~Emo~ Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 With thre right seasoning. Their fantastic =D I bet the carnivorous animals in the jungle are thinking the same about you. I like wolves and bats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeman The Master Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 well BR i think it is that we are human but animals nonetheless but the way we think calling a human an animal is calling someone barbaric or lower form of human its an insult to say that i think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkerai Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 most people think of them as food' date=' or... somthing not needed...............................HUMANS are not needed and are negative to the planet...[/quote'] In reality nothing is needed as everything is pointless and in the end means nothing...so scew the planet we got technology and comunication...animals(besides humans) are our competators in survival so just killing them all is just a bland victory instead it is much more fun to control them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazer Yoshi Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 I love animals. ^_^Mostly hanging out with them, though. :PI would never harm an animal, unless it was for food(which we all need) and if it was in so much pain, he needed to be put of it's misery.All animals are cool / cute / loyal(all 3) in their own way.Dogs, Cats, Hamsters, Snakes, Lizards, Racoons, Monkeys, and Goats are my favorite. =DAnimals are a hobby or lifestyle. They are both for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roturcer Izan Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 Animals are walking chicken/beef burgers without the bread. Still, I'm sure a snake could spell better then you, my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 I love animals (and loli manga, and corpses, and volkswagens). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omnimon8 Posted May 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 ok...animals keep us alive while we kill them... killing the planet aswell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amethyst Phoenix Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 We're not killing the god damn planet. Hunting etc keeps them from overpopulating. They overpopulate, and there won't be enough food for them all. Then, they'll all starve to death. Humans are animals, your reasoning is invalid. We're heterotrophs: we must consume other organisms to obtain our nutrients. The other animals do this as well. The planet is as much ours, as it is theirs. Technically, the PLANET isn't necessary and neither is life. The universe would keep going without earth. It doesn't matter if we're needed or not. We're here, it's our planet now, and we're keeping it. We're at the top of the food chain: the place all the other species would probably to kill to be at. Stop whining about nothing. The world goes on the way nature intended. Humans are part of nature. So stop posting your crap about how we're supposedly evil because we kill animals for food. Other animals do the same thing to the ones weaker than them. That's the way things are. It's not the nice peaceful bullshit that disney spoon feeds you when you're a kid. Get over it, because it's not changing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 @AP- Do you think we should start doing that to people we start to get too overpopulated like we are already? Part of me hopes Malthus was right on his theory- True, but who is using it more responsible the rest of the animal kingdom or us. I'd say everything bar us. They take what they need to survive, we create surplus and don't pass it on to those that need it. The rest of the animal kingdom adapt to their surroundings, we adapt it to fit us, not really all that responsible. This point doesn't apply to tribes.- We may be part of nature, but we're one of the most selfish organisms. - Not always at the top. There's stuff happy to eat us if given half a chance. We just need to remember our place, which I don't think we do, then we go OMG something ate a human. - Last point on yours totally agree. Dog eat dog world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Wolf Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 With thre right seasoning. Their fantastic =D I bet the carnivorous animals in the jungle are thinking the same about you. but carnivorous animals in the jungle will have to get past my 12gauge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrooge Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 I love and admire animals,because let's face it,we are weaklings. We adapt the enviroment to our needs instead of adapting our selves.A few of us could survive in an average temperature forest.While lifeforms (except some reptiles which require certain temperature for some functions) would propably adapt to it. A crocodile has an amazing jaw power and a super stomach acid. An ant can pick it's weight several times. A wolf has more 200 million cells used for scent and great adaptivity. Plants,which can't move,have survibed for hundreads of millions of years. But most importantly...the dinosaurs lived for more 100 millions of years while we completely ruined the planet in 150 years... Most lifeforms ceased to exist because of rapid changes. If we are so great...we cannot we survive like every other "stupid" animal?! Screw technology!!! We are FAIL!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amethyst Phoenix Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 I love and admire animals' date='because let's face it,we are weaklings. We adapt the enviroment to our needs instead of adapting our selves.A few of us could survive in an average temperature forest.While lifeforms (except some reptiles which require certain temperature for some functions) would propably adapt to it.