Tech LS Vs D-Heros

[Skarlet]

In general, which make better tech Lightsworn or Destiny Heros, Please give reasons

 

3 of many advantages for each archtype can be found below

 

[spoiler=Lightsworn's advantages]

1) potentialy useful Mill

2) Solar Recharge, good draw power and the above

3) many useful effects

 

 

[spoiler=D-hero's advantages]

1) Allurable

2) Higher-ups are Trade-in able

3) Destiny Draw

 

[Guest PikaPerson01]

Depends on the deck, though I find Ryko is decent enough to main in most decks, and Lyla can make for a mildly decent side deck card.

[Skarlet]

"in General" was in the first post, this refers to simply over all asd opposed to specific decks

[Mr. Judgment Dragon]

D-Heroes by themselves dont work anywhere near as well as Lightsworns, even with the advantage of 2 extra sets of draw spells.

 

CONCLUSION: LS by themselves >>>> D-Heroes by themselves.

[Skarlet]

once again you are missing the point, this topic discusses using them as TECH - SPLASHING them

[Exiro]

I prefer LS because, in addition to speeding up my deck by draws as well as mills, they offer answers to any kind of situation, which is just what I need in addition to the strategy my deck already has. D-Heroes are more the type of guys that enhance my strategy, for example getting Synchros/Monarchs out with Malicious, using Diamond Dewd w/ Zombie Carrier to use cards w/o costs, etc.

[Skarlet]

oh god the sheer draw power, solemns, and allures, and solars, holy god that's gotta be fast

[Mr. Judgment Dragon]

once again you are missing the point' date=' this topic discusses using them as TECH - SPLASHING them

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Well then, it really depends on what you are after. For DAD-based Decks, I would usually throw in around 6 D-Heroes (3 Malicious, and 3 of something else) as well as a set of Allures and D-Draws as the base. If I feel I need more draw power like in a Turbo Draw Exodia Deck I would throw in 3 Plasmas and 3 Dogmas as well as 3 Allures, 3 D-Draws and 3 Trade-Ins. If I need more chances of getting possible discard fodder, I would throw Dreadmaster in as well solely for the draw power. If I need a degree of control, 3 Malicious instead of Dreadmaster as well as a CCV could do the trick. Of course Stratos is not and should not be ignored when using D-Heroes.

 

Lightsworns have the power to add excellent speed and usefulness at the same time. Lyla and Ryko are the most splashable ones. 3 Lylas and 2 Rykos (3 is too much) as well as 3 Recharges are the standard for more speed IMO. 2 or 3 Charges could be thrown in for searching power if needed. Additional mill as well as a new card in my hand that could be used for discard fodder (usually for Recharge) or for removal. If I need some variation, I would add other Lightsworns to suit the type of Deck. For a Dragon-based Deck, Gragonith as well as the standard would do the trick. 1 additional Dragon in the Graveyard, 2 new cards in my hand, and potentially 2 additional Dragons in the Graveyard. Gragonith of course could not normally be thrown into any Deck for more speed. Leveling affects its searchability and the effect isn't exactly reliable.

 

Splashables:

 

For LS:

 

3x Lyla, LS Sorceress

2x Ryko, LS Hunter

3x Solar Recharge

2x or 3x Charge of the Light Brigade

 

For D-Heroes:

 

Turbo Draw:

 

3x D-Hero - Plasma

3x D-Hero - Dogma

3x D-Hero - Dreadmaster

1x E-Hero Stratos

3x Allure

3x D-Draw

3x Trade-In

 

Quick Draw w/ some Control:

 

3x D-Hero - Plasma

3x D-Hero - Dogma

3x D-Hero - Malicious

1x E-Hero Stratos

3x Allure

3x D-Draw

3x Trade-In

1x CCV

 

Synchro:

 

3x D-Hero - Malicious

1x or 2x D-Hero - Doom Lord

1x or 2x D-Hero - Diamond Dude

1x E-Hero Stratos

3x Allure

3x D-Draw

1x CCV

 

LS is sorta more clear cut. Those cards could be used in almost any Deck mainly due to the fact the effects are similar to that of existing cards outside the LS archetype. Example: Lyla = LS equivalent of Breaker, Ryko = LS equivalent of OVM, Solar Recharge = LS equivalent of D-Draw, CotLB = LS equivalent of RotA. The Lightsworn engine can still be adjusted to fit a certain Deck.

 

D-Heroes have more options and can be adapted to most deck strategies. The Synchro Draw engine is sorta the one TeleDAD uses.

 

These 2 have one thing in common. They can both essentially be used to speed the Deck up. The real difference is how they do it. LS mills as well as draws and the D-Hero archetype draws using one of its 2 or 3 draw spells.

 

Lets see their strengths and weaknesses:

 

LS:

 

Strengths:

 

Search Spell that is Unlimited

Self Milling can be beneficial if done properly

They have their own Draw Spell

Effects of the good ones (Lyla and Ryko in particular) are useful in more than one way

Warrior-type LS have access to RotA as an instant search card

 

Weaknesses:

 

Self milling can hurt if done recklessly (not really a weakness but more of a warning)

No instant searchability for the higher level LS (not really an issue since Celestia isnt really used outside of LS and Gragonith has very limited viable deck placement options)

 

D-Heroes:

 

Strengths:

 

They all are compatible with at least 2 draw Spells (Allure of Darkness and D-Draw)

The higher Level D-Heroes (Level 8 ones in particular) that can be used with up to 3 Draw Spells (Same as above + Trade-In)

Lower level D-Heroes (Level 4 or lower have access to RotA)

Higher level D-Heroes can be searched instantly

 

Weaknesses:

 

Searchability of higher leveled D-Heroes is literally Limited (E-Hero Stratos)

Very few easily summonable D-Heroes have useful effects (Doom Lord, Diamond Dude and Malicious are exceptions to this. Disk Commander doesnt count as it is banned)

 

Its hard to say which one is better but again, one set of archetype specific cards can be the better option in a certain deck.

[CrabHelmet]

D-Heroes require a more extensive engine. It largely depends on where you draw the line between "splashing" and "making an integral part of the deck".