J-Max Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 Balances the whole "First Turn advantage" thing. What makes this card broken is the fact that it is a Special Summon. If it was Normal Summon without Tribute then it would be a Generic Beatstick allowable at 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy person Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 if you ask me this card is fine at 3 Oh, I almost forgot! LOL Toni. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 well its only the fusions that are the real problem cydra at 3 is fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy person Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 well its only the fusions that are the real problem Wrong. Though they are one of the problems. cydra at 3 is fine Just stop Toni. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 no actually what is soo bad for the same all it is is a beartstick and is normally used for monarch fodder, and none is complaining about monarchs!, and there is countless ways of gettign monarch fodder anyhoo also i dont see anyone complaining about wulf? a cydra in the deck is about as useful as a wulf in the hand think about it that way also if cydra was at 3 it wouldnt be used very much, exept in monarch decks, and this isnt goign to be a monarch controlled meta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy person Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 no actually what is soo bad for the same all it is is a beartstick and is normally used for monarch fodder' date=' and none is complaining about monarchs!, and there is countless ways of gettign monarch fodder anyhoo also i dont see anyone complaining about wulf? [b']It is an archtype specific beater that is completely and totaly dead in hand.[/b] a cydra in the deck is about as useful as a wulf in the hand think about it that way Cydra is an over aggressive splashable beater. Besides, that's like saying painful choice(or any card for that matter) in the deck is useless. also if cydra was at 3 it wouldnt be used very much, exept in monarch decks, and this isnt goign to be a monarch controlled meta Easy synchroing and an over aggressive beater that rewards bad play and punishes good play. Yeah, you're right, no one would use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ Chidori-Kun Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 no actually what is soo bad for the same all it is is a beartstick and is normally used for monarch fodder' date=' and none is complaining about monarchs!, and there is countless ways of gettign monarch fodder anyhoo also i dont see anyone complaining about wulf? [b']It is an archtype specific beater that is completely and totaly dead in hand.[/b] a cydra in the deck is about as useful as a wulf in the hand think about it that way Cydra is an over aggressive splashable beater. Besides, that's like saying painful choice(or any card for that matter) in the deck is useless. also if cydra was at 3 it wouldnt be used very much, exept in monarch decks, and this isnt goign to be a monarch controlled meta Easy synchroing and an over aggressive beater that rewards bad play and punishes good play. Yeah, you're right, no one would use it. 1.) But Cydra would onlly be run in Monarchs and Aggro. 2.) But it isn't over aggresive. Solemn, Shrink, Bottemless, Waboku in current META say hi 3.) But field presence this META is better due to less field nuking... If this was at three and fusions were banned, Synchroing could be a problem but not as fast as before. also, synchro options are less likely because Jesus(Goyo) is 6 and only LV 6 tuner is Mind Master in TCG. Also, current META GB, LS, and Anti MEta wouldn't be impacted much by 3 Cydra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 It would be more acceptable if you couldn't Normal Summon afterwards, how could people not see this as a problem. Also, Twilight maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 Easy' date=' overaggressive and very versatile beatstick that rewards bad play and punishes good ones. Banworthy.[/quote'] + high-fives JD + Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 a cydra in the deck is about as useful as a wulf in the hand think about it that way Toni, I can't even begin to describe how dumb you are. Go back to TCGPlayer, you pathetic excuse for a human being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 a cydra in the deck is about as useful as a wulf in the hand think about it that way Toni' date=' I can't even begin to describe how dumb you are. Go back to TCGPlayer, you pathetic excuse for a human being.[/quote'] Can't you just ban people for extreme numbness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 Surely neither of you can read that tonisanoob is a Legendary Member. It is obviously shown in his member title. Also, he is a member of a yugioh club. That instantly doubles your skill. Not to mention one of his threads is "teak it frum teh best hur", clearly indicating that he is the best on this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 a cydra in the deck is about as useful as a wulf in the hand think about it that way Toni' date=' I can't even begin to describe how dumb you are. Go back to TCGPlayer, you pathetic excuse for a human being.[/quote'] Can't you just ban people for extreme numbness? If I were to do that, the site would have about ten people left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 a cydra in the deck is about as useful as a wulf in the hand think about it that way Toni' date=' I can't even begin to describe how dumb you are. Go back to TCGPlayer, you pathetic excuse for a human being.[/quote'] Can't you just ban people for extreme numbness? If I were to do that, the site would have about ten people left. Yeah. It'd just be me, you, and a couple of other people. Anyway, Cyber Dragon should be banned. Not only is it an effortlessly Summonable beatstick, it allows for easy Field Control thanks to Chimeratech Fortress Dragon. There aren't many monsters that can run over this card that are actually good and can be Summoned without having to fulfill some sort of requirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 Surely neither of you can read that tonisanoob is a Legendary Member. It is obviously shown in his member title. Also' date=' he is a member of a yugioh club. That instantly doubles your skill. Not to mention one of his threads is "teak it frum teh best hur", clearly indicating that he is the best on this site.