Frlf Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 This thread is sad.Even if god exist (lowercased for teh lulz), why should we care when we're alive?I'm Atheist. That doesn't mean I am a bad person. I still have feelings and morals.If I die, and god DOES exist, I wouldn't go to hell. Because I know I'm not a bad person.And all religions are the same in that way. Normal people cannot decide whether he exists or not, even if he had the proof, because the other group wouldn't believe, or be stubborn as hell. I'm Atheist because all logic goes against the existence of a God, and it makes more sense. Also, I don't want anyone to tell me how should I live my life. Its MY life, after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juuzou Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 This thread is sad.Even if god exist (lowercased for teh lulz)' date=' why should we care when we're alive?I'm Atheist. That doesn't mean I am a bad person. I still have feelings and morals.If I die, and god DOES exist, I wouldn't go to hell. Because I know I'm not a bad person.And all religions are the same in that way. Normal people cannot decide whether he exists or not, even if he had the proof, because the other group wouldn't believe, or be stubborn as hell. I'm Atheist because all logic goes against the existence of a God, and it makes more sense. Also, I don't want anyone to tell me how should I live my life. Its MY life, after all.[/quote'] i do not call atheists bad people. i simply ask them questions about their religion, and how they view it. i like to learn about all the cultures i find (excluding noob culture) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frlf Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 This thread is sad.Even if god exist (lowercased for teh lulz)' date=' why should we care when we're alive?I'm Atheist. That doesn't mean I am a bad person. I still have feelings and morals.If I die, and god DOES exist, I wouldn't go to hell. Because I know I'm not a bad person.And all religions are the same in that way. Normal people cannot decide whether he exists or not, even if he had the proof, because the other group wouldn't believe, or be stubborn as hell. I'm Atheist because all logic goes against the existence of a God, and it makes more sense. Also, I don't want anyone to tell me how should I live my life. Its MY life, after all.[/quote'] i do not call atheists bad people. i simply ask them questions about their religion, and how they view it. i like to learn about all the cultures i find (excluding noob culture) Most people do.''OMG he's an Atheist! He aproves abortions, gay marriages, and shiz!!111!'' It's true that some, as in every group, are full of themselves (I think because they overestimate the human power, and since they have no higher power to look up to, they see themselves are the true power.), but again, there are good ones, and there are these people in every religion group, or team, or any other social group. It doesn't matter the race, religion or bla bla bla... That's stereotype. And I don't know if I made sense in this post now that I re-read it <_>. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juuzou Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 This thread is sad.Even if god exist (lowercased for teh lulz)' date=' why should we care when we're alive?I'm Atheist. That doesn't mean I am a bad person. I still have feelings and morals.If I die, and god DOES exist, I wouldn't go to hell. Because I know I'm not a bad person.And all religions are the same in that way. Normal people cannot decide whether he exists or not, even if he had the proof, because the other group wouldn't believe, or be stubborn as hell. I'm Atheist because all logic goes against the existence of a God, and it makes more sense. Also, I don't want anyone to tell me how should I live my life. Its MY life, after all.[/quote'] i do not call atheists bad people. i simply ask them questions about their religion, and how they view it. i like to learn about all the cultures i find (excluding noob culture) Most people do.''OMG he's an Atheist! He aproves abortions, gay marriages, and shiz!!111!'' It's true that some, as in every group, are full of themselves (I think because they overestimate the human power, and since they have no higher power to look up to, they see themselves are the true power.), but again, there are good ones, and there are these people in every religion group, or team, or any other social group. It doesn't matter the race, religion or bla bla bla... That's stereotype. And I don't know if I made sense in this post now that I re-read it <_>. lol, i meant i like to see which stereotypes are true and which aren't. i also like to see opinions and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Supreme Gamesmaster Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 In truth' date=' God can only be proved as a Theory, it saddens me, as I am a Christian, but it is true. If we are to treat Evolution as a Theory and God as a Theory than we are to treat them both as religions. Religion is nothing but another Theory on our origins. Everyone holds different opinions on which one they think is true, but none, for this moment, can be proven.