[DISC] Judgement Dragon vs "Light Armed Dragon"

[Jesus]

Ok, let's pretend that Judgement Dragon was banned.

 

Let's also pretend that this card was just released:

 

Light Armed Dragon

LIGHT/7/2800/1000/Effect/Dragon

This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except by having exactly 3 LIGHT monsters in your Graveyard. You can remove from play 1 LIGHT monster in your Graveyard to destroy 1 card on the field.

 

Ok, let's also pretend that you just got jumped by the people who work at Konami. They take you back to KDE, and tell you that you can either Keep Light Armed Dragon, or Keep Judgement Dragon. The price of Judgement is 120, and the price of 'LAD' is 200. The question is, do you ban 'LAD' and unban JD, or do you keep it the way Konami set it up?

 

Basicly that paragraph asks:

 

Which would you rather use in today's meta, and why?

What would top, LS or TeleDAD.

 

Discuss.

 

Go.

[Mr. Judgment Dragon]

Ok' date=' let's pretend that Judgement Dragon was banned.

 

Let's also pretend that this card was just released:

 

Light Armed Dragon

LIGHT/7/2800/1000/Effect/Dragon

This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except by having exactly 3 LIGHT monsters in your Graveyard. You can remove from play 1 LIGHT monster in your Graveyard to destroy 1 card on the field.

 

Ok, let's also pretend that you just got jumped by the people who work at Konami. They take you back to KDE, and tell you that you can either Keep Light Armed Dragon, or Keep Judgement Dragon. The price of Judgement is 120, and the price of 'LAD' is 200. The question is, do you ban 'LAD' and unban JD, or do you keep it the way Konami set it up?

 

Basicly that paragraph asks:

 

Which would you rather use in today's meta, and why?

What would top, LS or TeleDAD.

 

Discuss.

 

Go.

 

Both JD and LAD would be banned on a good list, but that aside:

 

1. I would just use JD since LS is the only useable LIGHT Deck and it is more productive for LS. LS lacks the grave control that LAD would need.

2. As for which one would top, TeleDAD would still be top. It is just more explosive than LS.

[iAmNateXero]

Both are bad, IMO and not necessarily bad for the game. Lights have a harder time managing the graveyard, so the LAD would see alot less play, especially in LS. Dad would still top, i mean you Banned its No. 1 Contender.

[Jesus]

These two responses were all I need.

 

Now, let's pretend that the card text on 'LAD' was changed to "6 or more LIGHT monsters with different names".

 

Which would you run then?

[iAmNateXero]

1. I would just use JD since LS is the only useable LIGHT Deck and it is more productive for LS. LS lacks the grave control that LAD would need.

 

You never Played a good little city deck have you?

 

These two responses were all I need.

 

Now' date=' let's pretend that the card text on 'LAD' was changed to "6 or more LIGHT monsters with different names".

 

Which would you run then?

[/quote']

 

I would defiantly run LAD. Now all we need is a generic Light Draw card like Allure.

[Mr. Judgment Dragon]

1. I would just use JD since LS is the only useable LIGHT Deck and it is more productive for LS. LS lacks the grave control that LAD would need.

 

You never Played a good little city deck have you?

 

Little City contriadicts LAD and Special Summons in general. The fact Little City isnt fast enough is what makes it unreliable IMO.

 

These two responses were all I need.

 

Now' date=' let's pretend that the card text on 'LAD' was changed to "6 or more LIGHT monsters with different names".

 

Which would you run then?

[/quote']

 

I would still rather run JD.

[Jesus]

..^ Any reasoning behind that 'you'd just rather run JD' ?

[iAmNateXero]

1. I would just use JD since LS is the only useable LIGHT Deck and it is more productive for LS. LS lacks the grave control that LAD would need.

 

You never Played a good little city deck have you?

 

Little City contriadicts LAD and Special Summons in general. The fact Little City isnt fast enough is what makes it unreliable IMO.

 

These two responses were all I need.

 

Now' date=' let's pretend that the card text on 'LAD' was changed to "6 or more LIGHT monsters with different names".

