Sixty Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Violet_Witch Witch of the Black Forest for Plants. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 Witch of the Black Forest for Plants. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixty Posted September 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 Witch of the Black Forest for Plants. No. Well, if it was a Plant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 Witch of the Black Forest for Plants. No. Well' date=' if it was a Plant?[/quote'] No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixty Posted September 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 Witch of the Black Forest for Plants. No. Well' date=' if it was a Plant?[/quote'] No. *sigh* Fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegaWave Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 Witch of the Black Forest for Plants. No. Well' date=' if it was a Plant?[/quote'] No. Stop posting one word posts. Anyway, I agree. It is very similar to Witch of the Black Forest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 Witch of the Black Forest for Plants. No. Well' date=' if it was a Plant?[/quote'] No. Stop posting one word posts. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abstract [Atrocity] Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 Reason for it not being a Plant WOTBF?OR just "No" again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 Only good for Lonefire bait. *Rereads* Destroyed by battle? Nevermind. Bad card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 ' pid='1177544' dateline='1222628688']Reason for it not being a Plant WOTBF?OR just "No" again? This card only activates if destroyed by battle; Witch activates if sent from the field to the graveyard by any method, including being tributed, sent for a Synchro Summon, or being destroyed by a card effect. The difference is significant - more so than ever in removal-heavy formats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abstract [Atrocity] Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 Oh, missed that >> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 There is already another card that basically does the same, but it has to be 900 DEF (methinks) and apart from that fact, it actually is a WOTBF for Plants. Also, it's a Plant itself, unlike this card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 There is already another card that basically does the same' date=' but it has to be 900 DEF (methinks) and apart from that fact, it actually [i']is[/i] a WOTBF for Plants. Also, it's a Plant itself, unlike this card.Actually, it's 1000 DEF. http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Botanical_Girl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 There is already another card that basically does the same' date=' but it has to be 900 DEF (methinks) and apart from that fact, it actually [i']is[/i] a WOTBF for Plants. Also, it's a Plant itself, unlike this card.Actually, it's 1000 DEF. http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Botanical_Girl Ya, that card.Why don't we discuss that card instead?It's very decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 Witch of the Black Forest for Plants. No. Well' date=' if it was a Plant?[/quote'] No. Stop posting one word posts. Anyway, I agree. It is very similar to Witch of the Black Forest. No. Stop being wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skuldur Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 yep this discussion is now about Botanical Girl, it's very good support, has good targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pharaoh_Atem Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 Botanity Girl also isn't comparable to Witch, as Witch is mandatory, while Botanity is optional. This renders several of the methods we would use to trigger Witch's effect... unviable for triggering Botanity's effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 Botanity Girl also isn't comparable to Witch' date=' as Witch is mandatory, while Botanity is optional. This renders several of the methods we would use to trigger Witch's effect... unviable for triggering Botanity's effect.[/quote']When this card is destroyed by battle and sent to the Graveyard, you can add 1 Plant-Type monster with 1500 DEF or less from your Deck to your hand. They are both optional >> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixty Posted September 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 When this card is sent from your side of the field to the Graveyard, add 1 Plant-Type monster with 1500 DEF or less from your Deck to your hand. This is the Anime's effect for Violet Witch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 Botanity Girl also isn't comparable to Witch' date=' as Witch is mandatory, while Botanity is optional. This renders several of the methods we would use to trigger Witch's effect... unviable for triggering Botanity's effect.[/quote']When this card is destroyed by battle and sent to the Graveyard, you can add 1 Plant-Type monster with 1500 DEF or less from your Deck to your hand. They are both optional >> It's extremely obvious that he means Witch of the Black Forest, not Velvet Witch. And he's right; being able to miss the timing renders a variety of methods, including tributing, useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 Botanity Girl also isn't comparable to Witch' date=' as Witch is mandatory, while Botanity is optional. This renders several of the methods we would use to trigger Witch's effect... unviable for triggering Botanity's effect.[/quote']When this card is destroyed by battle and sent to the Graveyard, you can add 1 Plant-Type monster with 1500 DEF or less from your Deck to your hand. They are both optional >> It's extremely obvious that he means Witch of the Black Forest, not Velvet Witch. And he's right; being able to miss the timing renders a variety of methods, including tributing, useless.It's not very obvious when they both say "witch", and they only say "witch". But in the case of "Witch of the Black Forest", the statement is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 Botanity Girl also isn't comparable to Witch' date=' as Witch is mandatory, while Botanity is optional. This renders several of the methods we would use to trigger Witch's effect... unviable for triggering Botanity's effect.[/quote']When this card is destroyed by battle and sent to the Graveyard, you can add 1 Plant-Type monster with 1500 DEF or less from your Deck to your hand. They are both optional >> It's extremely obvious that he means Witch of the Black Forest, not Velvet Witch. And he's right; being able to miss the timing renders a variety of methods, including tributing, useless.It's not very obvious when they both say "witch", and they only say "witch". It's incredibly obvious. The presence of the word "also" in Atem's post makes that clear to anyone with reading skills, especially since nobody was even comparing Botany Girl to Violet Witch, while they were both being compared to Witch of the Black Forest. Botany Girl can be activated in far more situations than Violet Witch can but far fewer than Witch of the Black Forest can, which should also make it blatantly obvious what he was talking about. More importantly, however, you could just use your head to figure out to which "Witch" he was referring. "Gee, there are two possibilities, one of which makes the statement true and one of which does not. Should I recklessly jump to the conclusion that Atem has some clue how the game works, or should I take the wiser approach and automatically assume that he's wrong? Decisions, decisions." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 There are idiots on this site. Don't blame me for assuming something. And even with your reasoning, it's still not extremely obvious. This is a topic about Violet Witch, after all, and they could have been talking about how we shouldn't discuss Botanical Girl instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 There are idiots on this site. You don't seem very good at identifying them. Don't blame me for assuming something. When your assumption makes no sense whatsoever' date=' I will blame you for assuming it. And even with your reasoning, it's still not extremely obvious. Yes, it is. However, it does require some knowledge of the English language. This is a topic about Violet Witch' date=' after all, and they could have been talking about how we shouldn't discuss Botanical Girl instead.[/quote'] Atem was saying that Botanical Girl was also not quite a Plant version of Witch of the Black Forest, so in a sense that is part of what he was saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 You're basing your side on just as much assumption as I am. It is not extremely clear what "Witch" could be, you can only assume when they give you just one word to the name. Granted that they did also mention that it had a mandatory effect, BUT they could have just gotten their card effect wrong. If I said "Guardian" can do a lot of damage to your opponent, and doesn't compare to "Ben Kei", and the topic is about one "Guardian" monster, you would have to assume I'm talking about the one that is being discussed. But I'm going to stop this before it gets any further into a subject non-related to the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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