Careless Whisper Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Well' date=' that title makes no sense. Atheism is not a system of beliefs that reveres a higher power. Atheism also does not believe that they will go to a different life after ours, whether it be reincarnation, heaven, etc. Atheism is not a religion. You and your link are wrong.[/quote'] orlybubsy? What's the definition of religion? a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects And atheism is the belief that there is no supreme being. Where is mah prize. You get nothing for your dictionary.com research. Now try interpretting Atheism without a dictionary. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Alright. A religion, to me, is when a group of people share the same belief, and try to make other people follow their belief, or convert them. Atheists believe in no supreme being. But religion does not mean you have to believe in a supreme being. In the paragraph above, I stated that a group of people shares the same belief. Me and my athiest friends are home to no religion, is what you are saying. But we have a belief. =\ Also, you can't interperet atheism. You can define it, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Careless Whisper Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Also' date=' you can't interperet atheism. You can define it, however.[/quote'] You can interpret any religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Can you explain to me what interpreting a religion means? Then maybe I can actually "interpret" Atheism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willieh Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Alright. A religion' date=' to me, is when a group of people share the same belief, and try to make other people follow their belief, or convert them. Atheists believe in no supreme being. But religion does not mean you have to believe in a supreme being. In the paragraph above, I stated that a group of people shares the same belief. Me and my athiest friends are home to no religion, is what you are saying. But we have a belief. =\ Also, you can't interperet atheism. You can define it, however.[/quote']I think you're confusing "creed" with "religion." Creed: any system of principles or beliefsReligion: an institution to express belief in a divine power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Alright. A religion' date=' to me, is when a group of people share the same belief, [b']and try to make other people follow their belief, or convert them.[/b] Yeah, your definition was pretty much objectively false right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Lord Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Religion is a set of organised beliefs which has a group of people collectively believing in the same thing, usually believing in a higher power such as God. You worship nature with around five other people and call yourselves anything you want and you've made a religion. Athieisim is arguably a religion for saying that (no offense) athieists are their own gods because their universe revolves around them. I really don't care which it is, because athieism isn't my belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 I'm just going to start an argument because it's 6 AM and I have nothing else to do. F-ck sleep. Atheism isn't a religion by any means; however, the fact that it is based on the study of the real world does not necessarily that it is the better belief system. I call it a belief system because you really can never say that anything is real. I could be the lucid dream of a troll on a higher plane for all I know, and I wouldn't know, and that's seems like a bit of farfetched lunacy, but it is entirely plausible. Prove me wrong. Since our entire lives are based on perspective, all of our views of "reality" are beliefs. There are no truths in the matter of objectivity, none that we can be certain of anyway. Given that, Atheism seems to be the worse of the two belief systems. A faithful member of any religious organization is happy with their faith and dedication to the Greater Being who protects their family and their soul. I think anyone would be pretty happy thinking that they have that kind of protection. An Atheist on the other hand gets to be part of a community of intellectuals who contemplate the world as if the physical realm has some value, decide and know the truth based on what they can physically and logically determine, and are forced to accept certain perspectives that seem realistic based on logical principle, i.e. fate (Determinism), inevitable death (rotting in the ground), inherent valuelessness of life (Nihilism) (although this can be sub'd with Existentialism). Since people can think rationally but come to two different conclusions (Nihilism/Existentialism), Atheism is also a lot more variable, and thus less secure. (Tear that sh-t up) If you can do that and be happy with it, all power to you. My personal experience with Atheism got to the point where I accepted the "truth," but eventually grew sick of it. I'd rather believe in a spiritual energy that exists beyond the mind than the lack of such a thing. I've meditated long enough and taken enough hallucinogens to actually feel that there is something inside of us beyond the mind itself. That's just the way I am though, so it's not too relevant to the topic at hand. I'm not saying that anyone is in the wrong for practicing Atheism; my point is really: Kramer; all you guys promoting the Atheist way of thought; Why should people view the world through lenses that would make them less happy, even if it is the lense of truth? The answer to that question, minus the "why," can be found in another question; and that question is: Would you like to know when and how you are going to die? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azmodius Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Yeah, I am an Atheist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Lord Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 Not anything to do with the topic, n00b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dweller of Parables Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 It's really funny when kids go "oh I am is atheist :P" and they don't really know what the frunk it is. >_> It's the "new trend" around here for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:YuGiOh Freak:. Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 I agree that atheism is just another religion. I know that I should not be proud but I myself am an atheist. I am the only one in my family. My family goes to church on Sunday, but I stay home because I don't believe in God. It is just what I believe in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jericho Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 I agree that atheism is just another religion. I know that I should not be proud but I myself am an atheist. I am the only one in my family. My family goes to church on Sunday' date=' but I stay home because I don't believe in God. It is just what I believe in.[/quote'] /retarded Its not what you believe in that make you an atheist. Its what you don't believe in. Therefor atheism is not a religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Atheism is not a faith. It is the rejection of faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0b3rt Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Actually, I think atheism would be better classified as the lack of belief in a deity.It's also the only "logical" choice in life, besides maybe agnosticism, as religion tends to take up quite a bit of time that you could have spent doing other things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 ' pid='2504442' dateline='1246902691']Atheism is not a faith. It is the rejection of faith.Actually, it still requires faith that all of said faiths are incorrect. It just requires logical faith rather then blind faith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jericho Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 ' pid='2504442' dateline='1246902691']Atheism is not a faith. It is the rejection of faith.Actually' date=' it still requires faith that all of said faiths are incorrect. It just requires logical faith rather then blind faith[/quote'] Logical faith is not faith. Logical faith, as you call it, is logical reasoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 ' pid='2504442' dateline='1246902691']Atheism is not a faith. It is the rejection of faith.Actually' date=' it still requires faith that all of said faiths are incorrect. It just requires logical faith rather then blind faith[/quote'] Logical faith is not faith. Logical faith, as you call it, is logical reasoning.Still requires faith that your reasoning is correct, and people can still use reasoning to determine that there's a godEdit: And religions can use logic to determine that they're right. (Although said logic is probably riddled with flaws) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Supreme Gamesmaster Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 The official definition of atheism is: the belief that God does not exist. You're missing the point, my friends, and confusing atheism with agnosticism. An agnostic rejects faith, while an atheist denies the existence of God, no matter the evidence to the contrary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 The official definition of atheism is: the belief that God does not exist. You're missing the point' date=' my friends, and confusing atheism with agnosticism. An agnostic rejects faith, while an atheist denies the existence of God, no matter the evidence to the contrary.No, not all atheists deny any evidence for God.Just the, uh, you know. Bad evidence. Like, uh, you know.All of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jericho Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 The official definition of atheism is: the belief that God does not exist. You're missing the point' date=' my friends, and confusing atheism with agnosticism. An agnostic rejects faith, while an atheist denies the existence of God, no matter the evidence to the contrary. What evidence is there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0b3rt Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 They didn't actually present any evidence as to god existing so much as trying to use Ad Hominem attacks on Atheists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboss144 Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 Ok guys, just wanted to ask this. Can atheists place a claim of "act of god" on their insurance??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Supreme Gamesmaster Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 @daboss: Yep.@Zarkus: Also, Catholics don't deny all attacks on God. Just the ones that don't completely disprove God's existence. Like, you know... all of them?@Jericho: I didn't say there was any. I'm saying that if there were, a real atheist would just ignore it. One who accepted the evidence would no longer be an atheist.I agree that atheism is just another religion. I know that I should not be proud but I myself am an atheist. I am the only one in my family. My family goes to church on Sunday' date=' but I stay home because I don't believe in God. It is just what I believe in.[/quote'] /retarded Its not what you believe in that make you an atheist. Its what you don't believe in. Therefor atheism is not a religion.You have to believe that God doesn't exist. It's not a matter of not believing in God; it's an unshakable belief that God doesn't exist, period.' pid='2504442' dateline='1246902691']Atheism is not a faith. It is the rejection of faith.That's agnosticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 The official definition of atheism is: the belief that God does not exist. You're missing the point' date=' my friends, and confusing atheism with agnosticism. An agnostic rejects faith, while an atheist denies the existence of God, no matter the evidence to the contrary. Since atheists thrive on reason, they would believe in God if there actually were some evidence to the contrary. However, unlike in the Flat E- oh, why am I repeating myself? I already explained all this in my first post in this topic, and can only assume that you lack the linguistic abilities to actually read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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