4th Dimension?

[PrometheusMFD]

ok this is how i think of the 4 dimentions' date=' dimention 1 parst, dimention 2 preasent, dimention 3 future, dimention 4 alternate or parallel dimention/s

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Past, present, and future and part of the 4th dimension. Alternate dimensions and timelines starts getting into the higher numbers.

 

Think of it as dots and lines.

The first is only line with length, but no width.

The second is a flay square with four sides, it has a length and width, but no depth.

The third is a cube with a length, width, and height as a culmination of the area that the squares pressed together make.

The fourth is simply the timeline in which the cube exists and all the changes it goes through.

 

No, alternate reality is part of the fourth dimension.

The first- a single point in existance

The Second-A circle

The Third-A Sphere

The Fourth-A sphere moving inside a sphere

 

The fourth is merely one timeline. The fifth is the possible branches of that timeline.

 

No, that isn't possible, as there is technically no such thing as a "line" in nature. The sphere is the perfect shape in nature, and as time moves "forward" there are alternate paths to take within the sphere.

Honestly, we can't start discussing this without discussing the concept of time as a "line". If it is a dimension, then it is a sphere, and there must be multiple movements within that sphere. It is only our perception of time that limits us to seemingly one direction, but this is dictated by our choices, which creates the area for the rest of the circle. Time for us can fly through the sphere, go the entire diameter, or zig zag in all directions.

And, as you increase in dimension, you add more measurement (location, height, width, depth, duration, possibility). You cannot make a "lesser" system with a "greater" measurement.

And possibility and duration are essentially the same thing, except possibility is dictated by action, where duration is dictated by speed.

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Your ideas are a mix of two fundamental theories that completely contradict one another.

You follow the basis of Euclidean space with your talk of a sphere but only in the basis of movement within an object such as the sphere.

The theory you are mixing it with, Minkowski space, is that which views time.

 

The sphere theory you obsess over, however, is nonsense. You cannot justify the use of what could be considered natural in dimensions past the third because these are abstract ideas unrelated to nature. For instance, there could be no such thing a circle in the second dimension if there was no line as the first dimension since a circle is merely a curved line that has the effects of width from the 2nd dimension that loops into itself and a sphere is the 3rd dimensional version of that curved line.

 

An alternate pathway within that same sphere in what you call the 4th dimension would eliminate all further dimensions completely. Rendering all possibilities of every possible dimension outcome into the 4th dimension which breaks all theories of dimensionality.

 

The references to the sphere as curves based on our choices doesn't make sense. If these choices are made within a single timeline that means that it does not deviate from the timeline but continues moving along that path unobstructed past the edge of the sphere, and then along that would emerge more paths that would lead to more paths. The concept of multiple choices falls under the 5th dimension of Minkowski space which completely contradicts the concept of a sphere inside a sphere.

 

The point at which you add dimensions to add measurement contradicts everything you say by listing location as the 1st, leaving only a dot. Then the 2nd as height which is only a line without any width to it, removing your theory of a 2nd dimensional circle. The 3rd as width would only just then make it a cirlce, causing the 3rd dimension to be 2D. Depth as the fourth would make it that the 4th is actually 3D shapes, which throws out all basis of dimensions. And that goes on and on through more contradictions.

 

And possiblity and duration are far from similar. A duration is merely what happens during a set time. A possibility is what could have happened within that set amount of time, which creates a branch that leads to actions outside what was measured during the first duration.

[PrometheusMFD]

Your ideas are a mix of two fundamental theories that completely contradict one another.

You follow the basis of Euclidean space with your talk of a sphere but only in the basis of movement within an object such as the sphere.

The theory you are mixing it with' date=' Minkowski space, is that which views time.

 

The sphere theory you obsess over, however, is nonsense. You cannot justify the use of what could be considered natural in dimensions past the third because these are abstract ideas unrelated to nature. For instance, there could be no such thing a circle in the second dimension if there was no line as the first dimension since a circle is merely a curved line that has the effects of width from the 2nd dimension that loops into itself and a sphere is the 3rd dimensional version of that curved line.

 

An alternate pathway within that same sphere in what you call the 4th dimension would eliminate all further dimensions completely. Rendering all possibilities of every possible dimension outcome into the 4th dimension which breaks all theories of dimensionality.

