Azuh Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 [align=center] Promotes heaps of OTK's. I'm suprised AT ALL that one of these cards has not made the list at some point, but then again, I guess the OTK's it uses are easily counterable Discuss[/align] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:pyramid:. Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 these are not normally the reason for the loop, only a helper so why does it deserve the list attention? zombie master otk = cosr problemlumina otk=cosr the problemgiagplant otk= limiting giga would solve this, and would lead to the least reduction in the card pool i know their is more, however this card isnt the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 giagplant otk= limiting giga would solve this' date=' and would lead to the least reduction in the card pool[/quote'] Actually, competitive decks that don't use the loop might still need multiple Gigaplants.And honestly, I think Raptinus can be used very good, too. However, what do Cannon Soldier & Co offer to competitive play, excluding the loops? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:pyramid:. Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 giagplant otk= limiting giga would solve this' date=' and would lead to the least reduction in the card pool[/quote'] Actually, competitive decks that don't use the loop might still need multiple Gigaplants.And honestly, I think Raptinus can be used very good, too. However, what do Cannon Soldier & Co offer to competitive play, excluding the loops? thats bit like saying what does a lv 2 normal monster from lob give to the competitive game, should they be banned to??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 giagplant otk= limiting giga would solve this' date=' and would lead to the least reduction in the card pool[/quote'] Actually, competitive decks that don't use the loop might still need multiple Gigaplants.And honestly, I think Raptinus can be used very good, too. However, what do Cannon Soldier & Co offer to competitive play, excluding the loops? thats bit like saying what does a lv 2 normal monster from lob give to the competitive game, should they be banned to??? They don't promote OTKs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Gigaplant: Limit Giga. Simples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:pyramid:. Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 giagplant otk= limiting giga would solve this' date=' and would lead to the least reduction in the card pool[/quote'] Actually, competitive decks that don't use the loop might still need multiple Gigaplants.And honestly, I think Raptinus can be used very good, too. However, what do Cannon Soldier & Co offer to competitive play, excluding the loops? thats bit like saying what does a lv 2 normal monster from lob give to the competitive game, should they be banned to??? They don't promote OTKs. neither does cannon soldier, just because their is a loop in the game (interaction of the two same cards in most of the cannon soldier otks)that need to be taken away because firstly;1. that alows the mot cards to stay in the card pool2. mindless loops normally have more that 1 way to otk (the spell version of cannon soldier??) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 giagplant otk= limiting giga would solve this' date=' and would lead to the least reduction in the card pool[/quote'] Actually, competitive decks that don't use the loop might still need multiple Gigaplants.And honestly, I think Raptinus can be used very good, too. However, what do Cannon Soldier & Co offer to competitive play, excluding the loops? thats bit like saying what does a lv 2 normal monster from lob give to the competitive game, should they be banned to??? They don't promote OTKs. neither does cannon soldier, just because their is a loop in the game (interaction of the two same cards in most of the cannon soldier otks)that need to be taken away because firstly;1. that alows the mot cards to stay in the card pool2. mindless loops normally have more that 1 way to otk (the spell version of cannon soldier??) Actually, those two points are one and the same. And let me ask you this:Why should we solve a problem by banning/limiting 1 card, if banning more cards solves the problem better. Yes, I'm saying that Mass Driver can be banned as well. What competitive use does it have, except for the OTKs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 I <3 Cannon Soldier, and all related cards that have Cannon Soldier on the artwork. And TC, You forgot Cannon Soldier Mk2 D= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow™ Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Quillbolt + Imperial Iron Wall + This = Fun OTK.And TC' date=' You forgot Cannon Soldier Mk2 D=[/quote']There we go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Quillbolt + Imperial Iron Wall + A face-up Tuner + This = Fun OTK.Fixed* And TC' date=' You forgot Cannon Soldier Mk2 D=[/quote']There we go. Now that I look at it, Cannon MK-2 looks like its half of another robot.Since it's feet look like hands, and if you look at the torso, it has hinges underneith it. Meaning that the lower part of the body can swing upward and form a sort of torso-like shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Toon Cannon Soldier <3s Bubble Burn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GenzoTheHarpist Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 giagplant otk= limiting giga would solve this' date=' and would lead to the least reduction in the card pool[/quote'] Ah, but it wouldn't. Here's a version that works with just one Gigaplant. 1. FF, DM, get out Raptinus. 2. Summon Gigaplant 3. Bring back Blazewing 4. sack Giga for Mass driver 5. use blazewing to bring back Giga 6. Repeat steps 3-5 until you win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maliki Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 lol^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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