro strategy. It also means that every single aggro deck still in existence decks hordes of s/t removal.

 

And that'd destroy Macro, Oppression and Drain decks, am I right?

 

Yeah' date=' that's what I thought, 2 for Mirror Force would still be crazy, and if it was banned, duels would have less action.

My conclusion: Leave it at 1.

[/quote']

 

Stop being a sheep.

 

Since when were drain decks... playable?

[Light of Destruction]

Someone said to me ''Mirror Force is going to be not limited at all thanks to Stardust.'' Its not going to get out of the Limited Place its in, you can destoy it easily with Trap Jammer.

[Skuldur]

Someone said to me ''Mirror Force is going to be not limited at all thanks to Stardust.'' Its not going to get out of the Limited Place its in' date=' you can destoy it easily with Trap Jammer.

[/quote']

 

no one runs trap jammer. Solemn/Bribe>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Trap Jammer

[Static]

Someone said to me ''Mirror Force is going to be not limited at all thanks to Stardust.'' Its not going to get out of the Limited Place its in' date=' you can destoy it easily with Trap Jammer.

[/quote']

 

lol validating a cards position on the ban list because it can be countered by another card.

[.:|Fallen|:.]

OMG!

this is a cool card

[「tea.leaf」]

I say this card belongs at three' date=' even more so if Harpies ever became dominant.

[/quote']

 

3 copies of this murders aggro decks. Furthermore, it incites a significant rise in s/t removal, which in turn murders non-chainables.

 

Honestly, under normal circumstances, this card would be banworthy. However, we need it around as a deterrent, and to add the concept of overextending to the game.

 

Right now we've got decks that can flood the field in an instant.

 

Rescue Cat Synchro? It's ridiculous; in two seconds you're staring down a full row of massive beat sticks.

 

I seriously don't think it'd be that detrimental, not now, at least.

 

Remember that I also advocate 3 Torrential.

 

So we're on equal terms?

 

Sort of.

 

1 Mirror + 3 Torrential can handle swarm threats. 3 Mirror + 3 Torrential makes instant swarm absolutely the only aggro strategy. It also means that every single aggro deck still in existence decks hordes of s/t removal.

 

And that'd destroy Macro, Oppression and Drain decks, am I right?

 

Yeah' date=' that's what I thought, 2 for Mirror Force would still be crazy, and if it was banned, duels would have less action.

My conclusion: Leave it at 1.

[/quote']

 

Stop being a sheep.

 

Since when were drain decks... playable?

 

Drain/Oppression/Virus Control. One of my friends at locals runs it, the deck kills.

[Light of Destruction]

N00bs run trap jammer, Solemn is better

Solemn, Dark Bribe, Breaker-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Magic Jammer, Trap Jammer.

[Static]

I say this card belongs at three' date=' even more so if Harpies ever became dominant.

[/quote']

 

3 copies of this murders aggro decks. Furthermore, it incites a significant rise in s/t removal, which in turn murders non-chainables.

 

Honestly, under normal circumstances, this card would be banworthy. However, we need it around as a deterrent, and to add the concept of overextending to the game.

 

Right now we've got decks that can flood the field in an instant.

 

Rescue Cat Synchro? It's ridiculous; in two seconds you're staring down a full row of massive beat sticks.

 

I seriously don't think it'd be that detrimental, not now, at least.

 

Remember that I also advocate 3 Torrential.

 

So we're on equal terms?

 

Sort of.

 

1 Mirror + 3 Torrential can handle swarm threats. 3 Mirror + 3 Torrential makes instant swarm absolutely the only aggro strategy. It also means that every single aggro deck still in existence decks hordes of s/t removal.

 

And that'd destroy Macro, Oppression and Drain decks, am I right?

 

Yeah' date=' that's what I thought, 2 for Mirror Force would still be crazy, and if it was banned, duels would have less action.

My conclusion: Leave it at 1.

[/quote']

 

Stop being a sheep.

 

Since when were drain decks... playable?

 

Drain/Oppression/Virus Control. One of my friends at locals runs it, the deck kills.

 

FO REAL?

 

Well the virus part explains it (assuming they have Crush card), the Oppression part explains why Meta doesn't obliterate it, and why no one thinks to side MalCat there after seeing that deck is quite questionable.

[Indestructible Chaoserver]

Mirror force is decent. It's presence has changed the game. It causes players to contemplate changing a monster to defense mode before attacking, can be a potent top deck, and a game changer. That being said it cries to the likes of breaker, bestari, gyzarus, yaichi, ect. isn't chainable and if an opponent is aware you have it is easy to work around.

[Tickle Me Emo]

IMO its meh. Its not chainable and in this meta it is not all that great. Of course for saying that Crab is gonna quote me and say "You cant compare this to this meta, you must compare this to the perfect meta"

[Mr. Judgment Dragon]

We dont have the so called "Perfect Meta". Why use that as reasoning? I am so sick of people using that as reasoning. I'm not going to get on anyones case about it though. Not unless I'm a part of the discussion. Even with cards like Dark Armed Dragon and Judgment Dragon. Those are indeed banworthy but they are not banned now are they? I just think it needs to be said. I play using Konami's list whether I like it or not. Mirror Force is powerful but it is balanced where it is on the list. It wouldnt be good at 3.