What do you look for ina good mod?

[Brittle Ice]

Amount.

The number of members on this sites makes no difference' date=' only about 100 deserve a place. A few will be ruled out, leaving/diminishing activity, bad grammar, controversy. Leaving around 10, and out of those the best few will be found, leaving about 2 and they should both be watched for a certain duration of time, the one which has acted most maturely and is most deserving of the place should be chosen.

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I like the way this sounds,...^_^

And I agree!!!

[Black Rose Phoenix®]

When he said grammar, he also ment putting commas before full stops...¬_¬...

[Luna Diviner]

When he said grammar' date=' he also ment putting commas before full stops...¬_¬...[/color']

No, I mostly meant spelling, as long as people can understand you, then your fine. Unless (a.) people are just being nice to you or (b.) it is bad but not that bad.

[Enrise]

Moderators must have a sense of maturity, be active alot, and the way they deal with Spammers. That's the things I look in a Moderator. Posts have nothing to do with being a Moderator, however, they have to post in some forums, but not all.

 

Also, out of thousands of members on here, what is the chance of someone becoming a Moderator? About 1 to at least 10,000 or above. You would need an enormous luck to become a Moderator.

 

Enough said.

 

~The Enrise of Darkness

[Miazo]

Good mods listen to other members and are respectful to everyone.

 

They also use good grammar.

[Junk Raver]

Work.

 

Grammer should not matter, as long as it is readable / understandable of course.

 

Post Count does not matter, As you dont need to post to do a good job of taking care of the forum.

 

What Matters is the following:

 

Sensibility, Moderators need to have sense, or they cannot do the work.

 

Work, Moderators main duty is working to take care of the forum, if they can do that, and hopefully well enough, thats a good Moderator.

 

Most Moderators, if not all, that exist on this forum, were chosen because they have been seen to excel in a certain area and they help the forum within that area.

[Kale]

a good mod should be respectful, understanding, able to see a conflict from both sides (also known as un-biased), well known to a degree, and able to hold the stress of the position. Those who continuously leave the site, or use the title to use their "power" in a way not correct for the job description shouldnt apply. Those who are in the background of the site are generally excluded because who wants a mod that you have never heard of? how do you know that you can trust them? They should be able to view any subject from any side so that allows room for interpretation. if a narrow minded mod came into a situation and saw that person A was cursing at someone for something and then decided to ban person A where person B was the cause of something bigger than that is a big problem. and they have to be respectful. With the exception of Crab, no one wants a mod that looks at you as if you are an insignificant micro organism. (apologies Crab if you take offense that.)

 

the deal is that post count doesnt matter. where it can help prove your kindness, respect, and well known status, it doesnt matter how many times you post. it could be spammy posts, so does that SD Dueler deserved to be a mod? (a part of YCM History, for those of you who dont have a clue...)

 

for those reasons, i wouldnt be applicable for modship either. if i didnt spontaneously leave i would have all the qualities that a mod should be. The problem is that some of the mods dont have all the qualities, and they do where the 'Modship Sticker' as a badge of honor when they shouldnt deserve the position over some other applicable members here.

[Careless Whisper]

Alright.. A "GOOD" moderator does his/her job with no questions asked and no repeats.

 

A "BAD" moderator is one who displeases the forum members and rarely does his/her job.

 

A "Horrible" Moderator is someone who just does not get along with anyone and does not obey the rules and does not do his/her job.

 

An "Excellent" Moderator is someone who obeys the Forum Rules, enforces the forum rules, gets perfectly along with most of the members, does his/her job with the best of their ability, and grants kindness without extpecting any repayment.

 

 

There, I answered the ORIGINAL question of this thread.. Can I have a cookie now?

[Welche the crab]

Wow' date=' that is creepy, but you will never be a mod.

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I know, i'm just saying do you think they should do a certain emount of posts in the section they moderate...I don't really care for the mod position, it's a chance of 1 in thousands if you've seen the emount of members...

Actually, only about 5000 members have actually posted a amount that makes sense.

[Pikachu]

I still remember hat day when tea became a mod.....700 posts, I was shocked. Post counts have no effect whatsoever, but has a minor effect on friendship and how you have managed to be popular.

 

I suggest kindness, but since J-Max has gone all mad on attachments Crab is the only one left O.O

[Seta]

Lolz, you're right. J-Max started a new war against attachments. I know they are bad, but stll, no need for war.

