[DISC] Ally of Justice Catastor

[Tickle Me Emo]

This rips through both meta and non-meta.

 

I say ban it. Only DARKs are safe from it. They might be the most supported attribute' date=' but this is ridiculous.

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How does it "rip thought both meta and non-meta?

 

I love how you ignored me... does that mean Im right?

I didn’t see your post

 

Im callin this a broke card cause with its mass release its gonna force tons of decks to die out' date=' including Lightsworn and Gladiator Beasts. It single handedly rips through probably about 70% of all monsters in the game, if not more, without a sweat. That is definately NOT good for the game and deserves the banhammer.

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Are you forgetting the fact that we have crap loads of monster removal and both LS and GBs can use them. Plus the fact that Darks are immune makes him that much less bannable since they are the games main attribute and he is ease to run over.

So your saying a card that literally kills whole decks is good for the game cause it doesnt kill the most dominant type? so your support MORE dark support, like this crazy s***?

How does this kill whole decks? Sure they can’t destroy it in battle, but so what. There are several other avenues to take when dealing with monsters. The fact that it’s effect doesn’t work one Darks doesn’t make it dark support it makes it weak to them because now they can kill via battle him and seeing as how they are the most common attribute 99% of decks will have something in them to kill this via battle making him much less indestructible.

 

sure in this meta it can be blown up easily but in a better meta where not everything is destroyed by effects this is very bannable. However I will admit this meta is ruled by dark and destruction but that doesnt make this card any less banable. Heres a question for you, I have a lightsworn deck. How do I get over this besides Judgment Dragon? Nothings gonna last long enough to summon Celestia and Judgment Dragon is a broken card anyway. Now I have a Glad Beast deck. Unless I got a test tiger or Kitty to get tiger, there is no way over this thing since if its the only monster I cant attack into it and tag, no matter what I got on the field.

 

This card discourages many varieties of decks and limits the game to a select attribute or forces you to run more monster destruction or else your screwed once this comes onto your opponents field.

[BlueEyesShiningDragon4Z]

if this card is left as unlimited when mass released then Hopeless or DW might be are only real chance....pour LS

[Tickle Me Emo]

if this card is left as unlimited when mass released then Hopeless or DW might be are only real chance....pour LS

 

You forgot Black Wings and Kitty

[BlueEyesShiningDragon4Z]

if this card is left as unlimited when mass released then Hopeless or DW might be are only real chance....pour LS

 

You forgot Black Wings and Kitty

 

dam how i forget Black Wings?...as for kitty i dont see alot of that in my area so i dont know much about it.

 

Bow Down Before The Almighty Darks

[Flame Dragon]

This rips through both meta and non-meta.

 

I say ban it. Only DARKs are safe from it. They might be the most supported attribute' date=' but this is ridiculous.

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How does it "rip thought both meta and non-meta?

 

I love how you ignored me... does that mean Im right?

I didn’t see your post

 

Im callin this a broke card cause with its mass release its gonna force tons of decks to die out' date=' including Lightsworn and Gladiator Beasts. It single handedly rips through probably about 70% of all monsters in the game, if not more, without a sweat. That is definately NOT good for the game and deserves the banhammer.

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Are you forgetting the fact that we have crap loads of monster removal and both LS and GBs can use them. Plus the fact that Darks are immune makes him that much less bannable since they are the games main attribute and he is ease to run over.

So your saying a card that literally kills whole decks is good for the game cause it doesnt kill the most dominant type? so your support MORE dark support, like this crazy s***?

How does this kill whole decks? Sure they can’t destroy it in battle, but so what. There are several other avenues to take when dealing with monsters. The fact that it’s effect doesn’t work one Darks doesn’t make it dark support it makes it weak to them because now they can kill via battle him and seeing as how they are the most common attribute 99% of decks will have something in them to kill this via battle making him much less indestructible.

 

sure in this meta it can be blown up easily but in a better meta where not everything is destroyed by effects this is very bannable.

No, even their we have countless card that can do that.

However I will admit this meta is ruled by dark and destruction but that doesnt make this card any less banable.

