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Believing in something that rewards you brings out the good in you.

 

I'll give you something many might understand, if someone of high authority at a tournament comes and says that the players who don't cheat at the tournament get this rare card then many won't cheat not because they all can't but mainly it's for the card that inspires them to do more good later on or they're genuinely good.

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Wouldn't this be a better topic for the debates board? Also, inb4 5 pages of what amounts to "no u"

Anyways, its a good thing for the people who have it because it helps them sleep at night.

Believing in something that rewards you brings out the good in you.

If you need to believe in something that rewards you to be a good person, then there's something seriously wrong with you.

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Believing in something that rewards you brings out the good in you.

 

I'll give you something many might understand' date=' if someone of high authority at a tournament comes and says that the players who don't cheat at the tournament get this rare card then many won't cheat not because they all can't but mainly it's for the card that inspires them to do more good later on or they're genuinely good.

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So, people with religious faith are good because they will be rewarded? Doesn't that sound extremely selfish?

 

Atheists don't believe in a reward. We don't need a reason to be good. We just are good.

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Believing in something that rewards you brings out the good in you.

 

I'll give you something many might understand' date=' if someone of high authority at a tournament comes and says that the players who don't cheat at the tournament get this rare card then many won't cheat not because they all can't but mainly it's for the card that inspires them to do more good later on or they're genuinely good.

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So, people with religious faith are good because they will be rewarded? Doesn't that sound extremely selfish?

 

Atheists don't believe in a reward. We don't need a reason to be good. We just are good.

 

Faith gives the weak and easily influenced people something to believe in. Some people will end up believing in a religion but forgetting what it actually means turning into idiotic zombies.

 

Atheists are mostly strong people, either those who are clever to have calculated and realized it's better to leave or stop believing in their religion. Therefore they don't need to believe in something and expect a reward to do good, we'll just do it because we want to.

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Why not just make the best of the life you have and not count on there being something after this?

 

That would be great!

 

Trouble is' date=' it rarely works that way.

 

Most religions, whether true or false, say for you to be kind to others etc. etc. And give you a reward if you succeed.

 

If you need to believe in something that rewards you to be a good person, then there's something seriously wrong with you.

 

You'd be amazed how many people have this thing 'wrong' with them. I know quite a few people who became religous later in life, became nice people, before they didn't really give a damn about what they did. You know, the whole drug, smoking, vandalise thing, as well as a rather depressed kid who also smoked and contemplated suicide (kinda odd to think religion made him stop, but yeah...). Then they became religous, they had a goal, and all of a sudden they did those little nice things, became giid kids, blah blah blah. A few names in there still irritate me sometimes...

 

No, it doesn't work that way for everyone, some people are just nice, others are religious nutjobs, massacres, religion wars, but it's amazing what the thought of an afterlife if they're good little boys and girls will do.

 

Yes, if people were just nice, no need for it. If they could make a goal of just making the best and doing good in the time they have, no problem. But is quite a few need an incentive. No offense meant to humanists, but if people are naturally born good, the upbringing must really stuff people over.

 

Religion isn't perfect, and those damn arguments made by religious nutjobs are irritating. but you'd be amazed at the people it keeps in line.

 

Also, the majority of people don't wish to die and become nonexistant, fear of the unknown and all that. Although from the look of things, the next generation may well get over this, guess we'll see in a few decades. But it makes people feel much better and safer, at peace at going in the grave, to get something more.

 

It is selfish, yet it gets people to help others for what may well be nothing. Weird, isn't it? Course, that isn't completely true, churches, christening etc. cost money. But it's a living, I suppose. Jobs can be hard to come by. And the less fortunate in most skill areas can take advantage.

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You're an atheist, we get it. Would you like a cookie?

 

You may now smugly smile to yourself and think you're superior because I'm being overly hostile while you're talking in what is intended to be perceived as a calm reasonable tone that makes everyone think you're correct.

 

And yes, I know you expected a response like this. Enjoy shaking your head at my supposed predictability.