[Black Rose Phoenix®]

Dark Raver, it doesn't count with you telling us how a mod should be, the point is to find out how members want you to be...your already a mod...¬_¬

[Junk Raver]

What members want is irrelevant, they get what they are given. So the point of this thread is meaningless, wishes is all they are, wishes which turn to questions, about why current Moderators do not act in such a way as you would like them to, that then turns to further questions and changes of topics, which ends up with members slating current and past moderators, questioning what the current mods do, their actions, questioning why current normal members are not moderators etc.

 

This thread = whatever we want to write regarding Moderators, any thread which involves discussions regarding aspects of moderation turns to this within due course anyway.

[MarbleZone]

What members want is irrelevant' date=' they get what they are given. So the point of this thread is meaningless, wishes is all they are, wishes which turn to questions, about why current Moderators do not act in such a way as you would like them to, that then turns to further questions and changes of topics, which ends up with members slating current and past moderators, questioning what the current mods do, their actions, questioning why current normal members are not moderators etc.

 

This thread = whatever we want to write regarding Moderators, any thread which involves discussions regarding aspects of moderation turns to this within due course anyway.

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Members should be allowed to question some moderators' actions (or lack thereof) within the limits of politeness. That said, I agree that most people do not know how to express their opinions correctly, but there is a difference between acknowledging that and ignoring a sentence like "What members want is irrelevant, they get what they are given". I find that to be arrogant beyond any reason, because moderators work solely for the site and its members, and bearing that in mind... the opinions of said members should obviously be considered important.

It's irresponsible to assume that all members are incapable of discussing staff-related subjects, and unacceptable to believe their opinions are best left ignored.

Seeing as a forum shouldn't be a dictatorship under any circumstances, I cannot help but feel uncomfortable with your post.

[JG.]

Now you blew your cahnces. They dont pick mods that advert like that. You are telling them that you want to be a mod.

[Junk Raver]

What members want is irrelevant' date=' they get what they are given. So the point of this thread is meaningless, wishes is all they are, wishes which turn to questions, about why current Moderators do not act in such a way as you would like them to, that then turns to further questions and changes of topics, which ends up with members slating current and past moderators, questioning what the current mods do, their actions, questioning why current normal members are not moderators etc.

 

This thread = whatever we want to write regarding Moderators, any thread which involves discussions regarding aspects of moderation turns to this within due course anyway.

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Members should be allowed to question some moderators' actions (or lack thereof) within the limits of politeness. That said, I agree that most people do not know how to express their opinions correctly, but there is a difference between acknowledging that and ignoring a sentence like "What members want is irrelevant, they get what they are given". I find that to be arrogant beyond any reason, because moderators work solely for the site and its members, and bearing that in mind... the opinions of said members should obviously be considered important.

It's irresponsible to assume that all members are incapable of discussing staff-related subjects, and unacceptable to believe their opinions are best left ignored.

Seeing as a forum shouldn't be a dictatorship under any circumstances, I cannot help but feel uncomfortable with your post.

 

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Dark Raver' date=' it doesn't count with you telling us how a mod should be, the point is to find out [b']how members want you to be[/b]...your already a mod...¬_¬

 

Tell me exactly why my statement is wrong, i am merely saying that what the Moderators currently act like and do is fine as it is, members should not have to give opinions on changing a moderators behaviour, its like changing the sole purpose of an object, making a tree a scrubbing brush for example.

 

Members get what Moderators they are given and they should embrace who the Moderator is, what they are like and what they do.

[MarbleZone]

I disagree. If I do not like a Moderator's performance, and expect him to do what is, in my opinion, a better job, I have the right to be vocal about it, as long as I complain in a civilized manner.

Nobody should be forced, or even expected, to like a moderator just because he is a moderator. Respect isn't automatically earned by having your name on the staff list.

 

You are making the same mistake as tea.leaf - passing your opinion off as a fact. You thinking that mods are doing their job fine doesn't make it true, and if it is true, it has nothing to do with you believing in it. Similarly, you cannot expect everybody to start thinking all the moderators do a good job because one says that they do... people have eyes to see for themselves, and the right to expect something of the staff in charge of making this an enjoyable forum for them; what's more, they have the right to complain, or simply ask, when their expectations aren't met. That said, the moderators have the right to reply and defend themselves. What they do not have the right to do... is enforce acceptance on everyone.

 

I am satisfied with the current mod lineup, and I think they do a good job. I have absolutely nothing to complain about, because mods are behaving according to my expectations. Imagine they weren't... am I not allowed to say so, as long as I'm polite?

You can't force people to blindly accept whatever they're given, Raver, it's all I'm saying. I'm not even trying to start an argument, so if you want to reply... maybe do it through PM? ;)

[Bloodrun]

Blackwind, what your saying is, that you can tell anyone what you want, and they can do it.