I know that >_>

Heres a question for you, I have a lightsworn deck. How do I get over this besides Judgment Dragon? Nothings gonna last long enough to summon Celestia and Judgment Dragon is a broken card anyway.

Main deck a fair amount of monster destruction, or synchro. LS decks run 3 PSZ in a good meta making it VERY easy for them to get out a Brionac. Also even with that if you mill a Wolf via Charge or Foolish you can then summon Celestia. You could also set Ryko.

Now I have a Glad Beast deck. Unless I got a test tiger or Kitty to get tiger, there is no way over this thing since if its the only monster I cant attack into it and tag, no matter what I got on the field.

I summon a monster with +2100 ATK I just did the same thing.

This card discourages many varieties of decks and limits the game to a select attribute or forces you to run more monster destruction or else your screwed once this comes onto your opponents field.

I just summon a 3000 ATK point monster, you are screwed unless you draw monster destruction. That is all this is. The fact that he can't be run over only makes him the same as any large beatstick, only he isn't so large

[OrangePeel]

This rips through both meta and non-meta.

 

I say ban it. Only DARKs are safe from it. They might be the most supported attribute' date=' but this is ridiculous.

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How does it "rip thought both meta and non-meta?

 

I love how you ignored me... does that mean Im right?

I didn’t see your post

 

Im callin this a broke card cause with its mass release its gonna force tons of decks to die out' date=' including Lightsworn and Gladiator Beasts. It single handedly rips through probably about 70% of all monsters in the game, if not more, without a sweat. That is definately NOT good for the game and deserves the banhammer.

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Are you forgetting the fact that we have crap loads of monster removal and both LS and GBs can use them. Plus the fact that Darks are immune makes him that much less bannable since they are the games main attribute and he is ease to run over.

So your saying a card that literally kills whole decks is good for the game cause it doesnt kill the most dominant type? so your support MORE dark support, like this crazy s***?

How does this kill whole decks? Sure they can’t destroy it in battle, but so what. There are several other avenues to take when dealing with monsters. The fact that it’s effect doesn’t work one Darks doesn’t make it dark support it makes it weak to them because now they can kill via battle him and seeing as how they are the most common attribute 99% of decks will have something in them to kill this via battle making him much less indestructible.

 

sure in this meta it can be blown up easily but in a better meta where not everything is destroyed by effects this is very bannable.

No, even their we have countless card that can do that.

However I will admit this meta is ruled by dark and destruction but that doesnt make this card any less banable.

I know that >_>

Heres a question for you, I have a lightsworn deck. How do I get over this besides Judgment Dragon? Nothings gonna last long enough to summon Celestia and Judgment Dragon is a broken card anyway.

Main deck a fair amount of monster destruction, or synchro. LS decks run 3 PSZ in a good meta making it VERY easy for them to get out a Brionac. Also even with that if you mill a Wolf via Charge or Foolish you can then summon Celestia. You could also set Ryko.

Now I have a Glad Beast deck. Unless I got a test tiger or Kitty to get tiger, there is no way over this thing since if its the only monster I cant attack into it and tag, no matter what I got on the field.

I summon a monster with +2100 ATK I just did the same thing.

This card discourages many varieties of decks and limits the game to a select attribute or forces you to run more monster destruction or else your screwed once this comes onto your opponents field.

I just summon a 3000 ATK point monster, you are screwed unless you draw monster destruction. That is all this is. The fact that he can't be run over only makes him the same as any large beatstick, only he isn't so large

Wrong unless you have a dark you can't shrink it down to size to destroy it.

[Flame Dragon]

This rips through both meta and non-meta.

 

I say ban it. Only DARKs are safe from it. They might be the most supported attribute' date=' but this is ridiculous.

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How does it "rip thought both meta and non-meta?

 

I love how you ignored me... does that mean Im right?

I didn’t see your post

 

Im callin this a broke card cause with its mass release its gonna force tons of decks to die out' date=' including Lightsworn and Gladiator Beasts. It single handedly rips through probably about 70% of all monsters in the game, if not more, without a sweat. That is definately NOT good for the game and deserves the banhammer.

