U.S going towards communism

[Kenny Bohner]

Pure Communism is humanly impossible to create.

 

Not quite... it's improbable' date=' I'll give you that. Thing is, though, if we ever [i']could[/i]... ten bucks says a Christian fucks it up.

[Tabris]

The U.S is very strong' date='many people look up to the U.S (Not trying to say its better than everyone else) but now we are going down to a communist government

 

Communism is a very terrible thing,you have no fair trials in jury,you always have to agree with it,they command what house you live in,whats your job etc.

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One thing to do before hollerin':

 

PROVE IT.

[Kenny Bohner]

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[Mets 'n' Mox5]

The U.S is very strong' date='many people look up to the U.S (Not trying to say its better than everyone else) but now we are going down to a communist government

 

Communism is a very terrible thing,you have no fair trials in jury,you always have to agree with it,they command what house you live in,whats your job etc.

discuss[/font']

 

I agree. Communism is bad.

[Dr. Cakey]

The U.S is very strong' date='many people look up to the U.S (Not trying to say its better than everyone else) but now we are going down to a communist government

 

Communism is a very terrible thing,you have no fair trials in jury,you always have to agree with it,they command what house you live in,whats your job etc.

discuss[/font']

 

I agree. Communism is bad.

 

That necrobump was beautiful. Truly I have never seen a necrobump of such elegance.

[Survivor]

With the government literally controlling every aspect of our lives, we are definatly heading towards communism.

 

1st of all, we have so many government run programs that are initiated to control us and deprive us of freedoms. In addition, our businesses are being controlled by the government. Doesn't the term "Federal Bailout" apply here? The government is under control of businesses, schools, housing, and even communication methods. Did you know that everytime that you talk or text on a cellphone or even a house phone that the government listens to every word that you say?

 

Big Brother anyone? The government controls our lives on a day to day basis and we have been denied freedoms that we should be able to have such as the right to bear arms, etc. (I do not mean that any person is allowed to just by a weapon. Get proper training and a registration with background checks and psychological testing.)

 

But our government is definatly going in that direction, and now with government run healthcare, which even controls our day-to-day well being, we might be able to be cut off from living. How is this the land of the Free? And the home of the brave certainly doesn't apply anymore. Sadly. :(

[Great Unclean One: VK]

The government is turning to a Communist state, or even worse......

 

 

You want proof?

 

Look up ACTA.

 

They drafted it and everything without telling us, and guess what? Not only is the U.S. is in it, but no, it includes Mexico, Canada, Japan (The anime industry is gonna start to REALLY hurt now), and some other countries in South America and not to mention nearly all the European countries.

 

China and Russia so far is the only ones I know who ain't in this.

 

This means one thing.

 

I'm immigrating Russia.

 

Quick, to Rosetta Stone!

[Guest Supreme Gamesmaster]

Communism is a very terrible thing' date='you have no fair trials in jury,you always have to agree with it,they command what house you live in,whats your job etc.

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That's fascism.

 

Communism is an economic theory that's actually far superior to capitalism, except the USA and every other country in the world bigger than Monaco is too infested with greedy worthless morons to pull it off. (And the countries equal to and smaller than it are populated by nationalistic fools who are too arrogant and stupid to realize the economic and social advantages of being part of a larger country, due to their rabid devotion to something that doesn't exist.)

 

The USA, unfortunately, shows no signs of touching communism. Or socialism, its more controlling prerequisite that basically consists of beating the aforementioned worthless morons into submission (closer to, but not as bad as, what you were suggesting).

 

Note also that the US government is only as stupid as its people, who are no doubt far more infantile and lacking in perspective. As a US citizen, I can safely say that I'm not scared at all of my government, and that wielding the slippery slope fallacy to compare us to Big Brother is irrational optimism; if the government were becoming more controlling, perhaps the nation's idiots (in the original and modern senses) could be weeded out of the vote, and then we'd be getting somewhere. I'd like to cite the hopelessly basic political quiz on which the nation's countless Internet-users scored a 44%.

[NeoDemonX]

Yo people this is how it is and I am going to show you.

