Willieh Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 personaly i like the dark side of things but the world is not evil. if it were there would only be anarchy. just for the record you could do something evil but good could come of it. ex:if you kill a killer you did a good thing by doing something evil. Government is part of the reason the world is dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 This world is beautiful and we are perfect in the form we manifest in every single moment of our being. The point I want to make is you can never escape from your fate, the mistake is to take without giving, to love without living and vica versa. What's gonna happens gonna happen and the evils we perceive, everything we believe to exist, is made up. Our brains create our entire lives, supposedly based on some outside world we live in. I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm gonna make the best of it, if my brain makes the world I live in, I'm going to make the future, and it is going to be bright and beautiful in every single waking moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Dahlia Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 You beleive in fate?Personally I don't, only because it can't be proven.Perhaps 'fate' is just another term, simply made by us humans... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willieh Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 You beleive in fate?Personally I don't' date=' only because it can't be proven.Perhaps 'fate' is just another term, simply made by us humans...[/quote'] Everything that happens to you is fate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Dahlia Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 You beleive in fate?Personally I don't' date=' only because it can't be proven.Perhaps 'fate' is just another term, simply made by us humans...[/quote'] Everything that happens to you is fate. ...Whatever dude...But I still can't get myself to beleive it. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willieh Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 You beleive in fate?Personally I don't' date=' only because it can't be proven.Perhaps 'fate' is just another term, simply made by us humans...[/quote'] Everything that happens to you is fate. ...Whatever dude...But I still can't get myself to beleive it. Sorry. So you're saying that everything that happens to you is completely random? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 You beleive in fate?Personally I don't' date=' only because it can't be proven.Perhaps 'fate' is just another term, simply made by us humans...[/quote'] Everything that happens to you is fate. ...Whatever dude...But I still can't get myself to beleive it. Sorry. So you're saying that everything that happens to you is completely random? ...I forget, are you an athiestfag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willieh Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 You beleive in fate?Personally I don't' date=' only because it can't be proven.Perhaps 'fate' is just another term, simply made by us humans...[/quote'] Everything that happens to you is fate. ...Whatever dude...But I still can't get myself to beleive it. Sorry. So you're saying that everything that happens to you is completely random? ...I forget, are you an athiestfag? No just a trollfag. I take whichever side disagrees with the person I'm replying to. <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 Well let me compliment you on that. You do a damn fine job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Dahlia Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 Yes, I beleive that everything that happens is not related to fate or destiny.It's called decision making skills. You have options. Will you cross the street if you see a car coming? Your life is affected by everyday decisions that EVERYONE makes, not just your own.This alleged 'fate' that exists, hasn't even been proven to actually exist yet, so until it does, I beleive in common knowledge, sense, and of course, decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willieh Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 Yes' date=' I beleive that everything that happens is not related to fate or destiny.It's called decision making skills. You have options. Will you cross the street if you see a car coming? Your life is affected by everyday decisions that EVERYONE makes, not just your own.This alleged 'fate' that exists, hasn't even been proven to actually exist yet, so until it does, I beleive in common knowledge, sense, and of course, decisions.[/quote'] Everything that happens is the effect of a cause. Therefore, everything that happens is, indeed, destined to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Dahlia Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 Can fate be proven?Being brainwashed into beleiving something exists, dosen't make it true.People don't apply this 'fate' into their everyday lives, because they know it's not real. In fact, I only hear this word 'fate' when people talk about 'love.' But it's all bull$hit because the 'love' usually only lasts about 2 years, tops.You make a decision on life. it's not predetermined, you're deciding to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 Most people would come to the conclusion that fate does indeed exist. All things happen because of cause and effect. Even our choices are influenced by previous experience, and its completely impossible to go against everything you've learned, thought etc to do an action.At least on the assumption that free will doesn't exist. If you argue that it does, then that opens up a whole new can of worms that I would rather keep out of this topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 Can fate be proven?Being brainwashed into beleiving something exists' date=' dosen't make it true.People don't apply this 'fate' into their everyday lives, because they know it's not real. In fact, I only hear this word 'fate' when people talk about 'love.' But it's all bull$hit because the 'love' usually only lasts about 2 years, tops.You make a decision on life. it's not predetermined, you're deciding to do it.