 

The references to the sphere as curves based on our choices doesn't make sense. If these choices are made within a single timeline that means that it does not deviate from the timeline but continues moving along that path unobstructed past the edge of the sphere, and then along that would emerge more paths that would lead to more paths. The concept of multiple choices falls under the 5th dimension of Minkowski space which completely contradicts the concept of a sphere inside a sphere.

 

The point at which you add dimensions to add measurement contradicts everything you say by listing location as the 1st, leaving only a dot. Then the 2nd as height which is only a line without any width to it, removing your theory of a 2nd dimensional circle. The 3rd as width would only just then make it a cirlce, causing the 3rd dimension to be 2D. Depth as the fourth would make it that the 4th is actually 3D shapes, which throws out all basis of dimensions. And that goes on and on through more contradictions.

 

And possiblity and duration are far from similar. A duration is merely what happens during a set time. A possibility is what could have happened within that set amount of time, which creates a branch that leads to actions outside what was measured during the first duration.

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Ah, but a point is merely a circle where all points on the diameter are the same. A circle isn't a line as much as it is a series of infinitely adjacent points in a shape that most efficiently covers area. A sphere is a circle based on h by w as well as a circle based on h by d.

 

And, since time is a natural occurrence, it is still subject to similar laws as mass and energy (affected by gravity, affected by speed, prefers spheres). And an alternate pathway doesn't necessarily eliminate all other possibilities. It is our perception of time that makes it seem like time is a series of events in a constant forward motion. In reality, the alternate outcomes still exist, but we cannot perceive them.

 

The sphere that is inside of the "Time Sphere" is Space. This is where the correlation between duration and possibility exists. Space contains action, and various actions have varied possibilities. These actions can move Space, or reality, in any direction in Time, but because time is inconsistent within itself, we do not perceive certain changes, such as ones that affect "previous events", as that moves our perceived space into a different part of time/possibility. What I am saying is, duration and possibility are two axis of one Sphere containing reality within it.

[problematica]

Ah' date=' but a point is merely a circle where all points on the diameter are the same. A circle isn't a line as much as it is a series of infinitely adjacent points in a shape that most efficiently covers area. A sphere is a circle based on h by w as well as a circle based on h by d.

 

And, since time is a natural occurrence, it is still subject to similar laws as mass and energy (affected by gravity, affected by speed, prefers spheres). And an alternate pathway doesn't necessarily eliminate all other possibilities. It is our perception of time that makes it seem like time is a series of events in a constant forward motion. In reality, the alternate outcomes still exist, but we cannot perceive them.

 

The sphere that is inside of the "Time Sphere" is Space. This is where the correlation between duration and possibility exists. Space contains action, and various actions have varied possibilities. These actions can move Space, or reality, in any direction in Time, but because time is inconsistent within itself, we do not perceive certain changes, such as ones that affect "previous events", as that moves our perceived space into a different part of time/possibility. What I am saying is, duration and possibility are two axis of one Sphere containing reality within it.

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A point in terms of dimensions is a single area that does not have either a width or a length that is used with other adjacent points to form a line or shape. But your idea that it instantly goes from something that has neither one of those into something in the second dimension with both breaks every theory of dimensions in which each dimension adds one measurement.

 

Time is a abstract, not a part of nature. It cannot be affected by gravity or energy. Being on land for 1 minute as compared to being underwater for the same amount of time has absolutely no affect on time at all; similar to how you cannot change time with energy or speed. You can only change what happens during that time, not time itself.

 

Time cannot circle back into a spherical shape because that would require not the choices made but the person themself to go back through time while maintaining their same life or vice versa. Time can only move forward, each possibility and timeline is a seperate branch that still moves forward.

 

This last paragraph does not make any sense. The beginning tells of multiple timelines, but then goes into science fiction. It is about time travel and the different possibilities that it can cause. The possibility of going back in time and causing changes is the only way to mix duration and possibility.

A duration is a measurement of everything that occurs within say a persons life. Now, if that person made a decision what is still being measured is the duration that he percieves and not the possibilities. There is no connection to these possibilities because another duration is formed by those other timelines with different choices, each of the same person have their own durations completely unrelated to the others. The only way for them to connect in some way, is for the original to go back in time to that decision and convince himself to make another choice. Then he will live with his alternate timeline self in which he is then observing the duration of another possibility that is not his own. This is because he is from a timeline in which another choice was made, therefor he cannot go back to his own time in which his own duration is that of one of his possibilities other than what he already had.