[/quote']

Are you forgetting the fact that we have crap loads of monster removal and both LS and GBs can use them. Plus the fact that Darks are immune makes him that much less bannable since they are the games main attribute and he is ease to run over.

So your saying a card that literally kills whole decks is good for the game cause it doesnt kill the most dominant type? so your support MORE dark support, like this crazy s***?

How does this kill whole decks? Sure they can’t destroy it in battle, but so what. There are several other avenues to take when dealing with monsters. The fact that it’s effect doesn’t work one Darks doesn’t make it dark support it makes it weak to them because now they can kill via battle him and seeing as how they are the most common attribute 99% of decks will have something in them to kill this via battle making him much less indestructible.

 

sure in this meta it can be blown up easily but in a better meta where not everything is destroyed by effects this is very bannable.

No, even their we have countless card that can do that.

However I will admit this meta is ruled by dark and destruction but that doesnt make this card any less banable.

I know that >_>

Heres a question for you, I have a lightsworn deck. How do I get over this besides Judgment Dragon? Nothings gonna last long enough to summon Celestia and Judgment Dragon is a broken card anyway.

Main deck a fair amount of monster destruction, or synchro. LS decks run 3 PSZ in a good meta making it VERY easy for them to get out a Brionac. Also even with that if you mill a Wolf via Charge or Foolish you can then summon Celestia. You could also set Ryko.

Now I have a Glad Beast deck. Unless I got a test tiger or Kitty to get tiger, there is no way over this thing since if its the only monster I cant attack into it and tag, no matter what I got on the field.

I summon a monster with +2100 ATK I just did the same thing.

This card discourages many varieties of decks and limits the game to a select attribute or forces you to run more monster destruction or else your screwed once this comes onto your opponents field.

I just summon a 3000 ATK point monster, you are screwed unless you draw monster destruction. That is all this is. The fact that he can't be run over only makes him the same as any large beatstick, only he isn't so large

Wrong unless you have a dark you can't shrink it down to size to destroy it.

If you shrink it it will have 1100 ATK and seeing as how most deck have a few darks, I'm willing to bet all of them would be able to destroy a monster that weak. Plus few decks run shrink

[Guest PikaPerson01]

I'm starting to wonder why people have Magical Android as a Extra Deck spashable. All it does in non-Psychic decks give you 600 each End Phase.

 

Because there are only 2 level 5 Synchros out in TCG, and the other one is terrible.

[DeathSDelano]

catasor's effect only works on face-up monsters

 

so say there is a lanyrith(cant spell) wall face-down

 

catasor attacks his effect does not activate because you don't know what its attribute is until after it has attacked it so catasor effect is no and void against face-downs

making you high def monsters put in face-down def safe for 1 turn

[tonisanoob]

finally an actual discussion!

 

i for one do not see this card to be broken, it is however very powerful but being level 5 this isnt going to hit the field very often is it?

most deck nowadays dont run many lv2 synchros, i havnt seen a krebons on the field for a long time now to be honest

all things considerd there is a lot of removal this day and age, this is really only a massive problem for lightsworn, untill they hit out jd, blackwings kitty and glads this will not be a problem for

 

so its a great synchro just not the best, we all know DSF is the best synchro :P

[Valkyrie Lupia Blitzer]

Personally' date=' I think banning or limiting it is just silly.

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explain

 

IIRC, we have enough craploads of monster destruction nowadays. >_>

 

catasor's effect only works on face-up monsters

 

so say there is a lanyrith(cant spell) wall face-down

 

catasor attacks his effect does not activate because you don't know what its attribute is until after it has attacked it so catasor effect is no and void against face-downs

making you high def monsters put in face-down def safe for 1 turn

 

Why the heck would anybody use Labyrinth Wall or, for that matter, Neo Aqua Madoor?

 

And also, it only delays the inevitable.

[DeathSDelano]

Personally' date=' I think banning or limiting it is just silly.

