arkel Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 I don't know too much about making a banlist, but I'm sure I can make something better than what Konami gives us. I. Forbidden CardsBLACK LUSTER SOLDIER - ENVOY OF THE BEGINNING BUTTERFLY DAGGER - ELMA CALL OF THE HAUNTED CHAOS EMPEROR DRAGON - ENVOY OF THE END CHAOS SORCERER COLOSSAL FIGHTERCONFISCATION CRUSH CARD VIRUSCYBER DRAGONCYBER JAR DARK ARMED DRAGONDARK HOLE DARK MAGICIAN OF CHAOS DESTINY HERO - DISK COMMANDER DIMENSION FUSION EXCHANGE OF THE SPIRITFIBER JAR GLADIATOR BEAST HERAKLINOSGOYO GUARDIANGRACEFUL CHARITY HARPIE'S FEATHER DUSTER IMPERIAL ORDER JUDGMENT DRAGONLAST TURN LAST WILL MAGICAL SCIENTIST MAGICIAN OF FAITH MONSTER REBORNPAINFUL CHOICE PLAGUESPREADER ZOMBIEPOT OF GREED RAIGEKI RING OF DESTRUCTION SINISTER SERPENT SNATCH STEAL SNIPE HUNTERSOLEMN JUDGMENTTHE FORCEFUL SENTRY THOUSAND-EYES RESTRICT TIME SEAL TRIBE-INFECTING VIRUS TSUKUYOMI VICTORY DRAGON WITCH OF THE BLACK FOREST YATA-GARASU NEW! --- COLOSSAL FIGHTER, CRUSH CARD VIRUS, CYBER DRAGON, DARK ARMED DRAGON, GLADIATOR BEAST HERAKLINOS, GOYO GUARDIAN, JUDGMENT DRAGON, MONSTER REBORN, PLAGUESPREADER ZOMBIE, SNIPE HUNTER, SOLEMN JUDGMENT II. Limited CardsBLACK ROSE DRAGONBRAIN CONTROL CARD OF SAFE RETURNCEASEFIRE CELESTIA, LIGHTSWORN ANGELCHAIN STRIKECHANGE OF HEARTCHARGE OF THE LIGHT BRIGADED. D. CROWD. D. WARRIOR LADY DELINQUENT DUOELEMENTAL HERO PRISMAELEMENTAL HERO STRATOS EXODIA THE FORBIDDEN ONEGIANT TRUNADE GLADIATOR BEAST GYZARUSGLADIATOR BEAST MURMILLOGORZ THE EMISSARY OF DARKNESSGRAVITY BIND GREEN BABOON, DEFENDER OF THE FOREST HEAVY STORM HONESTLEVEL LIMIT - AREA B LIMITER REMOVAL MAGIC CYLINDER MANTICORE OF DARKNESSMARSHMALLON METAMORPHOSISMEZUKIMIRROR FORCE MORPHING JAR NEO-SPACIAN GRAND MOLE NIGHT ASSAILANT OJAMA TRIO PREMATURE BURIALRETURN FROM THE DIFFERENT DIMENSION SANGANSMASHING GROUND SPIRIT REAPER TEST TIGERTORRENTIAL TRIBUTE TRAP DUSTSHOOT TREEBORN FROG UNITED WE STAND NEW! --- BLACK ROSE DRAGON, CARD OF SAFE RETURN, CELESTIA, LIGHTSWORN ANGEL, CHAIN STRIKE, CHANGE OF HEART, CHARGE OF THE LIGHT BRIGADE, D.D. CROW, DELINQUENT DUO, ELEMENTAL HERO PRISMA, GLADIATOR BEAST GYZARUS, GLADIATOR BEAST MURMILLO, HONEST, MANTICORE OF DARKNESS, METAMORPHOSIS, MEZUKI, PREMATURE BURIAL, TEST TIGER III. Semi-Limited CardsDESTINY HERO - MALICIOUSEMERGENCY TELEPORTKREBONSRAIZA THE STORM MONARCH NEW! --- EVERYTHING NO LONGER RESTRICTED --- MAKYURA THE DESTRUCTOR, MIRAGE OF NIGHTMARE, ADVANCED RITUAL ART, BREAKER THE MAGICAL WARRIOR , CARD DESTRUCTION, CARD TROOPER, DANDYLION, FUTURE FUSION, GOLD SARCOPHAGUS, LEFT ARM OF THE FORBIDDEN ONE, LEFT LEG OF THE FORBIDDEN ONE, MEGAMORPH, MIND CRUSH, MONSTER GATE, MYSTICAL SPACE TYPHOON, OVERLOAD FUSION, REASONING, RIGHT ARM OF THE FORBIDDEN ONE , RIGHT LEG OF THE FORBIDDEN ONE, SCAPEGOAT, SWORDS OF REVEALING LIGHT, THE TRANSMIGRATION PROPHECY, TWIN-HEADED BEHEMOTH, ULTIMATE OFFERING , WALL OF REVEALING LIGHT, EVERYTHING THAT USED TO BE SEMI-LIMITED I think I'm forgetting a few things, but I'm not sure. Feel free to criticize and make the list better. I was tired while making this, so please point out any errors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilhorus Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 for the lazier people (me and countless others) please post cards that are new to a limitcategory or are now available in 3's: ex:FORBIDDEN:Judgment DragonDark Armed DragonSnatch Steal NEW: JD DAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkel Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 for the lazier people (me and countless others) please post cards that are new to a limitcategory or are now available in 3's: ex:FORBIDDEN:Judgment DragonDark Armed DragonSnatch Steal NEW: JD DAD Done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skuldur Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 That is a horrible ban list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.B. strategist Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 There are a lot of things wrong with this list, but for starters: NO LONGER RESTRICTED --- EXCHANGE OF THE SPIRIT You must be joking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilhorus Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 There are a lot of things wrong with this list' date=' but for starters: NO LONGER RESTRICTED --- EXCHANGE OF THE SPIRIT You must be joking. beat me 2 it 0_ooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkel Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 I thought this would be bad. Anyway, Exchange of the Spirit now banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexh Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 