 

Well lets lookat this:

 

I cant eat an apple because I have to chew it, but I dont want to chew, so im just gonna tell the apple to chagne into apple sauce.

 

What im saying is, you can voice your opinion, but we (being moderators) do not have to, on whatever circumstance, change becuase you dont want us to.

 

With that said, if we do something you dont like, the Rule, Mods have final say, come into mind.

[Cyber Altair]

Your examples are confusing as hell, why don't you just give your point directly?

 

Blackwind's saying that he has the right to expect something from the mods and that what you mods say isn't always true and some other crap but not that we want you guys to do completely what we members want >.>

[MarbleZone]

Bloodrun, your example is too amusing to be taken seriously, in part because you took what I said and completely subverted it to fit your metaphor.

 

Altair got my point better than you.

 

I never said you have to change because we have the right to demand that of you. I said we have the right to expect something of mods, the right to feel disappointed when the expectations aren't met, and the right to be vocal about it. We also have the right to suggest what we think a certain mod could do so we accept him better. It's up to you, since "mods have final say", to acknowledge our opinions or not - bearing in mind that each time you ignore a plea without so much of a word, simply because "mods have final say" and there's nothing us common members can do about it, you're not getting on anybody's good side.

 

Ultimately, nobody has to do anything. Common sense, however, is a good thing to have by both parts. I only posted in reply to Raver's point of view that pretty much read "we don't care what you want or think, we're great the way we are and your opinion counts for s***.", which I think is unacceptable to hear from somebody whose only role in this forum is to improve the quality of the board for the common member.

[Cyber Altair]

I got your point just couldn't be bothered to explain it to bloodrun who's gonna try to counter it with one of his O so witty examples. btw I've got your back on this mate ;D

[WindupRabbitFan14]

Trust

[CinnamonStar]

I see that some people seem to misinterpret the "Staff have final say" rule. This doesn't put us into a superior position than anyone else on the site, nor does it mean that the mods are always right about everything. It means that for instance when a member gets banned and the whole staff team agrees that it should stay this way, s/he isn't allowed to come back under any form. Furthermore it means that every member does have the right to voice his/her opinion about the staff, however as long as it remains within the confines of politeness. This is actually where the problem lies, as some members don't seem to know the difference between giving out feedback in a polite way and tossing insults.=/

 

 

"we don't care what you want or think' date=' we're great the way we are and your opinion counts for s***."[/quote']

 

I know this was a purely hyperbolic statement, but the core of the message pretty much remains the same.

 

Excuse me, but I'm not sure if this was really what Raver intended to say. In the way I understood it, his point is that threads like this and anything among those lines can easily turn into abuse and exaggeration. Instead of recognizing the work people do, some members might focus too much on the essentially negative details at the point that they start -and now I'm using his sayings- "slating current and past moderators, questioning what the current mods do, their actions, questioning why current normal members are not moderators, etc."

At least this is the way I got it.:?

 

Actually one could argue about that point, but that's a personal opinion.

From my part, I find it obvious that the members are in the right to voice their opinions about the staff at any time, as long as they actually justify their comments and don't move over to flaming. However, then again, the staff in question are not forced to change the way other people tell them to. They can still make up their own minds and decide whether a change is needed or not, but at the very least, the opinions of the members should be considered.

 

So yeah, this refers more or less to what Blackwind said and partially to Bloodrun's statement, while leaving aside the weird example.:P

[MarbleZone]

What members want is irrelevant' date=' they get what they are given.

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This is the only thing I'm declaring to be strongly against. And there aren't a lot of alternative ways to interpret this sentence. ;)

 

Still, most of us seem to be on an approximate tune, so maybe we can finally drop this side-discussion I started?

[Catterjune]

Blackwind' date=' what your saying is, that you can tell anyone what you want, and they can do it.

 

Well lets lookat this:

 

I cant eat an apple because I have to chew it, but I dont want to chew, so im just gonna tell the apple to chagne into apple sauce.

 

What im saying is, you can voice your opinion, but we (being moderators) do not have to, on whatever circumstance, change becuase you dont want us to.[/quote']

 

Wow wow wow...

 

Okay... Let me make this as clear and succinct as possible:

 

There is a VERY clear difference between the vocabulary understood by a human and the vocabulary understood by an apple. If you truly believe your mental capacities rival those of an apple, I suggest you find help.

 

I'm not saying for mods to change if their members request it, because quite frankly I don't really care, but the points of views expressed by the current mods in this topic is quite appalling. All the mods who've posted so far seem to assume they've got a a blank check to do whatever they want.