[i'] Instead of changing ourselves we change the environment. That sounds like a much more advanced and powerful ability to be able to alter the world itself. It would be rather simple to alter ourselves. Point being, altering our surroundings is a more powerful force than adapting. If there was nuclear war, the 2 things that scientists believe would live are cockroaches (which can adapt to any environment) and humans (which can change the very environment itself). [/i] A crocodile has an amazing jaw power and a super stomach acid. We can build devices that have more power than an alligator's jaw. We don't need to eat things that they do, so why the hell would we need super stomach acid? If we need to dissolve something, we can use an even stronger acid to do it. An ant can pick it's weight several times. We don't have the ridiculous exponential lifting in relation to our weight, sure. This does not change the fact that we can lift things that an ant can't. If you're only going by how much we can lift in proportion to our body weight, then we have cranes etc that can lift things that weigh over a thousand times our body weight. Either way, ants lose. A wolf has more 200 million cells used for scent and great adaptivity. Quantity does not equal quality. We don't need to smell as well as wolves do, and we have technology to detect traces of substances on the same level as a wolf. Also, once again, Being able to change the world > Being able to change yourself. Plants,which can't move,have survibed for hundreads of millions of years. A plant does not equal an animal. Talk to me after you finish Biology. But most importantly...the dinosaurs lived for more 100 millions of years while we completely ruined the planet in 150 years... The dinosaurs got wtfpwned by a meteor or climate changes. The planet isn't ruined, cut the hippie bullshit that if we aren't sitting in a tranquil grove devoid of technology eating berries in the nude then the world will end. Most lifeforms ceased to exist because of rapid changes. Yet that hasn't happened to us yet. I wonder why..... If we are so great...we cannot we survive like every other "stupid" animal?! We have a better way of living. Go live in the woods with no technology and just your bare ass and see if you'd prefer living like a wild animal or our current lifestyle. Also, you can survive in the wild if you know survival skills. Screw technology!!! What are you doing on a computer then. Either get off the computer and stop using technology, or STFU and GTFO you stupid hypocrite >_> I am FAIL!!! Fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 Other Animals (other refering to Animals that are not human) are far more sensitive to nature than we are, they know Natures warnings better than we do. Which is why commonly they will escape when they know something is up. Sometimes I think the real smart humans are our ancestors, they know what real survival is like unlike us to day (bar those living on the edge). For all our technology people on Earth still starve, so what have we really achieved? We know more about the world around us, but what has this technology and our evolution done to the world? We have Poverty, Starvation, Greed, Corruption, I could go on. Our technology hasn't really solved anything, infact its made us worse. Also with Dinosaurs - Thank the Solar System, that there are planets and natural satellites that take the hits for Earth, and that Earth has developed the way it has. For our technology we will still die at the hands of a Meteor like the Dinosaurs if large enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amethyst Phoenix Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 Other Animals (other refering to Animals that are not human) are far more sensitive to nature than we are' date=' they know Natures warnings better than we do. Which is why commonly they will escape when they know something is up.[i'] Agreed [/i] Sometimes I think the real smart humans are our ancestors, they know what real survival is like unlike us to day (bar those living on the edge). For all our technology people on Earth still starve, so what have we really achieved? We know more about the world around us, but what has this technology and our evolution done to the world? We have Poverty, Starvation, Greed, Corruption, I could go on. Our technology hasn't really solved anything, infact its made us worse. We've traded hightened instincts for vast intelligence. Poverty and Starvation are a result of a dog eat dog world. Some rise above the others and claim the food and wealth for themselves. Same as other animals, except with wealth added. Many animals don't stop to help other creatures (sometimes even those of the same species) and mainly look out for themselves. As for corruption, I'm assuming you mean the way we backstab each other for our own gain etc? Magpies lay their eggs in other nests and then the chick kills the other bird's eggs. Many creatures use "underhanded" and "immoral" tactics to survive. Does it really make any difference whether the act was dictated by instinct or thought? Also with Dinosaurs - Thank the Solar System, that there are planets and natural satellites that take the hits for Earth, and that Earth has developed the way it has. For our technology we will still die at the hands of a Meteor like the Dinosaurs if large enough. True, the solar system does take hits for us. As ridiculous as the next sentence is going to sound, we could probably do it. If a large meteor was headed towards us, we would most likely see it beforehand via NASA's probes correct? So, when it enters the atmosphere, we simply fire our weapons of mass destruction at it and the resulting fragments. The end result