How to break a terrorist.

[Bloodrun]

Author Matthew Alexander, was interviewed on the Colbert Report for his book "How to break a terrorist".

http://www.theskyewire.com/

 

He claims that treating the terrorists like humans, and giving them respect, allowed them to interogate them more successfully.

 

Whooduh thunk'?

[Guest JoshIcy]

There is without a doubt of fact that a person will be more open to someone he trusts.

Thus, this method will undoubtably* work. The issue is about the persons own individual perspective on each matter, and how to work each strain on their ego, making it nice and soft to the point where a person respects you.

 

Also, even if a person does in fact respect you. Given their default locations, one can assume they will not trust giving you away the information out of previous respect to whoever it was they were in contact with. Since giving you information may be more personal, and your own ability to let them go to a private comfortable place may not be in your power to do so. (Though if you do strain this, they may respect you more for trying, or respect you less out of pessimism). So either way, you tread dangerous ground.

 

Breaking a Terrorist is no more different than any other human being, you simply have more walls to go through. Due to intense belief or otherwise.

 

*: Lol, my firefox does not recognize that word despite the wording/spelling being correct.

[Bloodrun]

There is without a doubt of fact that a person will be more open to someone he trusts.

Thus' date=' this method will undoubtably* work. The issue is about the persons own individual perspective on each matter, and how to work each strain on their ego, making it nice and soft to the point where a person respects you.

 

Also, even if a person does in fact respect you. Given their default locations, one can assume they will not trust giving you away the information out of previous respect to whoever it was they were in contact with. Since giving you information may be more personal, and your own ability to let them go to a private comfortable place may not be in your power to do so. (Though if you do strain this, they may respect you more for trying, or respect you less out of pessimism). So either way, you tread dangerous ground.

 

Breaking a [i']Terrorist[/i] is no more different than any other human being, you simply have more walls to go through. Due to intense belief or otherwise.

 

*: Lol, my firefox does not recognize that word despite the wording/spelling being correct.

 

But to really understand this issue, you have to think at the source that caused it.

War.

What causes war?

Power.

What causes power?

Money.

What do we do for money?

Just about anything.

 

You see, if Terrorists are no longer proned to crack under power and torture. The human race has single handedly, change the way people come to view what is acceptable to support the means of life.

 

When you put your own body in danger for a belief, to the verge of death. That belief is no longer just a belief, it is a vital life source for you to live your life.

[Guest JoshIcy]

There is without a doubt of fact that a person will be more open to someone he trusts.

Thus' date=' this method will undoubtably* work. The issue is about the persons own individual perspective on each matter, and how to work each strain on their ego, making it nice and soft to the point where a person respects you.

 

Also, even if a person does in fact respect you. Given their default locations, one can assume they will not trust giving you away the information out of previous respect to whoever it was they were in contact with. Since giving you information may be more personal, and your own ability to let them go to a private comfortable place may not be in your power to do so. (Though if you do strain this, they may respect you more for trying, or respect you less out of pessimism). So either way, you tread dangerous ground.

 

Breaking a [i']Terrorist[/i] is no more different than any other human being, you simply have more walls to go through. Due to intense belief or otherwise.

 

*: Lol, my firefox does not recognize that word despite the wording/spelling being correct.

 

But to really understand this issue, you have to think at the source that caused it.

War.

What causes war?

Power.

What causes power?

Money.

What do we do for money?

Just about anything.

 

You see, if Terrorists are no longer proned to crack under power and torture. The human race has single handedly, change the way people come to view what is acceptable to support the means of life.

 

When you put your own body in danger for a belief, to the verge of death. That belief is no longer just a belief, it is a vital life source for you to live your life.

 

Irrelevant. A person grown/bred or taught a certain belief makes it a choice.

And choice is how a person lives there life, one way or another.

 

Thus, they do have a reasoning, (everyone does). Albeit sick pleasure, personal pride, self-interest, vengeance or what have you. Each person, in some form (even if forced) makes this choice. Therefore, they are able to crack given a specific type of pressure.

 

It is a belief.

[Bloodrun]

There is without a doubt of fact that a person will be more open to someone he trusts.

Thus' date=' this method will undoubtably* work. The issue is about the persons own individual perspective on each matter, and how to work each strain on their ego, making it nice and soft to the point where a person respects you.

 

Also, even if a person does in fact respect you. Given their default locations, one can assume they will not trust giving you away the information out of previous respect to whoever it was they were in contact with. Since giving you information may be more personal, and your own ability to let them go to a private comfortable place may not be in your power to do so. (Though if you do strain this, they may respect you more for trying, or respect you less out of pessimism). So either way, you tread dangerous ground.

 

Breaking a [i']Terrorist[/i] is no more different than any other human being, you simply have more walls to go through. Due to intense belief or otherwise.