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explain

 

IIRC, we have enough craploads of monster destruction nowadays. >_>

 

catasor's effect only works on face-up monsters

 

so say there is a lanyrith(cant spell) wall face-down

 

catasor attacks his effect does not activate because you don't know what its attribute is until after it has attacked it so catasor effect is no and void against face-downs

making you high def monsters put in face-down def safe for 1 turn

 

Why the heck would anybody use Labyrinth Wall or' date=' for that matter, Neo Aqua Madoor?

 

And also, it only delays the inevitable.

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never said it had to be Labyrinth Wall it can be any monster with 2200 def or monster

and it can save you LP from the other monsters if they don't have enough ATK for a turn

and give you 1 turn to get some xD

[Light of Destruction]

I haven't seen Labyrinth Wall on the field since 1200 ATK monsters were considered good.

[werewolfjedi]

finally an actual discussion!

 

i for one do not see this card to be broken' date=' it is however very powerful but being level 5 this isnt going to hit the field very often is it?

most deck nowadays dont run many lv2 synchros, i havnt seen a krebons on the field for a long time now to be honest

all things considerd there is a lot of removal this day and age, this is really only a massive problem for lightsworn, untill they hit out jd, blackwings kitty and glads this will not be a problem for

 

so its a great synchro just not the best, we all know DSF is the best synchro :P

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and yet, castor has done more damage to me than dsf has on wco9.

 

but that's just because dsf isn't that effective against me in particular.

 

however with castor, there is much less I can do against him.

 

I mean, to all non-darks, this a a marshmellon with the power to attack and kill the monster before damage is dealt. it is not all that fair at all. the only monster I have that can do anything at all to him in battle that isn't dark is defender knight, and then I'll have to waste another card just to make it worth having the battle.

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

I'm starting to wonder why people have Magical Android as a Extra Deck spashable. All it does in non-Psychic decks give you 600 each End Phase.

 

Because there are only 2 level 5 Synchros out in TCG' date=' and the other one is terrible.

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Considering we're not including Catastor because it's still illegal, there's still Android, Junk Warrior, Cosmic Fortress Gol'gar and Gishilnodon, could be more but those're the ones I remember. Junk, Gol'Gar and Gishilnodon have their uses, though they restrict your Main Deck to rather hazardous choices considering today's Deck pool.

 

Android sees play because it's the only Level 5 other than Catastor that DOESN'T require specific material, and Catastor's still illegal, leaving Android as the only current generic Level 5. It also has 2400 ATK, which isn't bad at all, and Krebons and Commander still see enough play outside of Psychic Decks to have this gain more than 600 outside of Psychic Decks.

 

I'm not going to get in a balance argument because I'm too busy killing dragons to voice my thoughts and counter those of those who oppose mine.

[Xazeon]

It's Junk Synch-able, also. Junk Warrior <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< AOJ Catastor.

[Light of Destruction]

I <3 Junk Synchron.

[Blazen Lumenaze]

Isn't Catastor's effect nullable by Stardust? Along with Stardust we have Divine wrath, Solemn Judgement, Torrential Tribute, and Lightning Vortex. All of these cards are splashable, and with the exception of Divine Wrath, considered staples in a deck.

[Light of Destruction]

I dont think Stardust nulls it, since its before the damage step.

[Toffee.]

I dont think Stardust nulls it' date=' since its before the damage step.

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Actually, I think Stardust can negate it.

Stardust is only unable to do stuff like that, if it's part of a chain(like a mid-chain).

Or if its in the middle of the damage step.

Or if it's face-down[/obveious]

 

I dunno', I may have to look over the lolwiki page again.

[Eddie_Fudo]

also we have sakuretsu armor,hammer shot,fissure,botommless(my favorite) a lot of cards that can finish with catastor or unless stop its attack

[Manjoume Thunder]

also we have sakuretsu armor' date='hammer shot,[/b']fissure,botommless(my favorite) a lot of cards that can finish with catastor or unless stop its attack

 

lolycm

[Titanjon]

This card's price ranges is now: $100-$140.

[Tickle Me Emo]

goin back to the SDD thing, if you attack then as you before damage calculation he activates can you chain say shrink and thus hes chainlink 1 and shrink is chain link 2 and now SDD cant say "funk you Imma negate that sheet"?