would still be huge rocks falling from the sky, but it's better than having the planet obliterated. Plus, the majority of the meteor would incinerate going through the atmosphere. We would have to have an accurate prediction of when it would hit, as it would come in very fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrooge Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 We've traded hightened instincts for vast intelligence. Poverty and Starvation are a result of a dog eat dog world. Some rise above the others and claim the food and wealth for themselves. Same as other animals' date=' except with wealth added. Many animals don't stop to help other creatures (sometimes even those of the same species) and mainly look out for themselves. As for corruption, I'm assuming you mean the way we backstab each other for our own gain etc? Magpies lay their eggs in other nests and then the chick kills the other bird's eggs. Many creatures use "underhanded" and "immoral" tactics to survive. Does it really make any difference whether the act was dictated by instinct or thought? [/i'] I understand what you mean but I disagree,becauseother lifeforms which form communities(bees and ants are the best examples you can find out there) will not act like that.Sure,they may let a part of their community die for the sake of the of the whole (which is understandable) but will never "backstab" or harm each other.Shouldn't we humans,being superior to the rest of this planet when it comes to intelligence,help each other and live in a as-fair-as-possible community? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amethyst Phoenix Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 We've traded hightened instincts for vast intelligence. Poverty and Starvation are a result of a dog eat dog world. Some rise above the others and claim the food and wealth for themselves. Same as other animals' date=' except with wealth added. Many animals don't stop to help other creatures (sometimes even those of the same species) and mainly look out for themselves. As for corruption, I'm assuming you mean the way we backstab each other for our own gain etc? Magpies lay their eggs in other nests and then the chick kills the other bird's eggs. Many creatures use "underhanded" and "immoral" tactics to survive. Does it really make any difference whether the act was dictated by instinct or thought? [/i'] I understand what you mean but I disagree,becauseother lifeforms which form communities(bees and ants are the best examples you can find out there) will not act like that.Sure,they may let a part of their community die for the sake of the of the whole (which is understandable) but will never "backstab" or harm each other.Shouldn't we humans,being superior to the rest of this planet when it comes to intelligence,help each other and live in a as-fair-as-possible community? Female praying mantis decapitate the male after they use them for sex. Most varieties of male fish will eat their offspring. Betta fish rip eachother apart if they get the chance. Bigger alligators and some snakes will eat the smaller members of their species. Need I go on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrooge Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 We've traded hightened instincts for vast intelligence. Poverty and Starvation are a result of a dog eat dog world. Some rise above the others and claim the food and wealth for themselves. Same as other animals' date=' except with wealth added. Many animals don't stop to help other creatures (sometimes even those of the same species) and mainly look out for themselves. As for corruption, I'm assuming you mean the way we backstab each other for our own gain etc? Magpies lay their eggs in other nests and then the chick kills the other bird's eggs. Many creatures use "underhanded" and "immoral" tactics to survive. Does it really make any difference whether the act was dictated by instinct or thought? [/i'] I understand what you mean but I disagree,becauseother lifeforms which form communities(bees and ants are the best examples you can find out there) will not act like that.Sure,they may let a part of their community die for the sake of the of the whole (which is understandable) but will never "backstab" or harm each other.Shouldn't we humans,being superior to the rest of this planet when it comes to intelligence,help each other and live in a as-fair-as-possible community? Female praying mantis decapitate the male after they use them for sex. Most varieties of male fish will eat their offspring. Betta fish rip eachother apart if they get the chance. Bigger alligators and some snakes will eat the smaller members of their species. Need I go on? Yes,but those animals don't live in communities,but as individuals.The only occasions when a ant will be killed or eaten by other ants of the same colony is when it is heavily injured and thus cannot help the community any longer.The only way this ant can help it's community now is to be devoured. In other words,since we live in communities as well,we shouldn't harm each other either.That's what I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkerai Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 We've traded hightened instincts for vast intelligence. Poverty and Starvation are a result of a dog eat dog world. Some rise above the others and claim the food and wealth for themselves. Same as other animals' date=' except with wealth added. Many animals don't stop to help other creatures (sometimes even those of the same species) and mainly look out for themselves. As for corruption, I'm assuming you mean the way we backstab each other for our own gain etc? Magpies lay their eggs in other nests and then the chick kills the other bird's eggs. Many creatures use "underhanded" and "immoral" tactics to