 

*: Lol, my firefox does not recognize that word despite the wording/spelling being correct.

 

But to really understand this issue, you have to think at the source that caused it.

War.

What causes war?

Power.

What causes power?

Money.

What do we do for money?

Just about anything.

 

You see, if Terrorists are no longer proned to crack under power and torture. The human race has single handedly, change the way people come to view what is acceptable to support the means of life.

 

When you put your own body in danger for a belief, to the verge of death. That belief is no longer just a belief, it is a vital life source for you to live your life.

 

Irrelevant. A person grown/bred or taught a certain belief makes it a choice.

And choice is how a person lives there life, one way or another.

 

Thus, they do have a reasoning, (everyone does). Albeit sick pleasure, personal pride, self-interest, vengeance or what have you. Each person, in some form (even if forced) makes this choice. Therefore, they are able to crack given a specific type of pressure.

 

It is a belief.

 

But we are talking about humans here.

Not animals, animals learn through trial and error.

Humans learn, by what were told.

 

Taking this information, a person subjected to a solitude environement, i.e. a terrorist. Has time to rethink what he/she has learned, second guess it, an re-institute a new rule. Therefore, they themselves could "crack" themselves.

 

We are treating humans like a dog, while instead we should treat them like a human.

[Guest JoshIcy]

 

But we are talking about humans here.

Not animals' date=' animals learn through trial and error.

Humans learn, by what were told.

 

Taking this information, a person subjected to a solitude environement, i.e. a terrorist. Has time to rethink what he/she has learned, second guess it, an re-institute a new rule. Therefore, they themselves could "crack" themselves.

 

We are treating humans like a dog, while instead we should treat them like a human. [/quote']

 

I thought the idea of torture was nulled by the article itself?

[Bloodrun]

 

But we are talking about humans here.

Not animals' date=' animals learn through trial and error.

Humans learn, by what were told.

 

Taking this information, a person subjected to a solitude environement, i.e. a terrorist. Has time to rethink what he/she has learned, second guess it, an re-institute a new rule. Therefore, they themselves could "crack" themselves.

 

We are treating humans like a dog, while instead we should treat them like a human. [/quote']

 

I thought the idea of torture was nulled by the article itself?

 

It is, I was just talking about how you were compelled to post, just because it was about The Human Mind ;)

[Guest JoshIcy]

 

But we are talking about humans here.

Not animals' date=' animals learn through trial and error.

Humans learn, by what were told.

 

Taking this information, a person subjected to a solitude environement, i.e. a terrorist. Has time to rethink what he/she has learned, second guess it, an re-institute a new rule. Therefore, they themselves could "crack" themselves.

 

We are treating humans like a dog, while instead we should treat them like a human. [/quote']

 

I thought the idea of torture was nulled by the article itself?

 

It is, I was just talking about how you were compelled to post, just because it was about The Human Mind ;)

 

:|

[Bloodrun]

 

But we are talking about humans here.

Not animals' date=' animals learn through trial and error.

Humans learn, by what were told.

 

Taking this information, a person subjected to a solitude environement, i.e. a terrorist. Has time to rethink what he/she has learned, second guess it, an re-institute a new rule. Therefore, they themselves could "crack" themselves.

 

We are treating humans like a dog, while instead we should treat them like a human. [/quote']

 

I thought the idea of torture was nulled by the article itself?

 

It is, I was just talking about how you were compelled to post, just because it was about The Human Mind ;)

 

:|

 

Oh come on Icy.

You have think about all sides of the situation before you can make a true opinion.

[Jericho]

The best way to break a terrorist is to freeze them with liquid nitrogen and hit them with a hammer.

[ragnarok1945]

no, that's painless for them.

 

You put them in one of those torture traps from saw and make them go nuts trying to survive

[Jericho]

I never said you break them all at once. Freeze a finger or two to begin, then work your way to the feet, or arms, or ect.

[ITI3L33]

The best way is to treat them the way they do whatever they do to the people they make their victims.

 

Like...

Kill them.

[ragnarok1945]

I never said you break them all at once. Freeze a finger or two to begin' date=' then work your way to the feet, or arms, or ect.

[/quote']

 

So is putting them in a saw trap, you break them little by little

[Jericho]

I never said you break them all at once. Freeze a finger or two to begin' date=' then work your way to the feet, or arms, or ect.

[/quote']

 

So is putting them in a saw trap, you break them little by little

 

But that kills them too fast and doesn't allow them to see the damage so you can threaten them with more. /argument

[ragnarok1945]

actually some of the saw traps kill very slowly, most don't even kill at all

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

They aren't terrorists any more than the US army is. The US army attacks them, so when they try to attack back, they're "terrorists". From their perspective the US army are the terrorists, which is why they're fighting them in the first place.

