Crow™ Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Since Roxas got the first Creator's discussion, let's discuss the better one:His art makes him look more awesome too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 [spoiler=IMO, I prefer the origional one]Aside from him requiring more cards(you can RoTA his 'Incarnate' form), his effect is actually more effective, since it isnt limited by Attribute. also, Dark Creator has a summoning condition. the origional one doesnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 You can pop this dude out when you're losing to still have a fighting chance. The original cant say the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xazeon Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 I thought this would be about Arceus. I guess it's better than the original. Works more for you because Blackwings are mostly DARK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow™ Posted June 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 I use this for some grave control. After a few removals, out comes DAD and my opponent says FFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUU--- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 ..........Anyone els notice that Dark Creator is basicly limited to 1 per field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow™ Posted June 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 ..........Anyone els notice that Dark Creator is basicly limited to 1 per field?Yes, but he makes it easier to play more monsters, especially in BWs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xazeon Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 What pack is he in? I might make a Blackwing deck if I get the cards :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazer Yoshi Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Dark Creator is good, but way Situational. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow™ Posted June 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 What pack is he in? I might make a Blackwing deck if I get the cards :?He's one of the Special Edition promos. Him and Allure (which you'll need too.) He's really easy to get now :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 ..........Anyone els notice that Dark Creator is basicly limited to 1 per field?Yes' date=' but he makes it easier to play more monsters, especially in BWs.[/quote'] So does the origional Creator..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow™ Posted June 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 ..........Anyone els notice that Dark Creator is basicly limited to 1 per field?Yes' date=' but he makes it easier to play more monsters, especially in BWs.[/quote'] So does the origional Creator.....2 Tributes and not dark.....not feelin' it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Sir Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 PoC loves this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 ..........Anyone els notice that Dark Creator is basicly limited to 1 per field?Yes' date=' but he makes it easier to play more monsters, especially in BWs.[/quote'] So does the origional Creator.....2 Tributes and not dark.....not feelin' it.... But the origional creator lets you have multiple copies of itself out at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow™ Posted June 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 ..........Anyone els notice that Dark Creator is basicly limited to 1 per field?Yes' date=' but he makes it easier to play more monsters, especially in BWs.[/quote'] So does the origional Creator.....2 Tributes and not dark.....not feelin' it.... But the origional creator lets you have multiple copies of itself out at once.This Creator makes DAD easier to summon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 It's too often a dead draw, that and if you manage to Summon this in BWs with a reasonable Graveyard to work with, chances are you've already made few too many misplays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow™ Posted June 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 if you manage to Summon this in BWs with a reasonable Graveyard to work with' date=' chances are you've already made few too many misplays.[/quote']With Torrential, Vortex and all that other stuff in the game, not really.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 if you manage to Summon this in BWs with a reasonable Graveyard to work with' date=' chances are you've already made few too many misplays.[/quote']With Torrential, Vortex and all that other stuff in the game, not really.. If your swarm's large enough to net you a Graveyard of 5 monsters that quickly, then your hand won't likely've included DAD AND The Dark Creator, so really you've just got The Dark Creator, which if they've gotten 5 monsters in your Graveyard that quickly, is just going to be overwhelmed by the advantage your opponent gained without really managing to do anything dangerous. If you've accumulated a number of Blackwings in your Graveyard over a period of time and manage to get this out, both you AND your opponent are at fault for not winning by then. With any duel involving BWs, the duel's won quickly. This doesn't necessarily mean the BWs won, it just means it was a quick duel. This is because of the nature of BWs in which they aggressively swarm the field, which puts all their eggs, mind the pun, in one basket. They lose the swarm, not much hope. When they don't lose the swarm, they win. This is why The Dark Creator's dangerous, it's because it takes up a card which could've been valuable to swarming the place and winning. If it's to make the best of a bad scenario, it's still bad because if BWs are in a bad scenario in which you have a loaded Grave, not cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 ..........Anyone els notice that Dark Creator is basicly limited to 1 per field?Yes' date=' but he makes it easier to play more monsters, especially in BWs.