Guest Chaos Pudding Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Namely Judgment Dragon and, to a lesser extent, Gyzerus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 You saying the cards mentioned are only broken because of the theme the are played in make them broken? With Gyzerus this is true but JD has PoC (even though PoC is also banworthy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 You saying the cards mentioned are only broken because of the theme the are played in make them broken? With Gyzerus this is true but JD has PoC (even though PoC is also banworthy) No, I'm referring to the argument that theme is an acceptable cost for such effects as JDragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 I love watching Pojo argue about this. A bunch of people say "It's broken even though it requires deck dedication!", and then Nuuuuf and Quiff say "It's not broken because it requires deck dedication!", and then this repeats forever until someone points out that Demise is useless outside of a dedicated deck, and then Nuuuuf says something about being technically-splashable-but-not-practically-splashable or something like that, and then it all dissolves when some n00b arrives and asks why Premature Burial was banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 I love watching Pojo argue about this. A bunch of people say "It's broken even though it requires deck dedication!"' date=' and then Nuuuuf and Quiff say "It's not broken because it requires deck dedication!", and then this repeats forever until someone points out that Demise is useless outside of a dedicated deck, and then Nuuuuf says something about being technically-splashable-but-not-practically-splashable or something like that, and then it all dissolves when some n00b arrives and asks why Premature Burial was banned.[/quote'] Tru dat. It provides minutes of hilarity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 I didn't get this topic, until I just went to Pojo. Pretty coincidentally, I was at the exact topic you were referring to. Gyzarus has a broken effect, but that doesn't mean he has to be banned on a good list. The other thing that matters is how to summon it. If you needed 1 "Beast from Rome - Bestiara" and 1 "Beast from Rome" monster, the card would have no use, because there are no "Beast from Rome" monsters in the game. It wouldn't need to be banned. However, it needs 1 Bestiari and 1 GB, and those exist, so it depends on how good those are. If they were all just 300 atk/def Vanillas, then Gyzarus wouldn't be threatening to the Meta, so it still wouldn't need to be banned. But the fact is that GBs and LSs are decent and can be used competitively, ESPECIALLY with Gyz/JD. Look at how GBs changed from a 'fun' Deck Type to 'The unbeaten'. It's all caused by Gyzarus, and nothing more than Gyzarus. Also, DAD can be seen as a card that requires you to play a specific 'theme', it's just a wider concept. Any ban list that claims to be related to 'logic' should have JD and Gyzarus banned, not unlimited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Gyz is a jerk. He is a field-destroying beatstick who helps his friends get power boosts. If he only tagged out for 1 monster, then it might be different. Or if he only destroyed 1 card. But they were thinking that Glads were underpowered I guess, and that for some reason this card needed to be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 I didn't get this topic' date=' until I just went to Pojo. Pretty coincidentally, I was at the exact topic you were referring to.[/quote'] That's no coincidence. EVERY topic is the exact topic that I was referring to. >_> Seriously, there are lots of them. Gyzarus has a broken effect' date=' but that doesn't mean he has to be banned on a good list. The other thing that matters is how to summon it. If you needed 1 "Beast from Rome - Bestiara" and 1 "Beast from Rome" monster, the card would have no use, because there are no "Beast from Rome" monsters in the game. It wouldn't need to be banned.[/quote'] Anyone who wants Pot of Greed banned but wants Chaos Greed to remain legal knows that the raw effect doesn't alone determine whether the card is banworthy or not. Also' date=' DAD can be seen as a card that requires you to play a specific 'theme', it's just a wider concept.[/quote'] The argument for DAD is that DAD can be splashed into any deck that happens to use a certain number of monsters of a certain attribute, whereas Gyzarus and Judgment Dragoon require solid deck dedication, as they can only be used at all in a deck that is dedicated to monsters of the corresponding name group. I'm not saying that I agree with this logic, but it's only fair to have the opposing argument stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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