sangan!he's rubbish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkel Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 sangan!he's rubbish So you're saying to make Sangan unrestricted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 This list is all wrong There should be no semi-limits, except for maybe Destiny Hero - Malicious, but thats optional Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevalier Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 sangan!he's rubbish Lol YCM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkel Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 There should be no semi-limits' date=' except for maybe Destiny Hero - Malicious, but thats optional[/quote'] I disagree. There are many cards that are near useless at 1 but broken at 3. And in any good list, Malicious is at 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skuldur Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 DARK BRIBEDARK GREPHERDESTINY HERO - MALICIOUSEMERGENCY TELEPORTGLADIATOR BEAST BESTIARIKREBONSPHOENIX WING WIND BLASTRAIZA THE STORM MONARCHSANGAN Tell me why these cards are useless at 1 and broken at 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevalier Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 SANGAN Tell me why these cards are useless at 1 and broken at 3 Why would Sangan ever be at anything but one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkel Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 DARK BRIBE - 1 allows 1 negation and a draw for the opponent' date=' 3 allows you to stop your opponent 3 times.[/b']DARK GREPHERDESTINY HERO - MALICIOUS - 1 is only good for d-draw fodder, 3 allows for the easiest way to synchro out there.EMERGENCY TELEPORT - 1 Krebons, big whoop. 3, see second part of Malicious.GLADIATOR BEAST BESTIARI - 1 blows up a S/T and can easily die. 3 makes quick Gyzarus.KREBONS - see E-port.PHOENIX WING WIND BLAST - 1 will do a single spin - whatever. 3 supplies semi-broken field control.RAIZA THE STORM MONARCH - see PWWBSANGAN - This is the only one I think doesn't really need to be here. I'm putting him at 1. Tell me why these cards are near useless at 1 and broken at 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skuldur Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 DARK BRIBE - 1 allows 1 negation and a draw for the opponent' date=' 3 allows you to stop your opponent 3 times.[/b'] BalancedDARK GREPHERDESTINY HERO - MALICIOUS - 1 is only good for d-draw fodder, 3 allows for the easiest way to synchro out there.EMERGENCY TELEPORT - 1 Krebons, big whoop. 3, see second part of Malicious. GLADIATOR BEAST BESTIARI - 1 blows up a S/T and can easily die. 3 makes quick Gyzarus. BalancedKREBONS - see E-port. BalancedPHOENIX WING WIND BLAST - 1 will do a single spin - whatever. 3 supplies semi-broken field control. BalancedRAIZA THE STORM MONARCH - see PWWBSANGAN - This is the only one I think doesn't really need to be here. I'm putting him at 1. Tell me why these cards are near useless at 1 and broken at 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevalier Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 DARK BRIBE - 1 allows 1 negation and a draw for the opponent' date=' 3 allows you to stop your opponent 3 times.[/b']DARK GREPHERDESTINY HERO - MALICIOUS - 1 is only good for d-draw fodder, 3 allows for the easiest way to synchro out there.EMERGENCY TELEPORT - 1 Krebons, big whoop. 3, see second part of Malicious.GLADIATOR BEAST BESTIARI - 1 blows up a S/T and can easily die. 3 makes quick Gyzarus.KREBONS - see E-port.PHOENIX WING WIND BLAST - 1 will do a single spin - whatever. 3 supplies semi-broken field control.RAIZA THE STORM MONARCH - see PWWBSANGAN - This is the only one I think doesn't really need to be here. I'm putting him at 1. Dark Bribe is no where near Broken. It results in a +1 for your opponent seeing that you're actually spending a card and they're drawing one. You didn't comment on Grepher, which looking at it, was intelligent because there is no reason to touch him at all. Mali has been taken care of, why touch E-Tele and Krebs? Since Bestiari destroys a S/T is Murmillo broken because it hits monsters? Gyzarus is the problem not Bestiari. Bestiari is balanced Theme Support. PWWB makes you discard to top deck one. You waste PWWB and send 1, you lose 2 and your opponent loses 1. No where near broken field control. Raiza, is good but is fine at 2. Sangan is at 1 on any good list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkel Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Bribe, Grepher, Bestiari, and PWWB now at 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.B. strategist Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 