[/quote'] So does the origional Creator.....2 Tributes and not dark.....not feelin' it.... But the origional creator lets you have multiple copies of itself out at once.This Creator makes DAD easier to summon. True.But with Dark Creator, you have to use a deck that is more Dark Creator then DAD.Since, unlike DAD, you cant randomly splash 3 copies of Dark Creator into a deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow™ Posted June 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 if you manage to Summon this in BWs with a reasonable Graveyard to work with' date=' chances are you've already made few too many misplays.[/quote']With Torrential, Vortex and all that other stuff in the game, not really.. If your swarm's large enough to net you a Graveyard of 5 monsters that quickly, then your hand won't likely've included DAD AND The Dark Creator, so really you've just got The Dark Creator, which if they've gotten 5 monsters in your Graveyard that quickly, is just going to be overwhelmed by the advantage your opponent gained without really managing to do anything dangerous. If you've accumulated a number of Blackwings in your Graveyard over a period of time and manage to get this out, both you AND your opponent are at fault for not winning by then. With any duel involving BWs, the duel's won quickly. This doesn't necessarily mean the BWs won, it just means it was a quick duel. This is because of the nature of BWs in which they aggressively swarm the field, which puts all their eggs, mind the pun, in one basket. They lose the swarm, not much hope. When they don't lose the swarm, they win. This is why The Dark Creator's dangerous, it's because it takes up a card which could've been valuable to swarming the place and winning. If it's to make the best of a bad scenario, it's still bad because if BWs are in a bad scenario in which you have a loaded Grave, not cool.I know. I know how BWs work btw -.- . I'm saying Dark Creator does help in ways. I interchange him with Dark Nepthys (from my side). If I can't use this, it becomes Allure food.@ Arm, That's why you shouldn't run more than one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 if you manage to Summon this in BWs with a reasonable Graveyard to work with' date=' chances are you've already made few too many misplays.[/quote']With Torrential, Vortex and all that other stuff in the game, not really.. If your swarm's large enough to net you a Graveyard of 5 monsters that quickly, then your hand won't likely've included DAD AND The Dark Creator, so really you've just got The Dark Creator, which if they've gotten 5 monsters in your Graveyard that quickly, is just going to be overwhelmed by the advantage your opponent gained without really managing to do anything dangerous. If you've accumulated a number of Blackwings in your Graveyard over a period of time and manage to get this out, both you AND your opponent are at fault for not winning by then. With any duel involving BWs, the duel's won quickly. This doesn't necessarily mean the BWs won, it just means it was a quick duel. This is because of the nature of BWs in which they aggressively swarm the field, which puts all their eggs, mind the pun, in one basket. They lose the swarm, not much hope. When they don't lose the swarm, they win. This is why The Dark Creator's dangerous, it's because it takes up a card which could've been valuable to swarming the place and winning. If it's to make the best of a bad scenario, it's still bad because if BWs are in a bad scenario in which you have a loaded Grave, not cool. I know. I know how BWs work btw -.- . I'm saying Dark Creator does help in ways. Do you now? If you're playing anyone good, TDC will cause problems as a dead draw, and when you CAN pull it off, it's not good enough to make the comeback due to the Summoning conditions, which against anyone good'll have lost you the duel already in the process of fulfilling them. The Dark CreatorATK 2300/DEF 3000/DARK/Thunder/LV8Effect: LOL IF YOU'VE LOST THE GAME ALREADY YOU CAN SUMMON THIS AND BE QUITE A FEW PENNIES SHORT! HOWAVAR! IF YOU CANT SUMMON THIS YOU CANT SUMMON THIS AND TAKE AWAY FROM YER WIN CONDITION. How does the above card help you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 ...Trade-in fuel maybe? I dunno, I ran this and DLZ in a BW deck once. Didnt work half bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow™ Posted June 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Do you now?Yes, I know my Blackwings very well (more than you). From what I've play-tested, he works well, although I sub him out for Nepthys sometimes and it still works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 ...Trade-in fuel maybe? I dunno' date=' I ran this and DLZ in a BW deck once. Didnt work half bad[/quote'] Trade-In needs about 6 targets to work consistently enough to justify running it. Can occasionally be less when your Trade-In targets are searchable, but DLZ and TDC aren't, so yeah. That being said, if you've got 6 Trade-In targets in BWs, you're taking away far too much from your main focus and won't be winning duels.Do you now?Yes' date=' I know my Blackwings very well (more than you). [/quote'] Your posts aren't proving it. I still remember your original build containing Gravitic Orb and Block Attack. From what I've play-tested' date=' he works well, although I sub him out for Nepthys sometimes and it still works. [/quote'] That's supposed to convince me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow™ Posted June 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Your posts aren't proving it. I still remember your original build containing Gravitic Orb and Block Attack. WTF? I would NEVER use those! You must have mixed me up with someone else. Prove it now.My original: http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/thread-109988.html > I fail to see those cards. Want to try again? -_-And I also don't care about convincing you, I'm just saying what I run and that it works for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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