Skyfi Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 [align=center] Now that we have Tuner monster is this card usible, because lots of tuners have less then 1400 attack. Discuss this cards potential[/align] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rise of the Eldrazi Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 This card is awesome!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BulletMan Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 x-saber airbellum is a level 3 tuner beast with 1600 ATK. So this card couldn`t destroy x-saber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyfi Posted September 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Yes, but x saber isn't all tuners is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aelsthla-Mental Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 x-saber airbellum is a level 3 tuner beast with 1600 ATK. So this card couldn`t destroy x-saber. And of course "Chaos End Synchro", but most of the GOOD synchros are low stat monsters. This card is useful against tuners and gadgets I think from the top of my head... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyfi Posted September 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 That's exactly my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Yes' date=' but x saber isn't all tuners is it?[/quote'] It just happens to be one of the best. However, Wanghu effectively kills Rescue Cat Sync since it won't let Summon Priest or Rescue Cat to go off. Wanghu also stops Psychics, so that's a major plus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiff! Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Wanghu is awesome.i have one actually.im wondering where it should go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Makes decent tech against Synchro, so it does well in the Side deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 It would be even better if Beast had some good support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basherbelding Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 This card owns! ;) :) :P :D xD :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Yes' date=' but x saber isn't all tuners is it?[/quote'] It just happens to be one of the best. However, Wanghu effectively kills Rescue Cat Sync since it won't let Summon Priest or Rescue Cat to go off. Wanghu also stops Psychics, so that's a major plus. You can recall priority on both of them, so it hurts Summon Priest but it doesn't touch Rescue Cat. The opp. could get out Rescue Cat with Summon Priest and again recall prior on Rescue Cat if he just wants to go with Goyo. Oh wait, he has to be running Des Wombat or Guard Dog for the Rescue Cat target to survive both... Nevermind, this card hurts them both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skuldur Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 this+Burden+oppression=uber pwnage anti-meta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 yhea i was just gonna say this works rather well with burden of the mighty all lv4 1800 are dead all lv 5 1900sall lv6 2000sall lv7 2100sall lv8 2200 wow only works ov lv4s unless you have 2 burden lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 This card is awesome when used with The Wicked Dreadroot. Unfortunately, Dreadroot sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frlf Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 This card is awesome when used with The Wicked Dreadroot. Unfortunately' date=' Dreadroot sucks.[/quote']Ditto.This card can destroy almost any synchro.It should be limited in 5D's then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 This card is awesome when used with The Wicked Dreadroot. Unfortunately' date=' Dreadroot sucks.[/quote'] You've said that multiple times. Things change, and we have a modern Dreadroot that is actually good. Black Garden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixty Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 This card is awesome when used with The Wicked Dreadroot. Unfortunately' date=' Dreadroot sucks.[/quote']Ditto.This card can destroy almost any synchro.It should be limited in 5D's then. :S Since when do any Synchro have less than 1400 attack? Anywho, This + CCV = lollockdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pharaoh_Atem Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 Yes' date=' but x saber isn't all tuners is it?[/quote'] It just happens to be one of the best. However, Wanghu effectively kills Rescue Cat Sync since it won't let Summon Priest or Rescue Cat to go off. Wanghu also stops Psychics, so that's a major plus. You can recall priority on both of them, so it hurts Summon Priest but it doesn't touch Rescue Cat. No. Mandatory Trigger Effects are compulsory; when activated, you must go forth with them, even in cases where you'd normally have Turn Player Priority. Turn Player Priority gives the Turn Player several rights. However, Priority NEVER circumvents the Chain Rule. Your above quote implicitly implies that Cat is not hurt by Wanghu. This is incorrect; Cat is affected by Wanghu in precisely the same way Priest is. When a monster eligible for Wanghu is Summoned, Wanghu immediately activates, as it has a Mandatory Trigger Effect. Turn Player Priority only grants the Turn Player the right to be the first player to voluntarily respond to something that has happened in the game, by activating an Ignition Effect, a Spell Speed 2 effect, or a Spell Speed 3 effect. In contrast, Mandatory Trigger Effects completely do away with voluntary responses; Wanghu doesn't wait for its controller to say "k, Wanghu, go get your dinner." Rather, Wanghu just sees the weak little shrimp and goes to get its dinner. Wanghu MAKES ITSELF Chain Link 1, and there's not a bloody thing that the players can do about it. This is how all Mandatory Trigger Effects work - they MAKE themselves a Chain Link as soon as legally able, skipping any and all voluntary activations in order to do so. All Ignition Effects, by definition, are voluntary activations. Priest and Cat both have Ignition Effects; therefore, their chances of Priority use are nil while Wanghu's effect is waiting. However, here's the REAL spin on the matter. Priest has 1 Ignition Effect and 1 Mandatory Trigger Effect. This Mandatory Trigger Effect activates when Priest is Normal or Flip Summoned, so in most cases, you won't be able to use Turn Priority to activate Priest anyway - Any time that Wanghu would be able to go after Priest, Priest wouldn't be able to make use of your Priority anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozotehpwns Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 This card is awesome...it's already been said that besides x-saber it destroys alot of the other tuners, BUT what kind of deck should it go in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skuldur Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 This card is awesome...it's already been said that besides x-saber it destroys alot of the other tuners' date=' BUT what kind of deck should it go in?[/quote'] oppression-rfp-burden-allofyourmonsterwithover1400atk-anti-meta Deck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 [Too much to quote] Ah' date=' thanks for clearing that up.I had some kind of feeling I was wrong, but I wasn't sure. In contrast, Mandatory Trigger Effects completely do away with voluntary responses; Wanghu doesn't wait for its controller to say "k, Wanghu, go get your dinner." Rather, Wanghu just sees the weak little shrimp and goes to get its dinner. Wanghu MAKES ITSELF Chain Link 1, and there's not a bloody thing that the players can do about it. Solemn your own summon, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 This card might inspire a few beast decks, but the only theme beasts really have is inflicting Piercing Damage and lowering card DEF to 0 to make it more effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pharaoh_Atem Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 Solemn your own summon' date=' lol.[/quote'] No, that doesn't even work, as you only have Turn Player Priority to activate Spell Speed 2 or higher effects after the resolution of a Chain wherein a Summon is Negated. When a Mandatory Trigger Effect is waiting to respond to a certain type of Summon, there is NO WAY for either player to use Turn Player Priority to activate the Ignition Effect of a monster in response to a monster being Summoned through the type of Summon that the Mandatory Trigger Effect uses as a Trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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