survive. Does it really make any difference whether the act was dictated by instinct or thought? [/i'] I understand what you mean but I disagree,becauseother lifeforms which form communities(bees and ants are the best examples you can find out there) will not act like that.Sure,they may let a part of their community die for the sake of the of the whole (which is understandable) but will never "backstab" or harm each other.Shouldn't we humans,being superior to the rest of this planet when it comes to intelligence,help each other and live in a as-fair-as-possible community? Female praying mantis decapitate the male after they use them for sex. Most varieties of male fish will eat their offspring. Betta fish rip eachother apart if they get the chance. Bigger alligators and some snakes will eat the smaller members of their species. Need I go on? Yes,but those animals don't live in communities,but as individuals.The only occasions when a ant will be killed or eaten by other ants of the same colony is when it is heavily injured and thus cannot help the community any longer.The only way this ant can help it's community now is to be devoured. In other words,since we live in communities as well,we shouldn't harm each other either.That's what I believe. So all the disabled should be eaten or killed? There is already an over abundance of compation between people today... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 @AP in response to my post.Humans have the ability to reason, and a conscience they know right and wrong. Animals only maintain loyalty to a mate (sometimes for a few months sometimes longer) to young (if they do at all, and only till they leave usually) and those within pack/herd (and with some species that is only until the Alpha is beaten). Animals act in there best interest in terms of survival because they know nothing else. Humans sometimes act in their best interests, sometimes in the best interests of others, we feel more for other humans than animals would for other animals. Also we've barely managed to blow a small hole in one, we're years off doing anything like that. @ Scrooge. Very good point on the ants, they act only in the best interest of their colony, same with Bees. If they have to die for it, so be it. @ AP: (top post)- Males to some species are not important to the females, they're just there to fertilizes the eggs. Another example for your point is the Black Widow Spider- Dog eat dog with animals, that's why some species of fish stay together in nursery pools to prevent being eaten by others and of their own kind. They're small enough, and to some animals food is food, also think of the removal of competition for food. Sometimes an animals worse enemy is from its own kind. @ Darkerai - Humans are not effected so much by disability we can live beyond it. For animals when survive is key, deadweight cannot be afforded. In a colony each member only lives for the role they were born for, if they cannot fufill this role, they're no use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omnimon8 Posted May 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 @AP in response to my post.Humans have the ability to reason' date=' and a conscience they know right and wrong. Animals only maintain loyalty to a mate (sometimes for a few months sometimes longer) to young (if they do at all, and only till they leave usually) and those within pack/herd (and with some species that is only until the Alpha is beaten). Animals act in there best interest in terms of survival because they know nothing else. Humans sometimes act in their best interests, sometimes in the best interests of others, we feel more for other humans than animals would for other animals. Also we've barely managed to blow a small hole in one, we're years off doing anything like that. @ Scrooge. Very good point on the ants, they act only in the best interest of their colony, same with Bees. If they have to die for it, so be it. @ AP: (top post)- Males to some species are not important to the females, they're just there to fertilizes the eggs. Another example for your point is the Black Widow Spider- Dog eat dog with animals, that's why some species of fish stay together in nursery pools to prevent being eaten by others and of their own kind. They're small enough, and to some animals food is food, also think of the removal of competition for food. Sometimes an animals worse enemy is from its own kind. @ Darkerai - Humans are not effected so much by disability we can live beyond it. For animals when survive is key, deadweight cannot be afforded. In a colony each member only lives for the role they were born for, if they cannot fufill this role, they're no use.[/quote'] true but we destroy the animals for our land etc. ... but we need them to survive... not many people realize this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrooge Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 true but we destroy the animals for our land etc. ... but we need them to survive... not many people realize this... Well the Earth's eco system must be balanced in order for us to survive(at least easily)and every species is part of that eco system...so yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 With thre right seasoning. Their fantastic =D damn right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Valentine Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 I eat animals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilsweaky Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Im Vegetarian and an aspiring Animal reform worker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakesh Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 I like most animals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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