[/quote']WRONGReligion is nothing more than a tool to manipulate the masses and to justify innocent deaths.That's propaganda, my friend. Religion is what you believe in; you can't not have a religion. This thread is sad.Even if god exist (lowercased for teh lulz)' date=' why should we care when we're alive?I'm Atheist. That doesn't mean I am a bad person. I still have feelings and morals.If I die, and god DOES exist, I wouldn't go to hell. Because I know I'm not a bad person.And all religions are the same in that way. Normal people cannot decide whether he exists or not, even if he had the proof, because the other group wouldn't believe, or be stubborn as hell. I'm Atheist because all logic goes against the existence of a God, and it makes more sense. Also, I don't want anyone to tell me how should I live my life. Its MY life, after all.[/quote']This thread is not to debate the veracity of atheism or any other religion; it is to debate whether or not atheism is a religion in itself. Did anyone actually click the link of proof? It was never mentioned in discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frlf Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 This thread is not to debate the veracity of atheism or any other religion; it is to debate whether or not atheism is a religion in itself.It isn't.Agnosticism is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 dur its a religion because you BELIEVE in nothing happens when you die. Well I'll tell you what, you crap your pants when you die and then go to heaven, jews go to re-unite with david, and terrorists get beat up in hell by chuck norris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Sir Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 It takes just as much faith to be an Atheist as it does to be a Religious follower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Careless Whisper Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 ...if you truly do not have a religion' date=' than you are simply a secularist; you do not care if creationism is real or if evolution is real, you just live out your life.[/b'] A better term for this is "Agnostic." I believe that agnostics, (I speak for them because I am one) are of the few reasonable types of people. They take in the possibility that a higher being can either be real or fake. Although, most agnostics have different reasons for being what they are. My reason is because I have asked many of my Christian and Atheist friends this exact question."Why should we even care what made the Universe? What are we to gain by finding out?" I still have gotton no answer that can convince me if there really is a higher power, or if the belief of one is a hoax.Yes, this is one type of reasoning I respect. Although that you do not have an opinion it never harms your better judgment. I have noticed that many Agnostics are not judgmental and are respectful of all views.Agnostics are never judgemental because they have no reason to judge the beliefs of other religions. Why judge a possibility at the risk of believing an entire lie? Although, there are some agnostics who are judgemental and like to point out the flaws in every single religion other than their own. It takes just as much faith to be an Atheist as it does to be a Christian.Correction. Even an atheist is a religious follower, because anyone who has faith in what they believe (even if you believe there is no God) is technically a religious follower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prada Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 If I die' date=' and god DOES exist, I wouldn't go to hell. Because I know I'm not a bad person. [b']If God does exist, you will go to Hell, because you didn't believe in Him. =/ Not saying you will, just saying that's the belief. It has nothing to do with right or wrong.[/b] Normal people cannot decide whether he exists or not, even if he had the proof, because the other group wouldn't believe, or be stubborn as hell. True enough. I'm Atheist because all logic goes against the existence of a God, and it makes more sense. So how, in fact, were we created? Also, I don't want anyone to tell me how should I live my life. Its MY life, after all. He isn't forcing you to live your life a certain way. I believe in God, but I really don't follow his rules. I'm not a virgin, I cuss, I've smoked, watched porn, ETC. Seriously, I DON'T live my life the way God says. I do agree with you as far as stereotypes go. Saying Christians are bastards, or saying that an Atheist automatically approves of abortion or something is wrong. =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Atheists BELIEVE there is no God.Non-Religious (as Dorling Kindersley call it) people THINK there is no God. I'm an Atheist. Atheism is a Religion, of sorts. BUT, the "Theist Theory" is completly irrational. There is no absolute proven evidence whatsoever of a God-like being existing. EDIT: The first living creatures (Protocells) were either made during a Chemical Reaction caused by a Volcanic Eruption or (as TheHuaHuah said) made when light refracted of a Crystal, again causing a Chemical Reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Wow, no ****storm yet o_oAnyways.I've never really viewed atheism as a religion. Its a philosophy. You dont call idealism/existentialism/etc a religion.For a clearer explanation, white (or black depending on your point of view) isn't a color, but rather denotes a lackthereof. Thats the way I view it. Atheism/theism is based on faith, just as agnosticism/gnosticism is based on knowledge. Faith doesn't equate to religion. (Although you do need faith