Earthbound Ojamortal! Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 or They should make Models of these. stick them to the cards, lol Yes i know its been Discussed before BUT it was old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 I liek dem both artwise. I'd ban them both, Overdragon because it would take two fair cards off the limit list, and Fortress dragon because his effect is stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YuugiCM Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 overdragon but i like fortress's art betta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:Incognito:. Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 fortress's better u could dna surgury with himand he's easier to summonover just blows up your own future fusion...then again there is overload fusionanyway I like fortress better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Both are bannable And while your at it, ban the whole Cyber Dragon archetype Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickle Me Emo Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Both are bannable And while your at it' date=' ban the whole Cyber Dragon archetype[/quote'] Cyber Dragon isnt bannable. Im to lazy to read Fortress Dragon so it might be bannable but the only reason CyDra is even limited is cause Chimeratech is so broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Both are bannable And while your at it' date=' ban the whole Cyber Dragon archetype[/quote'] Cyber Dragon isnt bannable. Im to lazy to read Fortress Dragon so it might be bannable but the only reason CyDra is even limited is cause Chimeratech is so broken. Well most of it anyways Cyber End Dragon - Promotes OTKs, abusable with MetamorphosisCyber Twin Dragon - Promotes OTKs, abusable with Metamorphosis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickle Me Emo Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 metamorphosis is also banned remember. Im not quite sure if its because of the CyDra archtype or not cause I wasnt around for its banning, but I know its banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 metamorphosis is also banned remember. Im not quite sure if its because of the CyDra archtype or not cause I wasnt around for its banning' date=' but I know its banned.[/quote'] But if there banned, obviously, cards such as Overload Fusion, Metamorphosis, will return Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysty Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 If all the Cyber Dragon fusions were banned, where could Cyber Dragon stand on the ban list?I still say it is still easily banworthy, but what do you guys think? As for the poll, CO is fun with Future Fusion and Overload Fusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:Incognito:. Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 As for the poll' date=' CO is fun with Future Fusion and Overload Fusion.[/quote'] do you mean and/or or and as in combo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickle Me Emo Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 metamorphosis is also banned remember. Im not quite sure if its because of the CyDra archtype or not cause I wasnt around for its banning' date=' but I know its banned.[/quote'] But if there banned, obviously, cards such as Overload Fusion, Metamorphosis, will return Again I cant say why metamorphosis was banned, nor can I say why Overload is limited. However I can assume Overload is limited cause of Chimeratech Overdragon and Metamorphosis, you claim, is banned due to Cyber Twin Dragon so yea I guess your right, the CyDra fusions should be banned, at least most of em. btw Mystery Guest if they are banned CyDra will be where it should be, at 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysty Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 As for the poll' date=' CO is fun with Future Fusion and Overload Fusion.[/quote'] do you mean and/or or and as in combo what I mean is Chimeratech has more combos is Fusion Summoned while CFD does not have this power but can instead be virtually Super Polymerized with slightly higher ATK power and doesn't blow up your field. Still, CO does have a 2 card OTK, which makes it epic, while CFD does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowferret Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Fortress Dragon doesn't need Poly. Or Overload. Or anything except a Cyber Dragon on the field. And Machines.Weaker effect, but easier to summon. Less losses from hand and/or field.I'd say Fortress... Simply 'Cause I can say "I'll send your Cyber Dragon and all those machines to summon my Fusion." ...wait, have they ruled on whether you hafta have the Cyber Dragon or not? It says "from either side of the field"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JG. Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Both can easily become lolATK beatsticks, but that's about it. And also OTK'able. I say ban both, and then get CyDra back up at 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Both are bannable And while your at it' date=' ban the whole Cyber Dragon archetype[/quote'] Cyber Dragon isnt bannable. Im to lazy to read Fortress Dragon so it might be bannable but the only reason CyDra is even limited is cause Chimeratech is so broken. Well most of it anyways Cyber End Dragon - Promotes OTKs, abusable with MetamorphosisCyber Twin Dragon - Promotes OTKs, abusable with Metamorphosis Cyber End would require you to run Metal Reflect Slime, Koitsu, [insert level 10 monster here], etc, for it to be an OTK. And even then, the set-up process would leave you vulnerable(w/e) to destruction of any of the key elements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Again I cant say why metamorphosis was banned I can' date=' it's because Konami was so blatantly terrified of Goat Control that they wiped all traces of it from the face of the earth, Limiting Scapegoat and Banning Thousand-Eyes Restrict (both fairly legit moves), but also took Metamorphosis out even after the real threat, Thousand-Eyes Restrict. The only real reasons for Metamorphosis to be out of the picture now are Cyber Twin and Cyber End, both deserve bans. btw Mystery Guest if they are banned CyDra will be where it should be, at 3 Cyber Dragon would still be Limitworthy even with its Fusions banned. It's a free 2100 ATK beatstick which rewards bad maintenance of field presence. I prefer CFD, since you can take out DSF with Cyber Dragon thanks to it. =) Overdragon's a little out of place nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Cyber Dragon, Cyber Twin Dragon, Cyber End Dragon, Chimeratech Overdragon, and Chimeratech Fortress Dragon should be at 0. I prefer Chimeratech Overdragon, but I don't really care for either of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowferret Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 I don't really get why Cyber Twin and Cyber End are considered banworthy...Sure, they're big, but it's not as if they're invulnerable to card effects or anything. They're just aggressive. And the Fusions aren't why Cyber Dragon is limited. Free Special Summon of a 2100 monster! Whoo!-_- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Star Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 I don't really get why Cyber Twin and Cyber End are considered banworthy...Sure' date=' they're big, but it's not as if they're invulnerable to card effects or anything. They're just aggressive. And the Fusions aren't why Cyber Dragon is limited. Free Special Summon of a 2100 monster! Whoo!-_-[/quote'] They're walking OTK's. Well, more like floating, because they don't have legs, so they can't walk, but...you get the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 For all the idiots who think Cydra should be at Three: Have you forgotten that Synchro Summons and Swarm still exist? Cyber Dragon being at 1 has NOTHING to do with Chimeratech, Cyber Twin or Cyber End Dragon, it has to do with his versatility, his non-archetype uses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickle Me Emo Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 For all the idiots who think Cydra should be at Three: Have you forgotten that Synchro Summons and Swarm still exist? Cyber Dragon being at 1 has NOTHING to do with Chimeratech' date=' Cyber Twin or Cyber End Dragon, it has to do with his versatility, his non-archetype uses.[/quote'] CyDra is a perfectly balanced card. Its a situational 2100 special summon and a lv 5. Sure it can help synchros but it still requires you to have no monsters and your opponent to have monsters. If you dont draw it in the first 2 or 3 turns you prolly dont have the hand count to go for a synchro due to the risk of Solemn, Bottomless, etc. You probably also dont have a tuner in hand at this point as well. Its perfectly balanced and should be at 3, however its fusions make it at 1 atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 For all the idiots who think Cydra should be at Three: Have you forgotten that Synchro Summons and Swarm still exist? Cyber Dragon being at 1 has NOTHING to do with Chimeratech' date=' Cyber Twin or Cyber End Dragon, it has to do with his versatility, his non-archetype uses.[/quote'] CyDra is a perfectly balanced card. Its a situational 2100 special summon and a lv 5. Sure it can help synchros but it still requires you to have no monsters and your opponent to have monsters. If you dont draw it in the first 2 or 3 turns you prolly dont have the hand count to go for a synchro due to the risk of Solemn, Bottomless, etc. You probably also dont have a tuner in hand at this point as well. Its perfectly balanced and should be at 3, however its fusions make it at 1 atm. *facepalm* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Void Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 For all the idiots who think Cydra should be at Three: Have you forgotten that Synchro Summons and Swarm still exist? Cyber Dragon being at 1 has NOTHING to do with Chimeratech' date=' Cyber Twin or Cyber End Dragon, it has to do with his versatility, his non-archetype uses.[/quote'] ^ This, I was reading through this thread wondering if anyone was going to say this or if I was going to have to. The only reason Cyber Dragon is Limited is due to the fact that it makes it possible to get out a higher level synchro out as early as your first turn if you go second. He just makes synchros FAR too easy to play, hell even easier than they already are. Notice that Cyber Dragon didn't hit Limited status until Synchros were a mechanic in the game. Which now makes me wonder how long it will be before Vice Dragon joins him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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