 

Which would you run then?

[/quote']

 

I would still rather run JD.

 

you do know there is a king tiger build that side decks oppression. first game, this card is boss.

[Mr. Judgment Dragon]

..^ Any reasoning behind that 'you'd just rather run JD' ?

 

Isn't it obvious.

 

At least 4 different LS in the Graveyard is much easier to achieve in a dedicated LS Deck than 6 different LIGHTs.

 

Advantages of JD in terms of summoning conditions:

 

4 different LS in your Grave is easy to achieve in a dedicated Deck.

 

Disadvantages:

 

Restricted to its Archetype.

 

Advantages of LAD #2 (Ill call the one that requires 6 Different LIGHTs that) in terms of summoning conditions:

 

The 6 different LIGHTs are not Limited to a specific Archetype.

 

Disadvantages:

 

6 different LIGHTs is still more difficult to achieve than 4 different LS.

 

Lightsworn would still be able to facilitate LAD #2 because the milling of LS contributes well to the summoning condition.

 

In saying this, you did clearly state one or the other could be used. The only non-LS LIGHTs that are mained in LS are Honest and JD. GoO could be placed in there although I dont see it mained and maybe PMD would be sided in. Not much difference here. It would still equal 4 different LS + Honest + PMD (if sided into the match) since you clearly stated it was JD or LAD that could be used and not both.

[Megaworm]

im sick of -armed dragon cards and their ilk.

 

I would prefer JD because it nukes the field, in apposed to easy summoning and minor card destruction, which can be done with both cards to begin with.

[The Dark One]

LAD#2 also increases Freed the Brave Wanderer's value, as well as that of Thuner King Rai Oh.

 

I think that LAD#2 would certainly be better for the game. (It allows for more creativity when constructing decks, and more variety from deck to deck.)

 

However, I don't know if a LAD#2 deck would be better or worse than a JD deck. One would allow for far more tech than the other, and tech can win you games, but it just might be too hard to summon.

 

Monsters: 25

2 LAD#2 (I'm assuming we're keeping it at the equivalent place on the banlist)

3 Honest

2 Celestia

2 Lumina

2 Lyla

1 Ryko

1 Ehren

1 Garoth

1 Jain

1 D.D. Warrior Lady

1 Freed the Brave Wanderer

3 Thunderking Rai Oh

1 Cyber Dragon

1 Guardian of Order

1 Asura Priest

1 Herald of Orange Light

1 Councilor Lily

 

Spells: 11

3 Charge of the Light Brigade

3 Solar Recharge

1 Heavy Storm

1 Monster Reborn

1 Brain Control

2 Reinforcement of the Army

 

Traps: 6

2 Threatening Roar

2 Phoenix Wing Wind Blast

2 Solemn Judgment

 

Deck Total: 42

 

Extra Deck:

2 Magical Android

3 Goyo Guardian

3 Black Rose Dragon

2 Stardust Dragon

2 Though Ruler Archfiend

2 Avenging Knight Parshath

1 Gyzarus

 

Looks very random, doesn't it?

[Tickle Me Emo]

Well this is tough. LAD#2 is a bit harder to get out but at the same time its more splashable. LS could abuse both cards as LS can fill teh grave faster. With Lad#2's condition raised to 6 or more it would almost definitely allow you to field nuke with some ammo left and allows you to make some more interesting decks like LS Return. Thus in theory this could enough to knock Tele-DAD down a bit, and make it realize it isnt the only death deck in teh meta. I think the LAD#2 would be better for the meta considering its current brokeness and would ban JD.

[Tickle Me Emo]

Well this is tough. LAD#2 is a bit harder to get out but at the same time its more splashable. LS could abuse both cards as LS can fill teh grave faster. With Lad#2's condition raised to 6 or more it would almost definitely allow you to field nuke with some ammo left and allows you to make some more interesting decks like LS Return. Thus in theory this could enough to knock Tele-DAD down a bit, and make it realize it isnt the only death deck in teh meta. I think the LAD#2 would be better for the meta considering its current brokeness and would ban JD.