CrabHelmet Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LethalJokeCharacter Never mention Treeborn Frog around devoted Yu-Gi-Oh players. Just don't. They go all twitchy and start screaming about "Monarchs". It really doesn't help that it's essentially a better version of Sinister Serpent' date=' a card which was banned at the time Treeborn Frog was released. [/quote'] Are you feeling yourself going all twitchy yet? Oh, and to keep this on topic, discuss Treeborn Frog or Sinsiter Serpent or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuki ni Mau Majin Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 If you don't mind me asking, why on this beautiful green Earth has Treeborn Frog not been banned yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 I don't see this being a "better version of Sinister Serpent". They obviously don't know the real use of Sinister Serpent at all. And Treeborn Frog is a which only holds uses in certain deck types (Monarchs being one, but I don't see many people getting jumpy about them anymore). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 I don't understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:pyramid:. Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 with the exception of monarch decks ( and maybe Gbs ) hand advantage wins games, as it opens up loads more plays that would of not been possible if you didnt have Sinister Serpent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 Treeborn Frog isn't that good in this meta. Seriously. Tele DAD, Gladiators, and LS dominate the format, and I don't think even Adam Corn's monarchs ran Treeborn. In a better format, Treeborn is bannable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPstaring07 Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 yallseen the avatar of superman treebornfrog kindof funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 Sad day when an infinitely reviving monsters is considered "not that good". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickle Me Emo Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 I don't see this being a "better version of Sinister Serpent". They obviously don't know the real use of Sinister Serpent at all. And Treeborn Frog is a which only holds uses in certain deck types (Monarchs being one' date=' but I don't see many people getting [b']jumpy[/b] about them anymore). lol pun. I dont see how frog is better than sinister. Sure sinister doesnt give you reviving tribute fodder but it does give you hand advantage making cards like LV, DWD, PWWB, etc have essentially no loss in hand advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 Sad day when an infinitely reviving monsters is considered "not that good".Well, it's slow revival. Treeborn's revival only works on one phase, and has a chance of not working (if you have a S/T). In today's meta, this is no good. Not being able to set traps means you'll be wide open for a heavy swing, and if you do set a trap, you better hope that you end up using or, or this little guy has no use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted September 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 Sad day when an infinitely reviving monsters is considered "not that good".Well' date=' it's slow revival. Treeborn's revival only works on one phase, and has a chance of not working (if you have a S/T). In today's meta, this is no good. Not being able to set traps means you'll be wide open for a heavy swing, and if you do set a trap, you better hope that you end up using or, or this little guy has no use.[/quote'] How many people run non-chainables in this meta anyhow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 Sad day when an infinitely reviving monsters is considered "not that good".Well' date=' it's slow revival. Treeborn's revival only works on one phase, and has a chance of not working (if you have a S/T). In today's meta, this is no good. Not being able to set traps means you'll be wide open for a heavy swing, and if you do set a trap, you better hope that you end up using or, or this little guy has no use.[/quote'] How many people run non-chainables in this meta anyhow?It's not the fact of being non-chainable or not, more of if you will want to chain it. Will you chain a Waboku when your opponent sets a monster, just so that you don't end up not summoning Treeborn? It might not be one of the wisest choices, and so you'll probably end up not doing it, unless you believe your hand/field could really use a Treeborn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 Treeborn frog! *Has seizure* Banworthy card, has been for a long time, will always be. Sad day when an infinitely reviving monsters is considered "not that good".Well' date=' it's slow revival. Treeborn's revival only works on one phase, and has a chance of not working (if you have a S/T). In today's meta, this is no good. Not being able to set traps means you'll be wide open for a heavy swing, and if you do set a trap, you better hope that you end up using or, or this little guy has no use.[/quote'] How many people run non-chainables in this meta anyhow? Solemn Judgment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickle Me Emo Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 Sad day when an infinitely reviving monsters is considered "not that good".Well' date=' it's slow revival. Treeborn's revival only works on one phase, and has a chance of not working (if you have a S/T). In today's meta, this is no good. Not being able to set traps means you'll be wide open for a heavy swing, and if you do set a trap, you better hope that you end up using or, or this little guy has no use.[/quote'] How many people run non-chainables in this meta anyhow? Solemn, Mirror Force (which is to slow like I always say), D-Prison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho Shocker Android Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 Treeborn Frog, they should just ban th.... ALL HAIL TO THE HYPNO TOAD!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoPaladin2008 Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 ^ lol futurama reference xDand also*seizure* bad card is now bad :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flinsbon Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 They probably haven't banned Treeborn Frog because it can completely drain an opponent's Light and Darkness Dragon. That keeps LADD in check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 Treeborn Frog' date=' they should just ban th.... ALL HAIL TO THE HYPNO TOAD!!!![/quote'] All my +rep are belong to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 They probably haven't banned Treeborn Frog because it can completely drain an opponent's Light and Darkness Dragon. That keeps LADD in check. 1. LaDD doesn't need to be "kept in check".2. Hypothetically speaking, even if LaDD did need to be "kept in check", to say that a card that is damaging to the metagame should remain legal to comabt another card that is damaging to the metagame is ridiculous. On-topic: Treeborn's a 3 or 0 card. It just happens to be zero. It doesn't make 2 or 3 monster tribs easier, because only one can be revived at a time. The only deck that could possibly exploit using multiple Treeborn Frogs is a Frog deck. Pretty much the only reason it's not banned, I assume, is that around the time of it's greatest popularity, we were hit by cards even more broken cards then Treeborn Frog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted September 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 2. Hypothetically speaking' date=' even if LaDD did need to be "kept in check", to say that a card that is damaging to the metagame should remain legal to comabt another card that is damaging to the metagame is ridiculous.[/quote'] Lawl, Marzbar. The only deck that could possibly exploit using multiple Treeborn Frogs is a Frog deck. And I'm not even sure how a Frog deck would be able to take more advantage of multiple Frogs than of one. Pretty much the only reason it's not banned' date=' I assume, is that around the time of it's greatest popularity, we were hit by cards even more broken cards then Treeborn Frog.[/quote'] Replace "around the time of it's greatest popularity" with "during every single format in which it has been legal". Although, honestly, in September 2007 format, it was the most broken card (staples like Premature Burial notwithstanding) of the format's most powerful deck - the more broken cards like Dimension Fusion weren't in decks that were as powerful. With the three big generic recursion cards banned, I'd much rather have Disk legal than have Treeborn legal. Of course, Konami managed to screw this one up too by taking it out on Raiza... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDKMRV Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 Treeborn Frog sucks if you have spell and trap cards on your field.Sinister Serpent is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 The only deck that could possibly exploit using multiple Treeborn Frogs is a Frog deck. And I'm not even sure how a Frog deck would be able to take more advantage of multiple Frogs than of one. D.3.S. Frog. >_> (Eh... bad example... but an example none the less) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted September 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 Treeborn Frog sucks if you have spell and trap cards on your field. Pot of Greed sucks if you have no cards in your deck. Sinister Serpent is better. Debatable; depends on the deck. Of course' date=' some would argue that both are equally useless, as neither can be used in any format worth playing in. The only deck that could possibly exploit using multiple Treeborn Frogs is a Frog deck. And I'm not even sure how a Frog deck would be able to take more advantage of multiple Frogs than of one. D.3.S. Frog. >_> (Eh... bad example... but an example none the less) Frog Decks summon D.3.S. Frog? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDKMRV Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 What happens if a person uses both these cards in their deck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarbleZone Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 Treeborn and Serpent? They lose by disqualification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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