[/quote'] Bullshit. I'm a vital part of Pojo (?), a respected member of this site (?), and a voice to heard in DuelistGroundz (?). Beat that, noob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 Surely neither of you can read that tonisanoob is a Legendary Member. It is obviously shown in his member title. Also' date=' he is a member of a yugioh club. That instantly doubles your skill. Not to mention one of his threads is "teak it frum teh best hur", clearly indicating that he is the best on this site.[/quote'] Bullshit. I'm a vital part of Pojo (?), a respected member of this site (?), and a voice to heard in DuelistGroundz (?). Beat that, noob. Tabris is like a god. I mean, he invented Lord Smith! =P Look, sooner or later Toni is going to realize that, while he may be good (I don't really know), he's nowhere near the best duelist on this site. For now, we'll just have to kind of tune him out. Why is it that Cyber Dragon was limited? What did Konami hope to accomplish by doing so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 Surely neither of you can read that tonisanoob is a Legendary Member. It is obviously shown in his member title. Also' date=' he is a member of a yugioh club. That instantly doubles your skill. Not to mention one of his threads is "teak it frum teh best hur", clearly indicating that he is the best on this site.[/quote'] Bullshit. I'm a vital part of Pojo (?), a respected member of this site (?), and a voice to heard in DuelistGroundz (?). Beat that, noob.Well, I'm contemplating whether that was actually a serious response or sarcastic, I'll get back to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 i herd cydra fits into anydeck nowadays! i herd cydra is as good now as it was 5 formats ago! i herd everyone is trying to prove me wrong but not actually coming up with more reasons other than"its a skilless beatstick"or"its bad for the game" how does it harm the game in anyway?-1 to hand?2100 oh god i forgot nothign has more attack than this and spells and traps dont exist give me a break cydra at 3 is fine and you all fuckign know it the only reason everyone is sayin git isnt is because crab helmet says it should be banned cydra would only be used on monarchscompared to other decks monarchs arnt very good ad this is on the basis the fusions are banned, and even at that that isnt as much of a problem as other cards that arnt banned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 i herd cydra fits into anydeck nowadays! i herd cydra is as good now as it was 5 formats ago! i herd everyone is trying to prove me wrong but not actually coming up with more reasons other than"its a skilless beatstick"or"its bad for the game" False. Especially if you consider every other topic about Cyber Dragon' date=' ever. how does it harm the game in anyway?-1 to hand? Why, yes, it harms the game by being a -1 to the user's hand. This is exactly why we all want it banned, and is no way a ridiculous strawman argument rivaled in its stupidity only by... everything else you have posted. 2100 oh god i forgot nothign has more attack than this and spells and traps dont exist This argument could be used to justify keeping anything from Gorz to Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning legal. Protip: That's bad. give me a break cydra at 3 is fine and you all fuckign know it Why' date=' yes, we all know that Cyber Dragon is perfectly fine at 3. We only say it should be at 0 as a sarcastic parody of n00bs from TCGPlayer who want it banned. the only reason everyone is sayin git isnt is because crab helmet says it should be banned Ah, how grand it is to live in a world where all opposing arguments can be hadwaved away on the grounds that... Crab Helmet agrees with it, so it must be false. To be honest, there are probably a few idiots who just parrot intelligent players to look cool, but if you're just going to ignore all of the legitimately intelligent players who want Cyber Dragon banned and intend to dismiss people like Tabris as Crab mouthpieces, then you're even more delusional than I thought. And I know you think you're the best on this site, so that's saying something. Oh, and this is my first serious post in this thread. I dunno, I guess everyone was parroting me without me even saying anything. cydra would only be used on monarchscompared to other decks monarchs arnt very good Fascinating hypothesis. Prove it. ad this is on the basis the fusions are banned' date='[/quote'] Its Fusions were never a factor here. That's like saying that Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning should go to 3 on the grounds that it doesn't have any Fusions. and even at that that isnt as much of a problem as other cards that arnt banned God, you don't even understand the basic premise of 3/0. Just get out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 i herd cydra fits into anydeck nowadays! Cyber Dragon is a pretty splashable card. There aren't many Decks that it couldn't fit into. i herd cydra is as good now as it was 5 formats ago! Cyber Dragon's effect hasn't changed. It's still just as good' date=' but it's not used much because of the limitations placed on it.[/b'] i herd everyone is trying to prove me wrong but not actually coming up with more reasons other than"its a skilless beatstick"or"its bad for the game" Being a skill-less Beatstick DOES make it bad for the game because it takes away from other cards that could make more of an impact, but have trouble doing so because they have to worry about a 2100 ATK Beatstick being dropped on the field and attacking them. how does it harm the game in anyway?-1 to hand?2100 oh god i forgot nothign has more attack than this and spells and traps dont exist OMG I'm going to agree with Crab here, but basing it's placement on the list on the fact that Spells and Traps exist is a horrible arguement. In that case, let's unban every Monster card that is banned. How exactly is a -1 to the hand bad for the game? give me a break cydra at 3 is fine and you all fuckign know it No. the only reason everyone is sayin git isnt is because crab helmet says it should be banned No. cydra would only be used on monarchs Yeah, cause it's not a LIGHT monster that could be used in a variety of Decks due to its splashability. compared to other decks monarchs arnt very good What's better than them right now? Lightsworn/Twilight? That's about it. ad this is on the basis the fusions are banned, and even at that that isnt as much of a problem as other cards that arnt banned English, please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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