「tea.leaf」 Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 [align=center] I'm pretty sure this lock works, guys.[/align] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowferret Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Even though it's to the opponent's side of the field, aren't you still summoning the Rose Tokens? And doesn't Jam Breeding Machine stop you from summoning at all?>_><_<Correct me if I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted September 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Even though it's to the opponent's side of the field' date=' aren't you still summoning the Rose Tokens? And doesn't Jam Breeding Machine stop you from summoning at all?>_><_<Correct me if I'm wrong.[/quote'] First, you're not Summoning monsters. Second, I don't think you are Summoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowferret Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 But... Black Garden says "halve its ATK, and Special Summon one 'Rose Token'"...I would think it's like Ojama Trio, where even though it's to the opponent's field, you're still considered the Summoner....I dunno. It's a Field Spell. Rulings on those confuse me.And if I'm wrong, my bad. ^_^' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho Shocker Android Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 your opponent can still perform his battle phase and go to MP2 you need great long nose and spear cretin for this to work. the lock is timeater + spear cretin + great long nose + (in grave) spear cretin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Timeater still needs more ATK IMOEDIT: Half of 1900 is still more then the Rose Tokens Its an interesting combo, but wouldnt Jam Breeding Machine kinda' slow the whole thing down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysty Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 [align=center] I'm pretty sure this lock works' date=' guys.[/i'][/align] Doesn't work. You summon all the Rose Tokens. Also, that would only lock the first Main Phase, but not the second one. You can only skip almost the entire turn if you skip both the Main Phase and the Battle Phase. That's where Great Long Nose comes in. Figure out a reliable lock around those two. In fact, why not throw Invader of Darkness in that lock as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Megacyber Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 You may Set monsters when you have this card active on your side of the field' date=' but you cannot Flip Summon them. You may Summon a monster and then activate this card on the same turn. [b']You cannot activate "Scapegoat" if you have this card active on your side of the field.[/b]If the effect of "Cyber Jar" is activated when you have this card active on your side of the field, monsters that you pick up which could normally be Summoned by the effect of "Cyber Jar" are destroyed instead. Other monsters, such as Level 5 and above monsters, and monsters that can only be Special Summoned, are still added to your hand. So, it doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 your opponent can still perform his battle phase and go to MP2 you need great long nose and spear cretin for this to work. the lock is timeater + spear cretin + great long nose + (in grave) spear cretin Yeah, because Timeater is so useful in combination with Great Long Nose, right? EDIT: . If you wonder what I edited, I removed the sarcasm out of this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just-duelist Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 dd scout or dd survivor + macro or plagy + wall= superior combo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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