 

Communism---Socialism---Capitalism

China Canada USA

[Guest Supreme Gamesmaster]

No, no, no:

Ineffectually-Socialist Fascism - China

Not-Actually-Communist-At-All-Due-To-The-Existence-Of-Free-Trade Democracy - Canada

Not-Actually-Capitalist-Due-To-The-Failure-Of-Laissez-Faire Democracy - USA

 

USA is more warmongering, so it has a great deal of political power, but Canada does have the best healthcare in the world (I've heard that quoted in Europe, America, and freakin' Japan, so Imma trust it) and a lower percentage of fundie loons.

 

Methinks Canada is in the best spot here.

[Dr. Cakey]

With the government literally controlling every aspect of our lives' date=' we are definatly heading towards communism.

 

1st of all, we have so many government run programs that are initiated to control us and deprive us of freedoms. In addition, our businesses are being controlled by the government. Doesn't the term "Federal Bailout" apply here? The government is under control of businesses, schools, housing, and even communication methods. Did you know that everytime that you talk or text on a cellphone or even a house phone that the government listens to every word that you say?

 

Big Brother anyone? The government controls our lives on a day to day basis and we have been denied freedoms that we should be able to have such as the right to bear arms, etc. (I do not mean that any person is allowed to just by a weapon. Get proper training and a registration with background checks and psychological testing.)

 

But our government is definatly going in that direction, and now with government run healthcare, which even controls our day-to-day well being, we might be able to be cut off from living. How is this the land of the Free? And the home of the brave certainly doesn't apply anymore. Sadly. :(

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So...I'm trying to figure out if you're a troll or not. You have over 3k posts, but...nobody could be that stupid, right? This doesn't even deserve a response.

[NeoDemonX]

No' date=' no, no:

Ineffectually-Socialist Fascism - China

Not-Actually-Communist-At-All-Due-To-The-Existence-Of-Free-Trade Democracy - Canada

Not-Actually-Capitalist-Due-To-The-Failure-Of-Laissez-Faire Democracy - USA

 

USA is more warmongering, so it has a great deal of political power, but Canada does have the best healthcare in the world (I've heard that quoted in Europe, America, and freakin' Japan, so Imma trust it) and a lower percentage of fundie loons.

 

Methinks Canada is in the best spot here.

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Thank you I think my Countries heath care system is the best too... ya for seeing a doctor for free.

[Guest Supreme Gamesmaster]

I think that everything deserves a response, no matter how brain-dead, so I'll give it a try.

[spoiler=In the not-too-distant future...]

With the government literally controlling every aspect of our lives' date=' we are definatly heading towards communism.

[b']We start with... a hyperbole. Thesis statements are supposed to summarize the points you'll be making, not be vague, demagogue-tastic appeals to emotion. Of course, demagogy is what the USA does best. Also, you reference "the government... controlling every aspect of our lives," implying you're talking about fascism, and then you switch to talking about an economic system that flourishes in anarchy.[/b]

 

1st of all, we have so many government run programs that are initiated to control us and deprive us of freedoms.

This would be fine except that "so many" implies that it's going to be followed by a conclusion, like "Nanoha and Fate have so many romantic moments together THAT anyone who says they're straight is either in denial or writing an AU." Actually, 'so many' would have been better. But it's definitely an improvement; methinks the Regents Exam board in NYS would take this on a Global exam, at least for a 3 of 5.

 

In addition,

To what? You haven't stated any supporting details yet; you barely posted a topic sentence.

 

our businesses are being controlled by the government.

Oh, you just started a new paragraph without supporting details... or line breaks... from your last one. w/e.

 

Doesn't the term "Federal Bailout" apply here?

You tell me.

 

...you know what, don't. It doesn't; that was a last-ditch effort to save what little capitalism can exist in a functional society.

 

The government is under control of businesses,

Name one business under the direct and communistic control of the government. Hell, name one business under the direct and Soviet-esque control of the government.

 

schools,

Knowing that Andrew Schlafly is a homeschool teacher, the only reason I can sleep soundly at night is because the government, which has a vested interest in making me a possible economic contributor to its domain in the future, is in charge of mine education rather than a moron who has a vested interest in making me a conformist peon to an imaginary evil god or a businessman who has a vested interest in stealing my tuition fees. Actually, that's one of the reasons I'm dreading college.

 

housing,

I wouldn't know, since I'm too young and frugal to really care about housing. Nevertheless, I think it sort of makes sense; assuming the role of the government is to keep its domain from falling apart while generating funds and followers for itself, providing housing without some vile manipulative scheme behind it seems to be a logical thing to do.

 

and even communication methods.