 

If the US interrogaters just torture information out of them, they're just being terrorists. If they recognize that their Government has done wrong things in the past and treat the "terrorists" like normal humans, which they are, they're not terrorists and they're doing the right thing, and they can get closer to the goal of making peace with all of the countries they've attacked.

 

So there's no downside to diplomacy, and many downsides to violance and torture, I don't see why the choice is so difficult for the interrogators to make.

 

D-Vader: A kill for a kill leaves the whole world dead.

 

ragnarok and Omega: And you want them to die slow painful deaths for fighting for a just cause because?

[Revan]

Make them eat Macdonalds! They'll totally tell you what you need to know....or die of a heart attack.

[ragnarok1945]

Make them eat Macdonalds! They'll totally tell you what you need to know....or die of a heart attack.

 

if you want them to die of a heart attack you can just shove a few sticks of butter down their throats. The fat will clog their arteries

[Willieh]

I disagree. I think we should beat them with no-no sticks and tell them to shut up. That way they will say "Hey, maybe we should stop being bad. I don't want to get hit with no-no sticks or be told to shut up!"

[ragnarok1945]

or just stick a hose into them and pump water into their stomachs until they explode

[The_Prince_of_Death]

put needles in their finger tips, thenwait or them to say please stop the pain, then they die, then you shock them back into life and get the info out of them then kill them for good.(from prison break)

[Guest JoshIcy]

They aren't terrorists any more than the US army is. The US army attacks them' date=' so when they try to attack back, they're "terrorists". From their perspective the US army are the terrorists, which is why they're fighting them in the first place.

 

If the US interrogaters just torture information out of them, they're just being terrorists. If they recognize that their Government has done wrong things in the past and treat the "terrorists" like normal humans, which they are, they're not terrorists and they're doing the right thing, and they can get closer to the goal of making peace with all of the countries they've attacked.

 

So there's no downside to diplomacy, and many downsides to violance and torture, I don't see why the choice is so difficult for the interrogators to make.

 

D-Vader: A kill for a kill leaves the whole world dead.

 

ragnarok and Omega: And you want them to die slow painful deaths for fighting for a just cause because?

[/quote']

 

Best post in this whole thread.

 

or just stick a hose into you and pump water into their stomachs until they explode

 

Fail post is fail.

Stick to the topic and cut the lulz.

 

We are talking about real people, not Quadrapedal* Mammals who are primarily focused on instinct.

 

*: Another word that isnt in Firefox' dictionary.

[Willieh]

They aren't terrorists any more than the US army is. The US army attacks them' date=' so when they try to attack back, they're "terrorists". From their perspective the US army are the terrorists, which is why they're fighting them in the first place.

 

If the US interrogaters just torture information out of them, they're just being terrorists. If they recognize that their Government has done wrong things in the past and treat the "terrorists" like normal humans, which they are, they're not terrorists and they're doing the right thing, and they can get closer to the goal of making peace with all of the countries they've attacked.

 

So there's no downside to diplomacy, and many downsides to violance and torture, I don't see why the choice is so difficult for the interrogators to make.

 

D-Vader: A kill for a kill leaves the whole world dead.

 

ragnarok and Omega: And you want them to die slow painful deaths for fighting for a just cause because?

[/quote']

 

Actually they're terrorists because they massively terrorize people to acheive victory. We only terrorise the terrorists because they are a threat.

 

You don't see the US army taking hotels hostage and blowing up national monuments do you?

 

And it's hardly a just cause. Global dictation? Yesh. Very just. Besides, the enemy is always the enemy and the ally is always the ally. If you care so much for the terrorists, you must be their ally; in which case join them. Face the facts; the world is never just. There is not "good" side. But at least the US is trying to rid the world of terrorists who dictate and destroy everything they can. The US motive; probably not to rid the world of these terrorists. But at least their doing it; and that's all that really counts when action is a factor.

[Azuh]

They aren't terrorists any more than the US army is. The US army attacks them' date=' so when they try to attack back, they're "terrorists". From their perspective the US army are the terrorists, which is why they're fighting them in the first place.

 

If the US interrogaters just torture information out of them, they're just being terrorists. If they recognize that their Government has done wrong things in the past and treat the "terrorists" like normal humans, which they are, they're not terrorists and they're doing the right thing, and they can get closer to the goal of making peace with all of the countries they've attacked.

 

So there's no downside to diplomacy, and many downsides to violance and torture, I don't see why the choice is so difficult for the interrogators to make.

 

D-Vader: A kill for a kill leaves the whole world dead.

 

ragnarok and Omega: And you want them to die slow painful deaths for fighting for a just cause because?

[/quote']

 

Actually they're terrorists because they massively terrorize people to acheive victory. We only terrorise the terrorists because they are a threat.

 

You don't see the US army taking hotels hostage and blowing up national monuments do you?

 

Off Topic: Team America saves the day again, by blowing up half of Cairo