COLOSSAL FIGHTERGLADIATOR BEAST HERAKLINOSPLAGUESPREADER ZOMBIESOLEMN JUDGMENTBLACK ROSE DRAGONCHANGE OF HEARTD.D. CROWDELINQUENT DUODESTINY HERO - DIAMOND DUDEELEMENTAL HERO PRISMAGLADIATOR BEAST MURMILLOMANTICORE OF DARKNESSPREMATURE BURIALTEST TIGERULTIMATE OFFERINGCYBER STEIN - ...not on list anywhere... Reasonings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkel Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 COLOSSAL FIGHTER - unbeatable in battleGLADIATOR BEAST HERAKLINOS - discard 1 to negate any s/tPLAGUESPREADER ZOMBIE - can create an otkSOLEMN JUDGMENT - unbelievably broken in this metaBLACK ROSE DRAGON - 1 field nuke is enoughCHANGE OF HEART - just a tad better than mind controlD.D. CROW - with all the graveyard stuff goin' on nowadays' date=' 3 is a bit broken[/b']DELINQUENT DUO - today's format really doesn't care if stuff is in the graveDESTINY HERO - DIAMOND DUDE - not really sure why that's there. putting it at 3.ELEMENTAL HERO PRISMA - quick gyzarus.GLADIATOR BEAST MURMILLO - reusable monster blowuptuateMANTICORE OF DARKNESS - can create otkPREMATURE BURIAL - tcg doesn't have brionacTEST TIGER - broken at 3ULTIMATE OFFERING - seriously, who cares about this card?CYBER STEIN - ...not on list anywhere... - pay 5000 for a fusion that can be killed by virtually any s/t. Reasonings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.B. strategist Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 COLOSSAL FIGHTER - unbeatable in battle So is any monster that can't be destroyed by battle... Let's ban The Wicked Avatar!GLADIATOR BEAST HERAKLINOS - discard 1 to negate any s/t Good' date=' you read the card. Your point?[/i']PLAGUESPREADER ZOMBIE - can create an otk ...and yet I fail to see the existence of such cards on this list as All-Out Attacks and The World, what makes those combos less ban-worthy then the Plaguespreader one? And, is Plaguespreader actually the problem in that OTK? Why not ban Card of Safe Return? (If I remember correctly and it is used in that OTK...) SOLEMN JUDGMENT - unbelievably broken in this meta [The current format does not affect a card's ban-worthiness.BLACK ROSE DRAGON - 1 field nuke is enough I'm waiting for your reasoning that this is bad for the game at 3...CHANGE OF HEART - just a tad better than mind control Gives you instant advantage that can be used for anything, unlike Mind Control, whose main purpose is just for Synchros.D.D. CROW - with all the graveyard stuff goin' on nowadays, 3 is a bit brokenDELINQUENT DUO - today's format really doesn't care if stuff is in the grave Again, today's format has no sway over whether a card should be banned or not. It also gives you instant advantage for a very small cost, like Pot of Greed and Change of Heart.DESTINY HERO - DIAMOND DUDE - not really sure why that's there. putting it at 3. Good.ELEMENTAL HERO PRISMA - quick gyzarus. Then why not ban Gyzarus?GLADIATOR BEAST MURMILLO - reusable monster blowuptuate If you're banning it because of that, ban Bestiari. It can only be re-used if it actually survives a battle...MANTICORE OF DARKNESS - can create otk Card of Safe Return is the problem here.PREMATURE BURIAL - tcg doesn't have brionac The banlists are made for both formats.TEST TIGER - broken at 3 Still waiting for a reasoning...ULTIMATE OFFERING - seriously, who cares about this card? The problem card in several OTKs, not sure about this one besides that.CYBER STEIN - ...not on list anywhere... - pay 5000 for a fusion that can be killed by virtually any s/t.Counterability is not an accurate scale to determine balance. Also, it's primary purpose is simply for OTKs, so why are you going to care about a drop in Life Points? Reasonings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 This list is horrible, your thought process (where it exists) is horrible, and your decisions are horrible. I'll summarize your stupidity in three words: You Unbanned Prem. This looks like the product of someone who has heard of 3/0 lists and maybe has glanced at one before but doesn't understand the concept at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SephirothKirby Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 You only limit cards that cannot co-exist with other copies of itself (ie, Stratos). You do not limit cards because they are "less bad for the game". They are not any less bad for the game at that number, it will just occur less often, which =/= balance. I notice you say "this format" a lot. You do realize, you are creating the new format, sheesh. This list is horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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