It really isn't, though; the first amendment still applies (I only write this because I'm listening to "Wind God Girl" as I do so). If it were, I wouldn't have to have nightmares about Ann Coulter giving helpless children autism and polio.

 

Did you know that everytime that you talk or text on a cellphone or even a house phone that the government listens to every word that you say?

If you think that this is a bad thing, you probably have something to hide while talking on the phone, which you shouldn't, and need to adjust your perspective on life in general. People have put up with government-controlled postal services until now; I don't see why that should change.

 

Big Brother anyone?

Big Brother is someone I mainly know for becoming so absurdly good at manipulation that he managed to destroy science and mathematics altogether. The government, as aforementioned, is the only reason I know of science and mathematics. I have checked this against a) non-government sources with no interest in manipulating the educated, b) the word of the public, manifested in Wikipedia, and c) most importantly, mine own empirical observations, the keystone of science altogether; so far, the government is doing a much better job of telling me the truth than any other institution I've ever heard of.

 

Even China, which is the closest thing the world has to Big Brother, is hopelessly ineffectual in a globalized society such as today's; Chinese youth mis-educated in Big Brother-like conditions immediately learn the truth as soon as they visit a country like, oh, the USA. In my parts, at least, tales of forlorn Chinese students learning of Tiananmen Square are a dime a dozen, and banning Code Geass (which, humorously, bears a close resemblance to tales of Sun Tzu, a real-life Chinese hero and overall awesome guy) didn't work out all that well, either.

 

The government controls our lives on a day to day basis and we have been denied freedoms that we should be able to have such as the right to bear arms, etc.

I dunno; a butcher knife, a compound bow, and a large metal baseball bat are pretty much enough for me insofar as "arms." I don't really feel the need to own an SMG.

 

(I do not mean that any person is allowed to just by a weapon. Get proper training and a registration with background checks and psychological testing.)

lolwut

Don't do this to us! You've been spouting poorly-supported bull for this whole essay, and now you put, in parentheses, logical, sound, and duly commanding advice! Well, it's better than going on being a moron, I suppose, but still, it's confusing to know whether to hate you or not...

 

But our government is definatly going in that direction, and now with government run healthcare, which even controls our day-to-day well being,

One of the first things I learned about essay-writing (after the bit about how to structure topic and thesis sentences) was "Don't wait until the conclusion to add more information. It's 'so the point of all that was...,' not 'oh, btw, I forgot...'"

 

Incidentally, I've seen literary sources from the USA, England, France, and, yes, even Japan saying that Canada, our obviously-socialist neighbors with government-controlled healthcare, "has the best healthcare in the world." Besides, the government has much more incentive to keep us, as future generators of revenue, soldiers, and loyal subjects, healthy and alive than private companies out to turn a profit. Given recent news about doctors and drug tests, I think I might be happier if the government took over healthcare. But I think what you're referring to is the creation of a public option of health insurance, which would be about as stupid as saying "Washington DC destroyed marriage" when all it did was allow more people to participate in marriage.

 

To give you an idea of my perspective, both of my parents are doctors.

 

we might be able to be cut off from living. How is this the land of the Free?

They call that by many names, including "anarchy," meaning "no government," and "utopia," meaning "nonexistent place." Incidentally, "anarchy" implies that the people are smart enough to take care of themselves, which puts it in the category of "utopia."

 

And the home of the brave certainly doesn't apply anymore. Sadly. :(

Yes, we're stuck with warmongers who mysteriously avoid actual war service and pundits who mysteriously avoid political service. Where are the Founding Fathers, who had dodging skills that would make Reimu and Marisa proud, battled valiantly for the sake of the life and liberty they believed in, restricted election of Congressmen to state legislatures, put the postal service under the government's direct control, and gave the Constitution the power to change and adapt to future changes in morality and circumstance? ...hey, wait...

 

[The Dark One]

IonicIvy has made one excellent point so far:

 

The ACTA is absolute bullshit.

[~/Coolio Prime\~]

There has never been a legitimately communist country since the dictator never gives up his power. That being said, legitimate communism would be a wonderful thing.

[seattleite]

I only have a problem with communism because it is against competitivity and motivation. Let me say, that the market is not to be messed with so much or else there are serious consequences.

 

Also, I have noticed the U.S. going to communism. I tried to look up Yugioh Card Lounge "YCL" and ended up in the "Young Communist League". The US is reaching for economic solutions, but hasn't it learned from the mistakes of the past yet?