to be a part of a religion) On another note: People like Horus are the reason atheists are seen as so arrogant. Its kinda sad =/ (Deist here btw) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 To say that god does not exist is almost absurd, given the wonder of the world around us; the nature of consciousness in itself almost proves the existence of an energy beyond the normal scientific realm we surround ourselves in. Now, that's not to say that there was a painter of our brilliant universe, but there are many forces in it that guide it's ever changing landscapes, and it is isn't surefire that consciousness manifests simply from atoms. However, to say that any religion holds truths on the actuality of the world around us is just as much blasphemy; religions were founded by people, not by deities which just happen by some odd chance to be human in nature, think like humans, have committed actions like humans, etc.. It's just not a fair assumption; thinking that god is human justifies pride and ego satisfaction, so it really is just a selfish perspective, because no pride is justifiable. Atheism is not a religion. Religion implies believing in something. Atheist's don't believe in the likely imaginary deity of the western holy books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sunshine Jesse Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 *slow clap*Crab demolished just about everyone in this topic. Nice job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Sir Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 *slow clap*Crab demolished just about everyone in this topic. Nice job. *raises hand* Not me ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Careless Whisper Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 *slow clap*Crab demolished just about everyone in this topic. Nice job. *raises hand* Not me ;D Crab did not demolish anything. He just proved that the majority of this topic's replies came from hypocrites and members without much logic to back their beliefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeky leslie Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Atheism stems from a fear of not being at the "top" of everything. Can't be at the top if a God is in the way' date=' can you? It is narcissism.[/quote'] So atheism is a form of psychological disorder, then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juuzou Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 crab just failed me D= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bury the year Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 *passes out from 7 shots of alcohol* Crap... I thought Crab's sig said "shots", not "sips". Oh well, he still wins. Still, I say that all religion stems from the fact that we're scared of what's hidden in the dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jericho Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Atheism is the lack of theism. You cannot call the lack of theism a religion. Its a group of people. They don't follow any practices as an organized group like religions, nor do they worship or seek guidance from a deity. Calling atheism a religion is like calling the fanbase of a T.V. show a religious group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 *slow clap*Crab demolished just about everyone in this topic. Nice job. *raises hand* Not me ;D Crab did not demolish anything. He just proved that the majority of this topic's replies came from hypocrites and members without much logic to back their beliefs. He did' date=' however, support my posts and show how the anti-atheists were wrong. Therefore, the topic (atheism as an absolutist religion) was, in fact, demolished. Atheism is the lack of theism. You cannot call the lack of theism a religion. Its a group of people. They don't follow any practices as an organized group like religions, nor do they worship or seek guidance from a deity. Calling atheism a religion is like calling the fanbase of a T.V. show a religious group. A+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Atheism is not a religion, it's an institution of beliefs. Religion involves the worship of a deity, whereas atheism only demands that said deity be unacknowledged. Religion has some sort elaborate, bureaucratic system rooted deeply in politics, whereas atheism is just a bunch of guys. Religion mandates intricate rituals and proceedings, whereas atheists just don't give a crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Culpa Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Well, that title makes no sense. Atheism is not a system of beliefs that reveres a higher power. Atheism also does not believe that they will go to a different life after ours, whether it be reincarnation, heaven, etc. Atheism is not a religion. You and your link are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Well' date=' that title makes no sense. Atheism is not a system of beliefs that reveres a higher power. Atheism also does not believe that they will go to a different life after ours, whether it be reincarnation, heaven, etc. Atheism is not a religion. You and your link are wrong.[/quote'] orlybubsy? What's the definition of religion? a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects And atheism is the belief that there is no supreme being. Where is mah prize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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