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Dark Renewal: the uber trap hole?

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if we get this trap, could it be used like a trap hole for any monster, and we just re-summon the tribute monster from our side of the field zombie master style? (you know, send it to the grave, then pick it when the effect rolls around.)

 

just asking, since at first glance, this card looks perfectly fine to add in for the new spell caster SD coming soon.

 

plus, you can use it on DMU

 

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Renewal

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werewolfjedi Newbie

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Special Summon 1 DARK Spellcaster-Type monster from your Graveyard.

 

special summons only DARK spellcasters

 

no thanks

 

not my question.

 

why is dark only a problem for you?

 

exemplar right?

 

yeah and all the top decks run exemplar

 

I know that they don't, but they don't run dark spellcasters most of the time (only LS light ones.).

but the point of the matter is, just because they don't doesn't mean another can't, and with that kind of effect, I could get rid of almost any monster problem.

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you people are thinking about this card all wrong.

this is only summon, not normal, not special, not even successfully (the point when priority comes into play), just summoned. that kills a lot of stuff, jinzo can't stop it, and this thing does not have a level limit, it can summon any dark spellcaster type. stop think about the small ones, go for the big stuff, the dark one's got it right, endymion, cosmo queen, marionette, dark red enchanter, dark magician even can all be summoned by this card. Tea leaf even gave you a small monster, night's end, which can be used to remove cards at the same time, being summoned at the end of the effect of the trap.

 

plus, you guys aren't answering the question of if I have a dark spellcaster on the field, and they summon a monster, can I bring back the dark spellcaster I just got rid of the pay the cost.

 

the only cards that can kill it without monster help that are commonly played are mst and heavy storm. all the other ones are from general destruction monster effects, and because of the wording of the card currently, the other player does NOT get priority, and can NOT use JD to blow up the world, or DaD to destroy something, or tribute exiled, or anything at all monster based, as it does not state successfully, that key word not being there makes it like T.T., where it can go off before anything happens with the monster itself.

this may not be uber-powerful top tier trigger whenever you want type traps or spells, but that is a far to high starting requirement for any trap or spell to be good. this can take care of ANY monster BEFORE it can screw you over with an effect. that should be good enough for you.

 

like I said, you can play it on DMU, and the new spellcaster SD is not even fully unveiled yet, it could be made in that deck.

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you people are thinking about this card all wrong.

this is only summon' date=' not normal, not special, not even successfully (the point when priority comes into play), just summoned. that kills a lot of stuff, jinzo can't stop it, and this thing does not have a level limit, it can summon any dark spellcaster type. stop think about the small ones, go for the big stuff, the dark one's got it right, endymion, cosmo queen, marionette, dark red enchanter, dark magician even can all be summoned by this card. Tea leaf even gave you a small monster, night's end, which can be used to remove cards at the same time, being summoned at the end of the effect of the trap.

 

plus, you guys aren't answering the question of if I have a dark spellcaster on the field, and they summon a monster, can I bring back the dark spellcaster I just got rid of the pay the cost.

 

the only cards that can kill it without monster help that are commonly played are mst and heavy storm. all the other ones are from general destruction monster effects, and because of the wording of the card currently, [b']the other player does NOT get priority, and can NOT use JD to blow up the world, or DaD to destroy something, or tribute exiled, or anything at all monster based[/b], as it does not state successfully, that key word not being there makes it like T.T., where it can go off before anything happens with the monster itself.

this may not be uber-powerful top tier trigger whenever you want type traps or spells, but that is a far to high starting requirement for any trap or spell to be good. this can take care of ANY monster BEFORE it can screw you over with an effect. that should be good enough for you.

 

like I said, you can play it on DMU, and the new spellcaster SD is not even fully unveiled yet, it could be made in that deck.

 

you do know that the turn player has priority.

 

and it doesn't negate the summoning so your opponent can still use his monster's effect if he calls priority.

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you people are thinking about this card all wrong.

 

WRONG

 

this is only summon' date=' not normal, not special, not even successfully (the point when priority comes into play),

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WRONG

 

just summoned. that kills a lot of stuff' date='

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WRONG

 

jinzo can't stop it' date='

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WRONG

 

and because of the wording of the card currently' date=' the other player does NOT get priority,

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WRONG

 

and can NOT use JD to blow up the world' date='

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WRONG

 

or DaD to destroy something' date='

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WRONG

 

or tribute exiled' date='

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WRONG

 

or anything at all monster based' date='

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WRONG

 

as it does not state successfully' date=' that key word not being there makes it like T.T., where it can go off before anything happens with the monster itself.

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WRONG

 

this can take care of ANY monster BEFORE it can screw you over with an effect.

 

WRONG

 

The lack of the word "successfully" is meaningless. Meaningless. It has no meaning. It means nothing. For all intents and purposes' date=' the word "successfully" may as well be there. Its absence has [i']no effect[/i]. There is no net change. The status quo is unbroken. No change is effected. It makes no difference whatsoever. To say otherwise is WRONG.

 

I don't know where you're getting this nonsense about the absence of the word "successfully" having such a strong effect. If a Summon is successful, then it is successful, and if it is unsuccessful, then no Summon occurred; thus, the presence of the word "successfully", or lack thereof, does not mean anything. This drivel about the lack of the word "successfully" giving this card the ability to break the rules of the game is simply that: drivel. Not to mention WRONG.

 

Since it doesn't negate the Summon, the monster hits the field, and since the monster hits the field, its effect can be used via priority. This card does not tamper with these fundamental game mechanics. Nor does Torrential Tribute, which most certainly permits the opponent to claim priority, especially since neither of these cards can be activated until after the opponent has had a chance to claim priority anyhow. Whatever delusions you have about these being godly priority-busters are WRONG.

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Also' date=' I like typing WRONG in all caps. WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONGITY WRONG WRONG

 

This ends up being strong theme support for Spellcasters, but people aren't going to be splashing Spellcasters into every last one of their other decks just so they can use this.

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then they need to fix the DS gaems.

 

the computer does it me all the time, (T.T. and a few other cards) and it's annoying as hell. and yes I do hold down the A button.

 

well, I guess with cleared up, I have a somewhat new perspective on the wording of cards.

 

oh well. ON TO THE NEXT CARD!

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