 

Sorry, didn't mean to necrobump.

[Dictator7]

There's one thing I know, the old Soviet Union is laughing there butts off at how much more communist we've become.

[Great Unclean One: VK]

There's one thing I know, the old Soviet Union is laughing there butts off at how much more communist we've become.

 

No.

 

We're currently heading towards Fascism.

 

The Soviets hated Fascists.

 

The only people who were more f***ed up then the Soviets.

[The Dark One]

The Soviets hated Fascists.

wut

 

No really though. They made a neutrality treaty with Germany and, IIR, Italy too.

 

You know, the fascist countries.

[Tentacruel]

Tbh, I'm against Communism, because of fear of what it might involve.

 

I leik freedomz.

[Dictator7]

No.

 

We're currently heading towards Fascism.

 

The Soviets hated Fascists.

 

The only people who were more f***ed up then the Soviets.

 

No, we are heading towards a communist economy but there will be no dictator. Fascism must have a dictator, if I am wrong please correct me.

[Dr. Cakey]

No, we should be heading towards a communist economy but there will be no dictator. Fascism must have a dictator, if I am wrong please correct me.

Fix'd.

[Flinsbon]

For all of you who keep mixing up fascism and communism, I say shame on you. They are completely different and, in fact, are on exact opposite sides of the political spectrum.

 

For all of you who need some clarification...

 

Fascism - type of government in which one person or small party is in complete control of the people's actions.

 

Communism - type of government in which one person or party is brought to power, makes some major decisions and organizes the people, then steps down. After stepping down, the people and their needs run the country.

 

In general, these two governments completely hate each other. The USSR signed a treaty with Germany because they didn't want to get involved in a war, but Hitler stabbed them in the back and attacked them, anyway.

 

2 types of people Hitler hated most - Jews and Communists.

 

As for the real question in this thread, is the country currently becoming communist? It's leaning slightly that way, but Democrats are shifted slightly to the side of communism and Republicans are shifted slightly towards fascism. Therefore, some legislation being passed is on the communist side because that's just the way Obama (as a Democrat) thinks. When a Republican is President, the legislation shifts the other way (towards fascism and away from communism).

 

So is the United States leaning towards communism? Yes. Will we ever become a Communist country? We would probably have to have 10 Democratic Presidents in a row, all with Democratic Houses, Senates, and Supreme Courts, plus at least one completely crazed "OMG we must become communist or die!" President at the end of the 40-year reign. Would the Republicans ever let that happen? Not in 5 billion years (which is the approximate remaining lifespan of the Sun, so it doesn't matter since at that point, the Sun will have cooked the Earth to a crisp and may very well have eaten it).

[Dictator7]

For all of you who keep mixing up fascism and communism, I say shame on you. They are completely different and, in fact, are on exact opposite sides of the political spectrum.

 

For all of you who need some clarification...

 

Fascism - type of government in which one person or small party is in complete control of the people's actions.

 

Communism - type of government in which one person or party is brought to power, makes some major decisions and organizes the people, then steps down. After stepping down, the people and their needs run the country.

 

In general, these two governments completely hate each other. The USSR signed a treaty with Germany because they didn't want to get involved in a war, but Hitler stabbed them in the back and attacked them, anyway.

 

2 types of people Hitler hated most - Jews and Communists.

 

As for the real question in this thread, is the country currently becoming communist? It's leaning slightly that way, but Democrats are shifted slightly to the side of communism and Republicans are shifted slightly towards fascism. Therefore, some legislation being passed is on the communist side because that's just the way Obama (as a Democrat) thinks. When a Republican is President, the legislation shifts the other way (towards fascism and away from communism).

 

So is the United States leaning towards communism? Yes. Will we ever become a Communist country? We would probably have to have 10 Democratic Presidents in a row, all with Democratic Houses, Senates, and Supreme Courts, plus at least one completely crazed "OMG we must become communist or die!" President at the end of the 40-year reign. Would the Republicans ever let that happen? Not in 5 billion years (which is the approximate remaining lifespan of the Sun, so it doesn't matter since at that point, the Sun will have cooked the Earth to a crisp and may very well have eaten it).

 

So I was right, thank you for clarifying.

[Luna Lovegood]

Communism is actually a great idea IN PRINCIPLE. The real problem is practice. People just weren't meant to have that much power.