[/quote'] Uh. My parents have been married for over 10 years. And yes, everything you do in life is predetermined. You were destined to make that post, just as I was destined to post this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willieh Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 Can fate be proven?Being brainwashed into beleiving something exists' date=' dosen't make it true.People don't apply this 'fate' into their everyday lives, because they know it's not real. In fact, I only hear this word 'fate' when people talk about 'love.' But it's all bull$hit because the 'love' usually only lasts about 2 years, tops.You make a decision on life. it's not predetermined, you're deciding to do it.[/quote'] I said the same thing when Eli told me everything was predetermined. You're fighting an uphill battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Dahlia Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 Fine. You guys win.Even still, I beleive that 'fate' isn't real. I will argue this 'till the end, but i'm tired ATM.You guys believe in something that has never been proven before... But whatever. Everyone to each's own, I guess.Goodnite! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 Fate is something that cannot be proven with empirical evidence. It takes looking at the philosophical and logical points and implications to decide whether or not the concept of fate exists, much like god. Even then, you can only really "prove" it to yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 Fate is something that cannot be proven with empirical evidence. It takes looking at the philosophical and logical points and implications to decide whether or not the concept of fate exists' date=' much like god. Even then, you can only really "prove" it to yourself.[/quote'] Yeah, this pretty much sums up what would've been my post. Fate does not exist. People substitute the word TIMING, and use FATE instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willieh Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Fate is something that cannot be proven with empirical evidence. It takes looking at the philosophical and logical points and implications to decide whether or not the concept of fate exists' date=' much like god. Even then, you can only really "prove" it to yourself.[/quote'] Yeah, this pretty much sums up what would've been my post. Fate does not exist. People substitute the word TIMING, and use FATE instead. Fate is just a funked up word to use. The problem is, people hear the word "fate" and immediately think of fairies and gay cartoons about people who draw symbols on their hands so that they'll be spiritually linked to each other. But, regardless, everything is still predetermined by... umm... I guess it would be very loose physics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 If everything was predetermined, we would be able to do nothing to change the outcome. Imagine two parelell dimensions. I exist in both. I am in a plane. The plane crashes. There is a life vest next to me. My fate is written that I will die. I have two options: to put on the life vest or not. Generally speaking, one will save me and the other will kill me. You'd have to go into some deep physics and account for every possibility to say either option will make me die. And yet there are still things that can happen that goes against that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willieh Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 If everything was predetermined' date=' we would be able to do nothing to change the outcome. Imagine two parelell dimensions. I exist in both. I am in a plane. The plane crashes. There is a life vest next to me. My fate is written that I will die. I have two options: to put on the life vest or not. Generally speaking, one will save me and the other will kill me. You'd have to go into some deep physics and account for every possibility to say either option will make me die. And yet there are still things that can happen that goes against that.[/quote'] Let's say you see that life vest. Naturally, because you want to live, you will take the vest. You were forced by cause and effect to take it. You didn't actually take it because you wanted to live, you took it because the plane was crashing, because the pilot was unprepared, because he has marital problems that cause him to be restless, because he was cheating on his wife... etc. Inevitably, you WERE going to take that life vest. Essentially, everything that happens is because of cause/effect. It's like if you thump a line of dominoes, it's just that the events in your life are the dominoes, and once the last domino falls you're dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 You still had the option to not take the vest, thinking that you could be saved some other way, and if you died, it was alright. You HAD an option, and I doubt both options would lead to the same outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Dahlia Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Thanks dark. You actually understand what i'm talking about...There's no fate. just decision making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Thanks dark. You actually understand what i'm talking about...There's no fate. just decision making. There is no substantial proof fate even exists. It's all about timing and decisions. Or at least, that is what I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Dahlia Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 OMG THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS SAYING!!!Are you psychic? XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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