 

 

Anyway, have fun on your quest to prove your superiority by making a ton of threads about how great atheism is that are filled with fail attempts at subtly bashing religion.

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Faith is a good thing if you want pillows next to your ears, cucumber peelings above your eyelids...

 

... otherwise, endless inquiry I prefer.

Believing in something that rewards you brings out the good in you.

 

... if I don't believe in something - ANYTHING' date=' then I'm a BAD BAD MAN?

 

And, yes, what do we make of those who discriminate against various peoples, and those who firebomb buildings, out of blind faith? Are they good people because they believe?[hr']

People have faith so they can have hope. This life sucks and it's nice thinking their is something more.

 

Wouldn't it be far nicer if they expend their energies making stuff happen' date=' instead of dreamin' 'em up?[hr']

You're an atheist' date=' we get it. Would you like a cookie?

 

You may now smugly smile to yourself and think you're superior because I'm being overly hostile while you're talking in what is intended to be perceived as a calm reasonable tone that makes everyone think you're correct.

 

And yes, I know you expected a response like this. Enjoy shaking your head at my supposed predictability.

 

 

Anyway, have fun on your quest to prove your superiority by making a ton of threads about how great atheism is that are filled with fail attempts at subtly bashing religion.

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You want us to lord over ye? Very well then.

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Believing in something that rewards you brings out the good in you.

 

I'll give you something many might understand' date=' if someone of high authority at a tournament comes and says that the players who don't cheat at the tournament get this rare card then many won't cheat not because they all can't but mainly it's for the card that inspires them to do more good later on or they're genuinely good.

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That just makes them greedy bastards.

 

Seriously, I bet if there was no heaven, no one would be religious.

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Seriously' date=' I bet if there was no heaven, no one would be religious.

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did that imply there is a heaven?

 

i admit that Christianity is very unrealistic, and may never be accepted by some people. but we all know what the real question is: who is going to make horus STFU

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Simply put, they did not have enough thought processes activated at the time they started believing in faith.

 

See, the sum of all actions have to do with you thought processes.

 

You can't have a effect with out a cause causing that effect to take effect.

 

A person with faith, has been affected to have faith, by causes taking effect to make him "want" to have faith.

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You're an atheist' date=' we get it. Would you like a cookie?

 

You may now smugly smile to yourself and think you're superior because I'm being overly hostile while you're talking in what is intended to be perceived as a calm reasonable tone that makes everyone think you're correct.

 

And yes, I know you expected a response like this. Enjoy shaking your head at my supposed predictability.

 

 

Anyway, have fun on your quest to prove your superiority by making a ton of threads about how great atheism is that are filled with fail attempts at subtly bashing religion.

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I'm just asking a question regarding faith. I'm sorry if you somehow turned it into an attack on religion.

 

Also, regarding your statement that I make 'tons' of threads about how great atheism is: I have not made a single one.

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Why not just make the best of the life you have and not count on there being something after this?

Most people do. But people find it nice to think there is something more

People have faith so they can have hope. This life sucks and it's nice thinking their is something more.

 

Wouldn't it be far nicer if they expend their energies making stuff happen' date=' instead of dreamin' 'em up?

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Who is to say they don't. People should make the most out of this life because it is the only guaranty, but again, it's comforting to think that when this life ends their will be more. Even if their isn't having faith makes people happy and their is nothing wrong with that.

 

 

Also I have no idea why this was locked. My guess is that it belongs in debates IDK. Whoever locked this please tell me why, untill then I don't see anything wrong with this thread.

 

Unlocked and moved to debates

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Weak-minded is quite harsh' date=' in return I could call you close-minded right?

 

For most it would be a consolidation and meaning thing.

 

 

It gives people something to fall back on and belong to.

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A close-minded person is one who refuses to examine evidence or consider options. I've done both in regards to religion and decided against being religious. Most religious people would look at evidence that does not support their religion and say, "What? This doesn't comply with the Bible!" and dismiss it entirely.

 

Weak-minded people are most usually close-minded, and most religious people have a close-minded attitude toward atheism and other religions.

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